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BingoBoingo: The OpenBSD saved by MP got roughly 15x the views the Counterparties link did. The two slashdots were a valuable experiment in seeing the crowd's view of Bitcoin
as magic savior of geeks versus a functional tool for use.
benkay: the current trend in behavior is to just toss your two cents in
as you read through the logs, directed at the people making interesting comments
BingoBoingo: Next step might be running open Genera in a VM
as your primary operating system and depreciating the *nix things
benkay: maybe not, though. i did a complete 180 on my personal image over the past four months
as our firm has gained traction.
joecool: mircea_popescu: i figured you'd say
as much, it does seem trivial though to echo a string into the device before key generation, have it set a default counter to 3, and require that same string to be passed to the device in order to activate signing function
bitcoinpete: from citizen: "Canadian Bitcoins is the latest bitcoin exchange to be successfully targeted by thieves. Japanese Mt. Gox was forced out of business last month after hackers successfully infiltrated the exchanges’ security and stole
as much
as $468 million US worth of bitcoin." karpeles is a hacker now?
antephialtic: Thailand is quite cheap, yes. Lots of security people there
as well
antephialtic: indeed.
as long
as the price is not obscene, I am willing to pay for convenience without sacrificing security.
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: let this be a lesson (not to you, but to us) on the importance of using techniques such
as merge avoidance, coinjoin & coinswap.
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: do you find it curious that they were willing to accept BTC addresses
as identification?
mircea_popescu: novusordo there are people who consider themselves into various technical fields, such
as buildingh
dexX7: alts are great
as testbed
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire
as an investment
Shakespeare: "SecondMarket Inc. is racing to open up a private bitcoin investment fund to ordinary investors
as soon
as the fourth quarter, potentially beating a rival offering by two investors best known for their lawsuit against Facebook Inc. FB -1.37% chief executive Mark Zuckerberg."
Shakespeare: but in
as much
as what copyright really is
mircea_popescu: is this the same one
as before or a totally different identical one ?
benderp: or
as I say to my staunchly little-d democratic friends "everything is born, matures, ossifies and dies. governments are no different."
Ghaleon: yes, much
as among humans, it is the cowards we must watch for.. not the brave ones
mircea_popescu: at the time bitcoin didn't look
as big
as it does today. iirc it was ~2-5 bux per or somesuch
Neil: Lol, "
as well
as his account statements"
mircea_popescu: it's true that reptiles are great hunters. it's false that they're uber hunting machines
as the kid imagines them
mircea_popescu: it could just... yoiu know... sorta suck, sorta limp along
as best it can...
jurov: was that 17 lines? guess i'm sending 0.17btc
as donation then
jurov: tl;dr: 25k linux servers used
as botnet, access gained using stolen passwords
ninjashogun: so rather than raise a traditional angel round of investment, you directly pay for the users, who "know" they are the product, to upload. Having 10,000 senior, lead, etc, technical profiles, is worth a substantial amount for the company,
as well
as enabling b2b deals etc.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I find some of what you have said useful. I wouldn't adopt the tone of enlightening a stone-age man,
as I have a lot of experience in several areas that also make my background interesting. we can simply have a conversation you know :)
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, you oculdn't determine exactly what the micro does with any amount of money short of a multimilion dollar lab, but if you make reasonable assumptions (such
as commodity components not being a highly engineered replacement) you can verify its operation for <$100 in equipment.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, because he could not patent it to protect his R&D research into it. It's a somewhat tough problem due to the very very fine sizes involved, and also the need to have a very low cost of goods if oyu are going to sell it
as a plastic cafrd. There's no model that I can think of that would support this.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, for example mircea_popescu could probably build a physical card that is a "lukewarm wallet"
as you put it, he would have the funds, but I don't think he could get his R&D investment back - it would be money thrown away.
joecool: Apocalyptic:
as much
as BFL is
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I meant it (obviously)
as a metaphor. Chip'n'pin works totally differently on a fundamnetal architectural level, from a card with a magnetic stripe.
ninjashogun: I think that's a very good idea, moiety, and if you targeted the chip'n'pin form factor (looks like a card) sold with a networked home reader, you could sell them
as a plug-in solution to merchants. I'm not 100% sure how card processing works, but it may be possible to piggy-back on that system and let merchants use it
as though it were card, meanwhile the back-end processor (your company?) or an intermediate networked de
moiety: speaking of nerd sex, karpeles actually once tweeted about how being a nerd in japan was much better
as he had talked a japanese chick into marrying him lol
ninjashogun: moiety - the reason for leftovers is because you might want to buy something else
as well? People generally exchange more currency than they will immediately spend, and keep the change to spend on other things.
ninjashogun: Oh....if in all the above you guys meant "you're not going to explain bitcoin Qua Investment to a newbie, and then get them to buy bitcoin" then that's probably true :). I wasn't thinking of it
as an investment just then.
