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assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:42:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263954 << 188.68.240.159 is also online, running pressed stator.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:36:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263952 << understand, there's no hardware solution to this problem. you may make the probability less, but the only path to certainty is checking.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 19:55:05; shinohai: https://j.ludost.net/blog/archives/2015/09/05/rfc-2631_fips_186-3_and_openssls_implementation_of_dsa_appear_broken_and_possibly_backdoored/index.html
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:27:29; mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00541072 * 15000
shinohai: Ironically mircea_popescu, the hashbang guys wanted me to come to San Fran and work lol
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 00:33:21; Bingo_VACAY: Juriv seriously consider raising coinbr fees
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/04/mozilla_firefox_bugzilla_leak/
assbot: RFC-2631, fips 186-3 and openssl's implementation of DSAappear broken (and possibly backdoored) | ___ ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZR59A )
mircea_popescu: https://j.ludost.net/blog/archives/2015/09/05/rfc-2631_fips_186-3_and_openssls_implementation_of_dsa_appear_broken_and_possibly_backdoored/index.html << this probably needs a repost. via shinohai
punkman: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/countries-difficult-visas-travel/403267/?single_page=true
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu done
pete_dushenski: !up refferedbyloper_
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:26:48; mircea_popescu: so wait, what happened here is i just profited 3 btc off this guy's backup failure ?!
btcdrak: funkenstein_
trinque: mircea_popescu: can vote however she likes; that's just a different chick
trinque: mircea_popescu: nah, she's got a few screws loose and doesn't see fit to let me handle 'em with a screwdriver
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ you might misjudge your can on that score.
punkman: funkenstein_: inevitably
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 04:42:06; mircea_popescu: must kill because can.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 18:41:35; kakobrekla: lets turn this around, what _can_ you do?
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 18:25:54; ben_vulpes: and just as certainly leave you complaining that things never get done unless you do them yourself.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:03:46; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263876 << dude this guy, https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11849818_393733814153193_1214647642_n.jpg https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11849818_393733814153193_1214647642_n.jpg
trinque: funkenstein_: my point was that you are seeing value in people who could not defend themselves. seems to me that's a prerequisite of being valuable in any other way.
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman this approach is fundamentally at odds with the "lord over a domain" concept of software development prevalent here. << myeah, last attempt didn't work out too well, and I'd rather make my yearly sysadmining allotment shrink than grow
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: unless you already have dark market connex, you might have to wait for mircea_popescu/trinque's new buy/sell board ;) ☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: k
trinque: mircea_popescu: very easy to implement.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 http://trilema.com/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/#selection-99.19-103.20
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: what do you mean by this? "he can "win" 315 mn, but he sure as fuck may not turn that into 1mn turkeys."
punkman: mircea_popescu: sure, but can't sysadmin the box it lives on (and don't want to fight ddos other than making application cache better and whatnot)
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 to my eyes this is more a failure of western society than of whittaker himself.
punkman: mircea_popescu: orphaned is not the right word there, consider that if the last two patches in your V set create two branches, you can't choose a branch. V will try to apply both and doesn't check filehashes during the patching process.
BingoBoingo: !up ufoinc__
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 17:05:49; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: btw i find it interesting that nobody has yet noticed that 1) broken chains 2) orphaned subchains of any length whatsoever --- do not work
punkman: anton_osika's ETH contract
punkman: mircea_popescu: just curious if this clause "and that ETH trades on a reputable exchange in total value of at least 100 BTC prior to the date of delivery" would be fulfilled by Poloniex, Kraken or any other exchange listed at http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#markets
anton_osika: And again, my physical embodiment is openly registered, if you are in the neighbourhood mircea_popescu. And I might not be as dumb as it seems from the backup policies ..
anton_osika: That's why I'm harassing mircea_popescu until I make him smile.
punkman: mircea_popescu: very common with mysql folks
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 16:59:13; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is right about c_wot
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 16:39:54; ben_vulpes: what are best practices with the mailing list again?
mircea_popescu: punkman also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JN0l7A_mE
mircea_popescu: anton_osika what part of property do you imagine is physical ?
punkman: !up anton_osika
anton_osika: Well I believe mircea_popescu would honor a contract where the couterparty has no competition at identifying himself. It would be pleasant to extend the notion of trust to identity in the physical domain however.
anton_osika: mircea_popescu: I liked your piece on formalised identity based trust system (WoT). Are there any attempts at extending it to our physical existances such as property?
anton_osika: shinohai: Excellent. Could you also advice me on how to successfully invite mircea_popescu for dinner at my home in Stockholm?
shinohai: You're welcome anton_osika my advice is free on Sundays :D
mircea_popescu: anton_osika your poor backup policies and phuctor.
