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ben_vulpes: i watched some related lols play out with 'poly' friends this year. $girl couldn't bring herself to break it off with her wikipedia editor, $guy didn't offer the platform to which to jump or demand the jump, tension built and $girl doubled down on the socialistoid anxiety production machines to everyone's dismay
mircea_popescu: "i did 9k wikipedia spelling corrections this year" "you mean the year gaping as a hole in your employment history ?" "oh, that's not important. progress! revolution! everything is connected! ubi!"
mircea_popescu: all i'm sayin' is that as batshing insane as it may sound on the face, i have personal experience with the ample supply of "cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game".
mircea_popescu: well i mean how long's it gonna be.
ben_vulpes: may i have a concrete pointer s'il vous plait?
mircea_popescu: ah i did ? ok then. /me passes by reference.
ben_vulpes: doesn't strike me as a "needs" thing. will be a "can" thing for as long as mircea_popescu refrains from turning the lights on and setting +i or whichever arcane fleanode flag
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's the safe and easy space in between "i am a gentoo nerd and have an irc bouncer" and "i am willing to undertake gpg key mgmt as the basis of identity"
mircea_popescu: "who are you ?" "sorry i can't say because really i want to be a dragon and you'll laugh."
mircea_popescu: i have nfi when "i can't commit to existing" became socially acceptable. we used to laugh at the drones who couldn't commit to mariage 30 years ago, then i fell asleep in front of the silver screen post blowjob and i wake up... suddenly it's everywhere.
asciilifeform: ( tangentially -- i have nfi, to this day, why 'hi, i'm a lurker' needs to sit logged in. can read logs ! )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes at least re him i have some idea
asciilifeform: but i know 0 else about CompanionCube . or the other one, whose name escapes me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so far doing the whole "hey guise i can google plox like me" schtick which is getting on my nerves.
ben_vulpes: nope not i
asciilifeform: i certainly do not.
mircea_popescu: i lulzed. really ? how about DO NOT USE "SSL".
mircea_popescu: "How do I use SSL encryption properly?" "SSL (resp. TLS, as SSL v2/v3 is already broken but name SSL is commonly used for TLS protocol) implementation or protocol itself isn't affected"
ben_vulpes: god i hate this shit
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think I just got forgetful. Weather's been good for playing in dirt.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: chinese and other (e.g., south korean) bankers told a dude whom i believe in and who's paying me
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i can hardly picture how it could be any easier, iirc they already de facto own ~all real estate anywhere that is for sale
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> why the fuck would anyone deal with the sort of schmucks that do thjat in the first place, i have no idea. << sure you do, people just love easy-to-complete tasks that earn them an "everything's okay" signal from authority. even if that authority consists of a crayon-drawn badge paperclipped to dork's lapel @ supermarket exit.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would anyone deal with the sort of schmucks that do thjat in the first place, i have no idea.
asciilifeform: today - 'trb-i', ciphers of known strength, a few others.
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: this "oh, but mp, i'm interested in other things, i'm speshul" is more adlaism bullshit. THERE AREN'T OTHER THINGS.
asciilifeform: you start with alphabet. which i dun recall being taught here, either
asciilifeform: thread wasn't about 'which one gets into valhalla, maxwell or marconi', however. i specifically assert that n00bs ~learning~ from the thief -- whose achievement is essentially accidental, quite destructive overall to everybody else, and at any rate in no sense ~replicable~ -- vs from the maxwell - is the problem.
mircea_popescu: and i have every intention to credit everything to the first wot person to bring it up, not to the "originator". fuck him. should have had a wot.
asciilifeform: nor i
mircea_popescu: i am also not impressed with wozniak's teary stories.
mircea_popescu: what, you think i'm excusing him in my mind ? i'm not. fuck him.
asciilifeform: i thought thread was re: the age of the great pirates.
asciilifeform: hanbot: at one point i tried to unearth what rotinculos (other than a portmanteau, presumably, rotten arse) were , and gave up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the answer can be 'i was in the laboratory, creating the things that the scum later stole'
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there's right now all sorts of ~in their own mind~ important smart useful whatever folk. they're not in the wot, they don't exist, and this inexistence of theirs WILL COUNT AGAINST THEM
mircea_popescu: oh i misspelled it did i.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a man can be a navigator. a piece of dead wood -- is, whatever else it is, not a navigator. i did not think this would be controversial.
mircea_popescu: there is no "oh, i was busy with my dick" excuse to explain why couldn't find way out of paper bag.
mircea_popescu: i was simply saying, thr 50 that found the door are definitionally and for that reason alone better than all the others.
mircea_popescu: i was not proposing anything of the sorty.
asciilifeform: likewise i suspect that mircea_popescu's (or, say, mark twain's) positive view of 'good con men' is also 'fata morgana', mirage, con men is not necessarily a 'force of will' ubermensch, he is every bit a creature of the times and the opportunity, the rat crevice in which he finds himself, as is any clinton.
