mircea_popescu: that'd depend on the context, now wouldn't it.

mircea_popescu: cuz what the fuck do you do, when "dude, get the fuck out, i was there, IF IT HAPPENED I WOULD HAVE SEEN IT" doesn't come out ?

mircea_popescu: guy liked playing bacarrat. guy was present at a table. others (wjho didn't like, and didn't play) picked a cheater. king... ABDICATED

mircea_popescu: i don't fucking posit, "oh, they were all people, and here's how peopledom goes, on basis of this example i misrecollect"

mircea_popescu: but "the habsburgs" aren't a fucking item. who, which ? die kaisrin, habsburg ? her mother ? her eldest sister ? her eldest brother ?

mircea_popescu: i don't even disagree! everything ever will match this model!

mircea_popescu: no dood. fails to distinguish as in, fails to distinguish. the partition it enacts upon the world is into two sets : the set of the items you invited over to play tea time with, and the set of the items you didn't [yet] so invite.

mircea_popescu: that i didn't permit that proposed transitivity, and i explained it in terms of hotpants, doth not mean anything about what we were discussiong.

mircea_popescu: you can't "give examples" as to the welfare of chickens by "accidentally having happened to pick" only cows.

mircea_popescu: the discussion went "oh, you're saying it tells you nothing actionable ?" "no, i'm saying it doesn't distinguish anything" "oh, so you're saying it tells you nothing actionable"

mircea_popescu: in exchange i'll give you this great tool : math is a great model for math. because whenever math works, math works, and also -- when doesn't... doesn't.

mircea_popescu: objection was that it doesn't distinguish between anything and anything, not moreso than, at the most, between "the set of things about which i could be arsed to think the five minues that;d produce support for it and the set of things i wasn't yet so arsed"

mircea_popescu: you understand this, if i and you are florentines, and you teach me the facts of life, there's a very fundamental difference between "a. get boat ; b. use lodestone, navigate ; c. find curio ; d. bring back home. e. trade for lots of dough and good things, including a desdemona ; f. strangle her for being a whore" whether i say "i don't know this lodestone model be worth my time" or i say "i dunno this strangling be worth my

mircea_popescu: you don't perceive the difference between the things we're discussing ?

mircea_popescu: in short, i don't mean that it dun persuade me "it's the case". it dun persuade me it's worth my time as a model.

mircea_popescu: (i'm not even proposing it can't be so credited ; i just think the question can't be handwaved.)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if you don't credit these actresses a real history, why do you credit china a real history ?

mircea_popescu: i suspect it's a lot like drafted actor going, "what, i died three thousand dozen times on broadway stages before tonight". "yes, but you weren't serious about it."

mircea_popescu: "my bones can feel the absence though my eyes can't perceive the difference"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe there's necessarily an answer at all, let alone in o(1).

mircea_popescu: somehow the stories fat frumos don't seem to include marriage by fruit of his labours "on the field". because you can't spank your own monkey into a wife anymore than you can douchebag your way into #trilema or pull yourself to moon by britches.

mircea_popescu: don't tell me "grew on land king gave you" lest i fall over.

mircea_popescu: (notice, for the noob, that the woman ~is actually depicted~ in the above illustration. she happens to be quadripedal, but as #metoo taught you, this shouldn't matter IN FAIRNESS.)

mircea_popescu: not even. rather, that they invented the pill doesn't mean much changes, because the ~pretense~ was that "they're fucking your wife because they don't feel like raising her children". the TRUTH was that "the only possible way human affairs are settled is -- boss has a harem, you wish to work for boss so therefore marry one of his whores".

mircea_popescu: this isn't in the slightest what's discussed here.

mircea_popescu: i mean... it's a great read and all, but doesn't happen to be what i had in mind. pretty sure the logline was it.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i seem to recall a trilema article about stealing a country, by creating an imaginary alt-country and just pretending that's it ; i can't quite find it now, and it's a shame, considering how prophetic it turns out to be.

mircea_popescu: "just because your paranoia doesn't pay doesn't mean paranoia doesn't pay"!!!

mircea_popescu: paranoia doesn't pay.

mircea_popescu: i mean, i can't fucking predict, what next, FOURTH indirection layer ? doing what exactly, it destroys meaning, how can you distinguish between a meta-monitor and a meta-meta-monitor ?

mircea_popescu: somehow 15yo girly a century ago didn't engage in this exercise in ludicrous idiocy whereby she'd importantly sprout off "you look just like the guy the old women told me to stay away from" right before running off [to be with herself in a corner somewhere].

mircea_popescu: "If you need to ask, you probably shouldn't go," he winced. "It is a source of pride among Uruguayans that their country lacks any world-class attractions. No Iguaçu Falls. No Patagonia. No Andes. But there is something wonderfully old-fashioned about Uruguay, and so beautifully uncomplicated."

mircea_popescu: but paul didn't know, when it came right down to it, how to say "woman, shut up". and well...

mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:44:15 <mircea_popescu> o look, now it ~didn't disconnect me at all anymore~. just sat there, 10 minutes+, nothing doing. because totally, "the protocol permits", or how did it go ?

mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:44:15 <mircea_popescu> o look, now it ~didn't disc

mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:40:54 <mircea_popescu> peripueral fever made the british empire possible more than anything else, and the reason there isn't one today are simply put all the happy tourists taking pictures of costa rican wild life.

mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:30:38 <mircea_popescu> and since i mentioned vice-versa again, some #haremleaks : hanbot asked me if i think the only reason anstey made paul a widower was so he didn't have to confront his son fucking his wife during that week. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: they ~don't mean to be~ dangerous, of course. they really meant everything to be the tits, really.

mircea_popescu: yes, it "permits", in the sense that it wasn't designed with a view of the amateur politician's needs in mind, and so their hamhandedness incidentally self-crits.

mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this supposed to work, seriously now, "hello sir we can't hear you sorry"

mircea_popescu: 11yos don't have tits.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely possibru! though the ~average~ girl is still no match for the lower placed boys. so i wouldn't call it "can't" properly speaking.

mircea_popescu: some guy who can't spell, because cotsnaltny doign htis, is you know, merely dyslexic. if they ALSO can't tie their own shoes... well...

mircea_popescu: diana_coman "retarded" is a term for ~broad~ failure. narrow failure, ie one that can be described on a single node, doesn't seem to meet it.

mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily kid if i call my car carsy either.

mircea_popescu: (to briefly revisit the dilettante issue : the other problem is that dilettante delights in ~consuming the end product~, ie, listening to music. the amateur trombonist and the dilettante jazzist may be a match made in heaven, however, they're not the same thing -- much like the narcissist and his borderline-sleeve gf aren't.)

mircea_popescu: i also didn't set on fire la paz wooden house, notwithstanding it is a reconstruction.

mircea_popescu: "when i discovered the universe was artificial i withdrew into amateurship, because you can't commit to following a universe that's broken"

mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what diff does it make. if airline pilot flies his own cessna one day is now amateur ?

mircea_popescu: somali-argentine "professionals" ain't.