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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's obvious, we don't even know serpent is in fact no good, hence "you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done
the work
to
turn
that suggestive
theory in practice)"
mircea_popescu: good
thing we have strong entreopy,
to run serpent off it.
mircea_popescu: might as well capitalize on Mocky 's experience
turn it into a ruby gem, yes ?
mircea_popescu: why is s.mg better off with republican stack
than with java stack ? it's still using serpent!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your
thread. my
thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation
that wants
to publish statements of
the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in
this vein forever"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: they can go
to a posh afair and show
the designs
to each other.
mircea_popescu: im not hiring anyone
to do it, not anymore.
tried and failed.
mircea_popescu: yes, im going
to use a shittier-than-hoped for cipher, for lack of alternative.
mircea_popescu: it's, as
they call in busioness, "a no brainer" -- i ain't doing jack.
mircea_popescu: understand
the position here : code (practice) <-> algos (theory). we currently have actual code for an algo
that you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done
the work
to
turn
that suggestive
theory in practice) and suggest replacement algos (but not done work again). my option is
to either put in 0 work for 0 result, or else put in x work for 0 result.
mircea_popescu: is
the idea more along
then lines of "i knew about
this all along, just didn't feel about
telling you schmucks anything until after you poured cement" ? rather
than "i literally could not be arsed
to even look at
this until someone poured some cement somewhere so i could pester
them
then" ?
mircea_popescu: the only different element is
that
today, unlike in 2015 (and not even RIGHT NOW,
today as in
this year) diana_coman published serpent code.
mircea_popescu: looky,
the past 3 days' work could have been done just as well in 2015 as
today.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in
the sense of "wait for diana_coman
to publish ada code and
then i'll maybe give it 6 hours of attention".
that's your 3years
mircea_popescu: and yes, ima implement "a cipher alf doesn't like" over alf's objections. because
the only way alf'd be a stakeholder in
this is... if... he had participated at a usefgul
time. not at
the
time he felt like.
mircea_popescu: i suspect, if you care
to know,
that you have a major problem in
that you only want
to work on anything once it's
too late. not coincidentally, but structurally, it being
too late is principally part of
the criteria impelling you
to work.
mircea_popescu: and if you're curious --
the reason
they "whisper" is because
they have 0 confidence
there's any listeners. and listener means a very specific
thing :
the sort of person who both a) meets
the intelligence bar AND!!! ALSO!!!! b) does not hallucinate options. such as "oh, dun need
to do
this now."
mircea_popescu: maybe you're magical and have
this option of going back in
time, and good for you. i do not.
mircea_popescu: i saw
the problem, in advance, i did my best
to solve it,
this is what came out of
that.
mircea_popescu: i foresaw
this need, in 2015. i put 10 btc behind encouraging people
to fix
the problem. it died an ignominous death, what i have is serpent,
that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: this notion of "be anyone" etc is entirely fabricated, out of
the venom of mother inca and
the overactive brains of idle smart boys. nobody agrees with it, nothing agrees with it in practice, it never is nor ever was nor ever could be found in nature... it's like you
thinking santa claus is real.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: g a point in case. if she's aspiring
to "work for
the government" she'll
tell you about how unfair it is for blacks, if she aspires
to work "for
tech" she'll
tell you how bad homeless are, if she wants
to marry and dependopopotamusize she'll
tell you handgun stats, whatever.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 00:12 mircea_popescu: in-group signalling, obviously someone not in-group would not say "drumpf" just like
that.
mircea_popescu: Mocky "After enough conversations with chicks I found
the pattern.
They
talk
the same by race,
they act
the same
they
think
the same. It’s like NPCs backed by a bored dialog writer wielding a Markov chain." << honestly, i dunno how much
time you spent
talking with us-born chickies, but
the EXACT SAME
THING APPLIES. and
they even actively work
to create such systematic nonsense,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867831 bein
☝︎ mircea_popescu: for all i know, just about
the
time i'm done uprooting
this and planting
that, you'll be geniusing
the exact same
thing about
that. i have 0 confidence
this won't happen, specifically because of historical evolution, and so...
mircea_popescu: i ain't about
to change
the code i have for a
theory
that might maybe work because
the
theory behind
the code i have might maybe not work according
to
this drawing.
mircea_popescu: so
the way
this is going now -- serpent is going
to be perfectly good (tm) for
the republic, because
the republic is
the republic of slow moving, mentally confused morons
that miss
their opportunities
to speak usefully.
mircea_popescu: not for his crime of "being smart" and "figuring out
the
true
truth". but for his crime of saying
things out of
time. because
there was a fucking
time for
this discussion, and it was strictly BEFORE s.mg paid money for people
to work
their ass off in preference of playing with
their kids
to get it a serpent.
mircea_popescu: 3. s.mg
tried
to be
the one fucking
thing in its line with encrypted comms, for which purpose it attempted
to
take some guidance and apply it in practice. NOW, after
the money's spent, and
the work put in, now smartass-architect comes by
to explain "how arches really should be" and "why
these arches are
terrible".
this is worse
than useless. not a little worse
than useless -- much, MUCH worse
than useless. all it does is get
mircea_popescu: t's doing it. because
this is what la serenissima is all about --
the doge back in venice is more
then welcome
to wholeheartedly support whatever
the fuck
the merchants on
the blue find correct just and expedient.
mircea_popescu: im not attached
to serpent in any way other
than in
the following sense you're well fucking advised
to pay attention
to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here
to make money. 2. s.mg is also
trying, but as a fucking distant second,
to be a "good" corporation, however
that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about
this, not in any deep sense, if
the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
mircea_popescu: we've been
talking about c-s for what, 3+ years ? it's still in
the same phase.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 16:55 mircea_popescu: Mocky Your comment on
the following post is awaiting moderation:
http://mocky.org/Souq-Waqif/ << nice cgi work keks
mircea_popescu: if 1layer
then
there's no space for your other-sequence.
mircea_popescu: the drawback is
that now you mix game code into crypto lib,
to discriminate possibles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right but it seems
to me
trivially easy
to select among 4 possibles seeing how you know "this is a game packet, gotta have so and so serial and so and so id etc"
Mocky: mircea_popescu, ok,
thx
mircea_popescu: aactually... i guess i should've left
that as a comment on
the article in q. brb.
mircea_popescu: a skill
that'll prove most important in
their own fucking country, last i heard all
the fuckable women
they grew locally
they exported
mircea_popescu: and it
turns out qatar is actually more important for india
than india itself realises : it's where
the aspie indie elite goes
to learn
to be "gay", ie, "i can't get any cunt anyway, might as well get used
to living with another dude, wardrobe as well as everything else comes cheaper
this way, cheap enough in fact for even scum like me
to get some".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno
that'd be
the end of
the world. part of
the problem of
the usecase (eulora comms) is
that you have highly structured inputs.