moiety: i mean
as in, what would be the point in having leftovers if you were only buying it to buy something else
ninjashogun: deadweasel - fair enough, but I was just addressing "ninjashogun, no one buys bitcoin to buy things" - though to be fair ThickAsThieves probably meant to say that
as a generalization, which is true.
ninjashogun: ThickAsThieves, I mean I get what you're saying about investors/speculators - but it has actual users of it
as currency
as well.
ninjashogun: Normal users, for reasons we can appreciate, would then proceed to buy bitcoins if they had something they wanted to buy in bitcoins. (And only then.) This is currency working
as it should.
ninjashogun: so
as soon
as people starting talking about "Buying things with bitcoin" then it's pretty obvious how it works.
ninjashogun: deadweasel, so if you were to say, "I bought $100 with my bicycle" it would -
as you point out - sound like incoherent ramblings. It should be written, "I SOLD my bike for $100".
ThickAsThieves: in this way i think it's unwise to use normal cash wallets
as the intro to noobs
FabianB: andd germany is still more cash than credit cards
as well
ninjashogun: I mean
as an analogy for a physical wallet with cash in it.
ninjashogun: But this is true with a wallet
as well. When you hand someone cash you don't expect to be able to unhand them that cash.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, so if someone were to create something idiots could (actually) use then it would be (for them)
as thought only it existed. Apple often does this and practically claims competing technology doesn't even exist.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, so for their purposes, it might
as well not exist. For example, for the purposes of most people in the world, bitcoin doesn't actually exist (theyu can't buy it at a western union currency exchange, or know how to install software for it.)
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, wouldn't your embedded device be used at some point
as an offline wallet that you can connect?
ninjashogun: so if you could make it so dumb that the user just thinks of it "
as a wallet" with "bitcoins in it" and takes it out to spend from it.
ThickAsThieves: right but havent things become more about cutting costs
as time passes?
ninjashogun: davout - that is a fairer example. Their backwards compatibility is a 'debt' because they are actually taking it on
as a commitment. It's clearly a slightly lower debt than they would have if they had a goal of creating a real operating system like Unix and BSD's
moiety: jesus you are seriously gonna use windows
as an example here?
mircea_popescu: Perlboy it's a complicated matter. nz people weren't nearly
as obnoxious, but anyway.
benderp: mircea_popescu: more credence accrues every day to the notion that consumer organizations accepting bitcoin only do so
as they begin to circle the drain.
mircea_popescu: "Based on the toxic and self righteous writing style, i'm pretty sure it's him. He would never admit it though,
as the account has always made fun of anyone calling it a man."
dexX7: wow.. some people can turn everything into fud: "If you have ownership of BTC-denominated securities such
as those traded on Havelock or MPEx (such
as NEOBEE, S.DICE, S.MPOE, etc.) now would be a good time to talk to a lawyer."
BingoBoingo: I still can't believe Illinois did not invite me to their hearing on Virtual currencies
as an honored distinguished guest, and that news of it happening didn't even reach me until it is two hours too late to start driving and make it on time.
mircea_popescu: BCB
As the wolly-haired Melanasians of Papua, New Guinea once said, (Makes a series of clicking and popping sounds)
thestringpuller: infinity is not finite, it's unreachable someone might
as well physically deliver you a printer
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: you ever get your mp-
as-hitler portrait sorted after?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there's no sauch thing
as poor wording in a contracxt.
mircea_popescu:
as a result their contracts say exactly what they mean : LMB is responsible for any havelock theft etc
mircea_popescu: "This is shocking, because nobody in the world has ever seen a penis before. Life
as we know it will never be the same."
nubbins`: "For this bet to resolve
as YES, 30-day VWAP of S.MG must be above 0.0002 on MPEx on October 1, 2014." << thoughts? seem simple enough?
Shakespeare: they send snailmail to clients all the time
as what appears to be a renewal bill
Shakespeare: "The Fed has been targeting a 6.5% unemployment rate
as a gauge to start discussing when to raise interest rates. But several Fed officials have said they don’t find the jobless rate reference useful now that the rate, at 6.7% in February, is near the 6.5% threshold."
nubbins`: it'd be prudent to try restoring these keys on another machine,
as well
nubbins`: nod. no idea where it's stored right now, but export spits it out
as plaintext
Shakespeare: well
as i understand it, most SEC investigations are a reaction
Shakespeare: "A senior attorney at SEC headquarters in Washington admitted he sometimes spent
as much
as eight hours viewing pornography from his office computer, according to the report. The attorney’s computer ran out of space for the downloaded images, so he started storing them on CDs and DVDs that he stored in his office."
nubbins`: HeySteve: /msg gribble help eregister is
as good a place
as any to stary
mircea_popescu: that's nice, but this is a public channel and it is logged,
as per the topic.