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tg2: anwyay, read up, if you choose to invest in it, or mine it, I think it has merit as a coin, in stark comparison to every other piece of garbage that was forked in the last 3 months
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe ship Manuls with Cardanos as a physical security enchancement?
mircea_popescu: half as compared to what.
tg2: a nice uptrend as people realize the merit of the coin
mircea_popescu: as far as i recall, about a week before disappearing, nefario froze goat'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linked to me once, a few years ago, describing as 'the moldbug of computing.' not sure if complement or curse.
asciilifeform: rithm: understand 'breathe vacuum' as 'steal enough for a plane ticket and move to afghanistan'
mircea_popescu: also known as http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=90
mircea_popescu: the kid could run as is
bitcoinpete: i tried it as well. lasted about 2 weeks
mircea_popescu: "We accept most international and local credit and debit cards as well as PayPal. Flattr use Euro as its base currency, but it doesn’t matter what currency you use, we take care of the exchange."
ThickAsThieves: "Male university students in North Korea must get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, reports say."
pankkake: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2014/02/fail-faster.html It is rare for a startup to admit it isn’t going to work out, and give some cash back to investors. […] A great application of prediction markets is to give better and clearer warnings of upcoming failure, to enable better mitigation, such as quitting.
dhenson: I agree TaT it seems shady to me as well... especially if AM ends up not mining anymore.
mircea_popescu: there's no consensus of what makes a better language, other than edge cases such as ergativity
gribble: English As She Is Spoke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_As_She_Is_Spoke>; English as she is spoke by Pedro Carolino and José da Fonseca ...: <http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/30411>; English As She Is Spoke vs. Babelfish!: <http://www.zompist.com/spoke.html>
asciilifeform: ;;google english as she is spoke
asciilifeform: 'english as she is spoke'
asciilifeform: VanCleef: same poll as 'bedbugs have higher approval rating than senate,' etc.
benkay: a toss up as to which is better value: likely worthless paper vs. entertaining gizmo
BingoBoingo: padishah_emperor: Maybe choose a side here? http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
mircea_popescu: you may actually force him over a threshold, with results so far out of proportion he might as well just shoot you and bury you in hudson river.
mircea_popescu: suppose you work as an accountant, with six others.
asciilifeform: you are theoretically welcome to keep your pay in gold, or cement, so long as the tax was paid
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla> <ThickAsThieves> i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that /// only in the broad sense, i wouldnt personally find that "worth doing" in my own values of what my time is worth
kakobrekla: <ThickAsThieves> i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that
ThickAsThieves: i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party
mircea_popescu: what's toxic is, as always, plastic.
ozbot: How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-have-fun-as-an-intelligent-person/#comment-98711 << today i learned someone's been actually doing something pretty close to the whole google-bitbet thing
Mats_cd03: universities should just offer 'ripping off government acquisitions managers' as a degree and be done with it
BingoBoingo: I was manic as hell that weekend
nubbins`: i say give him the silver as well as the gold
ozbot: How can Bitcoin be taxed as property, but regulated as money? It's time for a class action lawsuit.
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21dgu7/how_can_bitcoin_be_taxed_as_property_but/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, that may be usefull as I turn my notes into a post.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ended up misreading as 'Depresaurii'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Derpasaurii as a construction necessitation clarifying relations between herp and derp
BingoBoingo: I forgot how long the Vircurex Dossier was, so in the interim enjoy: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/25/the-curious-case-of-vircurex-part-one-try-to-imagine-the-instrumental-theme-for-the-terminator-playing-in-your-head-as-you-read/
VanCleef: IRS Declares Bitcoin Is Property and Must Be Taxed As Such.....?
asciilifeform: (can you imagine the word 'batman' being remembered as something else?)
benkay: 'statistics' aside, "Jones found that people in their thirties contributed about 40 percent of the innovations, and those in their forties about 30 percent. People over 50 were responsible for 14 percent, the same share as the twentysomethings. Those under the age of 19 were responsible for exactly nothing."
mircea_popescu: i can;t for the life of me figure how exactly russia taking crimea disqualifies it as an industrialised country.
asciilifeform: 'from entomological interest only', as russians say
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for most of the testees having to eat asparagus prolly qualifies as cruel and unusual.
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody picked on "hey, one address per transaction has its issues as a model" as a result, either.
moiety: asciilifeform: i have a manul as my profile pic now
BingoBoingo: Kraken has been toxic almost as long as vircurex, haven't they?
mircea_popescu: on the off chance anyone here was silly enough to have btc there, prolly a good idea to get them out asap, this looks as awful as it getds.
adolf_fishler: wierd as shit but i love it
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre i dunno, do you see BingoBoingo as <BingoBoingo> or <BingoBoing> ?
nubbins`: ...as i fail to find the link
nubbins`: resulting in such situations as this:
nubbins`: i read "9x% sold out" and i translate as "we're having a hard time getting rid of these shit coins!"