mircea_popescu: win. https://igcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11353513_870135393073866_1385626694_n.jpg
mircea_popescu: !up anton_osika
mircea_popescu: !up anton_osika
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 12:25:05; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vextor phuctor has had mains plugs pulled on it several times recenty, and alf's attitude (i believe) is that the thing shoudn't run if its going to have its memory ripped out every time it warms up. remember, it keeps the running product in memory. mircea_popescu's attitude is that "software should be less friable than the hardware upon which it runs". asciilifeform is trying to find the sh
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: if frithjof schuon is illiterate then I must be less than a dog
ag3nt_zer0: Schuon: http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/Public/articles/The_Contradiction_of_Relativism-by_Frithjof_Schuon.aspx
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 which illiterate murican fail to understand stuff written in french through the age old process of not being able to read it ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263876 << dude this guy, https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11849818_393733814153193_1214647642_n.jpg https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11849818_393733814153193_1214647642_n.jpg ☝︎☟︎
assbot: RFC-2631, fips 186-3 and openssl's implementation of DSAappear broken (and possibly backdoored) | ___ ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZR59A )
shinohai: https://j.ludost.net/blog/archives/2015/09/05/rfc-2631_fips_186-3_and_openssls_implementation_of_dsa_appear_broken_and_possibly_backdoored/index.html ☟︎
andychase: also reddit.com/u/tytyty_ on reddit
asciilifeform: direct inquiries as to ~where~ to stow'em, to mircea_popescu et al.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: heh, ego solvent, this place is, eh?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: should you wanna take care of that literacy, I've got a chick going through that interactive SICP, seems to be working out for her
jurov: ag3nt_zer0: there's qntra, for example
kakobrekla: lets turn this around, what _can_ you do? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not really. just that you are wasting brain cycles on puzzling out the peculiarities of my proggy
asciilifeform: 'morning ag3nt_zer0
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: can you give me a good reason to read this ?
ag3nt_zer0: http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/Public/articles/The_Contradiction_of_Relativism-by_Frithjof_Schuon.aspx
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes you would probably gain from rewriting 'v' from scratch, rather than using mine
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski take me to the parallel lsd universe where i'm rich !
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: don't throw it out with the bathwater
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
asciilifeform: perhaps ben_vulpes et al will finish the job.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i was hoping it would be obvious to anyone who actually tried to use the thing.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: try producing a patch that forks off, e.g., rel1, and see what i mean.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: btw i find it interesting that nobody has yet noticed that 1) broken chains 2) orphaned subchains of any length whatsoever --- do not work ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what were your objections to 'banners' and 'desc' ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is right about c_wot ☟︎
ben_vulpes: c_wot, for instance, has no business knowing about all sorts of things in args.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: why on earth did you put in that horror with the nested if-thens ?
ben_vulpes: `python -m unittest test_v'
asciilifeform: neato ben_vulpes
trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein_ If only Cortes hadn't destroyed the Mesoamerican time machine, you could travel back and set everything right.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 23:54:25; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's how i do it: 1) clearsigned (asciiarmoured) body. 2) attachment 3) signature (asciiarmoured, detached) of attachment, having the filename attach.foo.sig for every attach.foo
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-09-2015#1262921 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 12:25:05; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vextor phuctor has had mains plugs pulled on it several times recenty, and alf's attitude (i believe) is that the thing shoudn't run if its going to have its memory ripped out every time it warms up. remember, it keeps the running product in memory. mircea_popescu's attitude is that "software should be less friable than the hardware upon which it runs". asciilifeform is trying to find the sh
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-09-2015#1258188 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes what were you trying to do ?! 'o' takes a ~tree file's hash~ as argument, and tells you ~which patch~ produced it. looks like you were giving it a patch's hash ??
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: what's that mean?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vextor phuctor has had mains plugs pulled on it several times recenty, and alf's attitude (i believe) is that the thing shoudn't run if its going to have its memory ripped out every time it warms up. remember, it keeps the running product in memory. mircea_popescu's attitude is that "software should be less friable than the hardware upon which it runs". asciilifeform is trying to find the shitgnome responsble for ☟︎☟︎
vextor: mircea_popescu noted that the bignum arithmetic often hobbled the machine, and to wait a few hours
asciilifeform: funkenstein_ will also likely enjoy the mega-classic http://www.ditext.com/diamond/mistake.html
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 04:24:17; funkenstein_: most all literate europeans, including cortez, wrote of "economic prosperity beyond any we have seen", "paradise", "wisdom". Hardly just mouthbreathing.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: no, these - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263618 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 23:03:16; funkenstein_: For more on that Guatemala story grep for "1986": http://www.skeptic.ca/American_Holocaust.htm
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: consider link to the documents mentioned earlier ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: http://maben.homeip.net/static/s100/software/microsoft/LISP/MuLisp.pdf << manual. (very grainy scan.)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: said exe contains (in my copy) a bitwise-unchanged copy of 'mulisp-87' and a savelispanddie image of derive's engine appended after.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: came with a buncha generated crud, for illustrative purposes