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i will say pirate, for all his warts, dpb, fucktarded ustard teen as he was, and the whole rest of the menagerie are better people than pick your pick. obama. hillary. nuland. whatever 5k dickless drones are sitting around wash dc offices reading this now. all of everyone
mircea_popescu: no, no, i mean on what do you base this assertion.
asciilifeform: now this i do not know.
mircea_popescu: it was a painful and sad process, being disabused of the notion that average human is capable to tribune (ie, maintain law, complicated discussion i won't go into) via the rota experiment AND the notion that average human is capable to praetor (ie, administer resoruces) via the whole bitcoin finance/investment/profits/etc thing.
asciilifeform: this is why, when reading about the early (1st 3 or so yrs) bitcoin landscape, i found it hard to feel any sympathy for the scamola victims
asciilifeform: the quoted text is hilarious per se : if i say 'invest in this High Thrust antigrav engine, with Extremely Low Energy Cost energy intake' -- everyone will laugh. but if mr.suavetalker offers a 'High Yield Pass Through ... in the EXTREMELY LOW RISK group' financial instrument, greedy idiots jump over one another to buy,buy
asciilifeform: very quietly. i dun recall any discussion of this. or maybe it was before i tuned in.
asciilifeform: ( i have nfi why )
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski's arithmetic. i did not massage it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643576 << and let me guess, i'm supposed to expose this incredibly rare and expensive resource for the benefit of the redditard peons, who don't want to pay for it but DO want to make random claims because hey, gotta make a claim to exist and research of any description is way above their pay grade ? ☝︎
Framedragger: ah. yeah i concede/agree.
trinque: Framedragger: I'm disputing that business partnership is definitionally "purchased honesty"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 13:09 mircea_popescu: oh since i'm thinking about it : there's two specific items tmsr wants to bring to the field of probate reform : a) no juridical person beneficiary. no government, ngo, corporation, trust etc may obtain as much as a farthing from any succession. physical persons only. b) no tax or fee of any kind may be levied against succession.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dunno if this is obvious or not, we don't have multi-man keys of any sort at s.nsa
Framedragger: trinque: i was being facetious. you're right of course
a111: Logged on 2015-12-27 17:38 asciilifeform: 'It is about sending a strong message. I think we may need to start an accreditation scheme for Bitcoin-consensus compliant wallets and services. Through code signing and use of multisig, we can even distinguish transactions made by compliant wallets and non-compliant wallets, and have pools not mine them (or wallets refuse to send to known-non-compliant wallets).'
trinque: I don't think that's an honest interpretation
Framedragger: re. purchased honesty, well i dunno, two business partners entering business arrangement.. that's a thing that happens (cue mp "as we have seen, it doesn't! so can't ever!1")
Framedragger: nono, i agree.
Framedragger: heh re. latter, i'm sure there is ("pay my family suicide-money after my death")
Framedragger: boy do i abuse this channel
Framedragger: trinque: asciilifeform: i did naively 'assume' that one could think of an arrangement when 2-of-2 or similar signature scheme would be 'safe'.
Framedragger: anyway, i won't argue further.
Framedragger: i can think of couple of approaches but i agree that they are not zero-in-cost, so, meh, i concede
mircea_popescu: i think the concept carries irrespective.
Framedragger: but i see the point, low profit.
mircea_popescu: i;ve not been following, guessing based on the alf provided number above.
mircea_popescu: this "i'm not paying for the drinks and not having better ones is irresponsible" thing only goes so far.
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
mircea_popescu: i guess tis possible.
mircea_popescu: i skimmed.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643440 << yep, turns out I pebkac'd, series of misunderstandings of how sendmany worked. got a tx out with double fee (0.0002), which still wasn't enough, so I've now double-spent that tx with a 0.0005 fee. ☝︎
mod6: fg advanced test update: i've collected about 500Mb so far. ~half way there.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Last updated at block 461176. << is that like 3 days ago ? << i think trinque's node was down for repair for that wallet thing. might be behind a bit. not sure tho...
mod6: I don't think it needs to be announced otherwise. Just my way of tribute for my folks.
mod6: <+CompanionCube> unfortunately I can't read romanian. << i used to translate trilema from .ro for, a long while before it was ever written in english.
CompanionCube: unfortunately I can't read romanian.
asciilifeform: i suppose dc is 'functional' then!11
asciilifeform: i'd naively imagine they would 'excommunicate' these
asciilifeform: cop 'a': 'your caller is janet. she wants to discuss... strange things with you. she says she saw strobe lights in her neighbour's house, and that he is communicating with her via... electromagnetic fields.' cop 'b' : 'yes i'm familiar with her'
mircea_popescu: the variety of wasps they have here is staggering. i got TWO kinds nesting, one's a perfectly harmless paper wasp, they eat the polen off a vine growing ion the fence. the other's a mud hut building guy, i think he eats spiders. then a third really fearsome type showed up evidently praying on the first type... then later a fourth super tiny kind was discovered when one fell in my drink....
mircea_popescu: i haven't yet seen one. or i think i might've seen one, that may also have been a misidentified wasp
mod6: I had my revenge though.
mod6: i just killed the first ones of the year, last weekend. which is pretty insane for Minnesota to have mosquitos /already/.
asciilifeform: ( http://trilema.com/2013/and-then-i-said-to-him-jimmy << oblig!! )
ben_vulpes: i grew up on prayer rugs quite like it
asciilifeform: nonymous identities. When I first talked to him, I made a new anonymous identity, and then when he got to Hong Kong, I switched. And when he left Hong Kong, I switched again.”'
asciilifeform: 'From the start, he said, their communication was flawed. Snowden had initially forgotten to provide his own PGP key, which meant that Micah’s reply couldn’t be encrypted. “Everything wasn’t perfect,” Micah said, recalling such missteps. “But there was no red flag, and I’ve gotten lots of emails from random anonymous people. I did pretty well, considering that I had no idea what the hell was going on. I kept switching a
asciilifeform: re usg.'journalists' 'helping' snowdens, e.g., 'If you want to set up a secure way to communicate (which I think every journalist should) the best method is IM with an OTR encryption. You’ll need: a Jabber account, Pidgin IM client, and OTR plug-in.'
asciilifeform: mod6: i have a bog-standard geiger here in toolbox
asciilifeform: very soon i will have with what to pick up the beta.
lobbes: I offer my condolences, as well mod6.
Framedragger: (i'm angry with nubbins for upsetting the discourse back then, even tho i wasn't involved at all. shit like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-08#1426930 ; he's of a different kind entirely cf. kako in my mind.) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: i skim.