mircea_popescu: "Daca eram un canibal si te prindeam cu o urata te luam la pula-n scurt baga-mi-as pula-n ea de strimba."
nubbins`: aha, i figured as much
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide
pankkake: people accept anyone's friendship in linkedin. I always get recruiters as shortest paths, it's useless :(
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, pankkake, i can mark as 10 someone with whom i only do 0.001 trades, inasmuch as i judge that i can 100% describe them to whoever asks
pankkake: no, I just take them as trust
ninjashogun: as to whether something is an investment contract is a fact-specific analysis. \p The Division of Trading and Markets "
mircea_popescu: as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, the ideal situation is to have everything penetrated by people like kenna.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On the planet where the rectothermal is repackaged as a fashionable relaxation on par with massage and enemas here.
asciilifeform: '“I think this is going to create a huge opportunity for hosted wallets,” says Jered Kenna, a bitcoin entrepreneur and the CEO of Moneyandtech.com. He believes that the smart bitcoin wallet makers will simply be able to add this as a service, tracking the capital gains and losses as you spend your bitcoins through the year, and maybe even issuing you a convenient 1099 at the end of the year.'
mike_c: that's weak. it does measurements for you. i guess timezones aren't as popular
asciilifeform pictures some wretch, perhaps in india, employed as a human gribble.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can remember i always used tos as toilet paper and never suffered for it.
diametric: mircea_popescu: i didn't sell gold, but i did other things that caused them to actually track down my place of employment via linkedin and try to have my fired. I should actually state it wasn't Blizzard. Blizzard was not bad about it, it was the brass as Activision.
gribble: Nick 'diametric', with hostmask 'diametric!~diametric@2604:3400:dc1:43:216:3eff:fe27:bf9d', is identified as user 'diametric', with GPG key id BDD47433133081CF, key fingerprint 0789CB4F508B384EB74CEFBFBDD47433133081CF, and bitcoin address None
diametric: though after they banned me I was very tempted to rape their policies in as many ways as I could.
mircea_popescu: my friend freud says that since you said it just as i was going to bed, clearly it's the case.
mircea_popescu: and my response invariably comes back as "tough".
mircea_popescu: bounce i used it as a metaphor for a guy who says "you do what i tell you or i kill you" and then proceeds to stick to his word.
mircea_popescu: so might as well try something else.
mircea_popescu: as in, well, this application will require a start-over anyway
asciilifeform: bounce: as described in my piece, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=231
mircea_popescu: bounce also known as "plenty of people in the us cannot drive"
asciilifeform: msdos was in some very real sense 'soviet' - as in, all the known joys, but a kid can build explosive xxxx at his parents' dacha without being harassed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is sucvh a thing as idiocy through absence.
asciilifeform: much of what people think of as 'dark age' of apple corp. took place without herr jobs
mircea_popescu: i'll readily grant that it didn't operate in any kind of free market in the 90s. but your statement was as of product
asciilifeform: mike_c: by that token, we should look up to 1990s russian mob as business teachers. 'take contract on creditor when cheaper than paying back loan', rectothermal cryptoanalysis, the joys.
mircea_popescu: just another way of not being dumb as rocks, as it were.
mircea_popescu: should have a bet as to wehen the first bitcoin corp makes the top
jurov: yeah, google tends to support common good such as... public transport ? :DDD
bounce: greece is a shambles, but so far hasn't been too good for the eu economy as a whole. how would turkey have been different?
mircea_popescu: as an english buffer of sorts.
asciilifeform: bounce: perhaps you know how long it lives as 'vegetable', on european loans / shared tech / refraining from zapping
bounce: the US found new enemies to fight, as it is wont to do
asciilifeform: ght run as follows: Today we've got a friendship evening with shit-eaters', or Today we're having some shit-eaters to dinner. Prepare a suitable menu'.' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with te
asciilifeform: business as usual
ThickAsThieves: "Google's new cloud storage prices are as low as $0.026 per gigabyte as a flat rate, far below Amazon's lowest offering of $0.037 per gigabyte, which kicks in if you're holding terabytes of data in the AWS cloud."
mircea_popescu: specifically : people who are already defeated take into consideration nonsense such as "oh but the feds have a 9x% conviction rate" as a ready-made excuse to settle.
ThickAsThieves: it's also an absurd degree of taxation: say i buy a Walmart Gift Card with btc, i should pay sales tax, gains tax, then the seller reports profit and is taxed, revenue used to pay employees is taxed. then you tack on the accounting burden on both sides, plus the seller's burden as tax collector
asciilifeform: my guess is that no serious effort will be made to actually collect the tax. rather, it will be used as a scourge against folks who need to be 'lettre de cachet'-d.
asciilifeform: i think everyone here is aware of the practical difference btween btc and cement. but the bureaucrats aren't - or will pretend, at any rate, for as long as it remains possible
bounce: well, as long as they steal the tax obligation with it, I suppose I can live with it
mircea_popescu: in neither case a representation is made as to transfer of title, which makes blizzard's ip assertions irrelevant.