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shinohai feels nostalgic watching a trb happily sing along again ....
mircea_popescu: goldenho little red tab next to this one.
shinohai: Just battled a round of that meself and won. Whiskey and limon ^.^
trinque: hackin up the rest of this loser flu that stood no chance.
shinohai: hola trinque que hay de bueno?
trinque: I've lived in some pretty terrible shitholes, always seems that the ones that get picked out on the street wanted to be, on some level
shinohai: Heya asciilifeform .... stopped in to grab some keyz from deedbot, gonna try and update my trb with yer patches
BingoBoingo: Ah, here's the latest on the floater https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/novia-del-joven-asesinado-en-parque-rodo-nadie-nace-chorro-no-se-combate-la-violencia-con-mas-violencia--2018103121250
asciilifeform: whatcha up to these days, shinohai
BingoBoingo: And most of the self identified repeat victims don't recieve more than whatever bumps were necessary to abscond with their shit
BingoBoingo: It appears to take the occurrence of a serious cascade of failure.
asciilifeform: i suspect it takes some serious effort to get stabbed in BingoBoingostan
BingoBoingo: Right, because why when the local orcs themselves are the softest targets
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw asciilifeform walked all around the town, at ~all hrs, not only not stabbed but not even insulted, by orcs
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, asciilifeform has met me in person and confirm I am not built like a person who should be seeking out fights. Yet... It isn't rare to be walking about and the sight of some local dork fires something in the brain roughly equivalent to "they aren't as opprosed as they are signalling they should be"
BingoBoingo: There's folks who whine in the paper that everyone in their family has been robbed twice, yet they fail to wonder "is something wrong with my family?"
BingoBoingo: I don't know everything going on on the west side of Bulevard Artigas, but on my side the people getting robbed are getting robbed repeatedly because they can't quit their prey behaviors
mircea_popescu: fact : no female that sucked a mean cock was ever stabbed at night.
mircea_popescu: ro is "ciinii latra, caravana trece", ie, dogs bark, caravan passes, which imo slightly better.
BingoBoingo: Today the sun did not in fact rise. At some point the thick clouds dispersed and it was already up
mircea_popescu: you're contemplating something along the lines of "today nov 1st the sun rose because someone said ''the sun also rises'' in a book"
mircea_popescu: but whaty are they to do
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, if those characters lucked out with a better author, they wouldn't be so fork-eyeingly boring and trite and omfg enough already.
BingoBoingo: You poison a rando you gotta poison the rando stoolies or pay them off to not notice you poisoned the rando they were told to keep tabs on in exchange for getting prettier twinks in their block
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: erry once in a while when planets align , these dickens chars step out of the page and actually do sumthing, neh
mircea_popescu: how THE FUCK are figments of imagination gonna kill some dude ?
BingoBoingo: They only had to poison one milosevich
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the talking bags don'\t actually do anything or matter in any sense. it's like going "i wonder why dickens' characters didn't murder dickens, he's such a tedious pile of crap"
asciilifeform: lulzy that they din't simply poison him yet
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/alleged-cia-leaker-schulte-alleged-to-continue-leaking-usg-seekrits-from-jail/ << Qntra - Alleged CIA Leaker Schulte Alleged to Continue Leaking USG Seekrits From Jail
BingoBoingo: In local news, some old dryed up bag is talking about how Uruguay should break off relations with Brasil.
bvt: i also intend to genesis a ffatronic base64 encoder/decoder that i wrote as an exercise (also todo for the weekend).
bvt: can't say these results are any useful until i write a summary (todo for saturday).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: once we have the basic variant going, can then take some of the slowbite out of it with asmism etc
asciilifeform re-rotates desk to ffa pile ☟︎
mircea_popescu: exact sort of thing the very bite-ful "fuck you, world, you're not good enough to play" is articulated out of.
asciilifeform: sword -- right there in that stone.
asciilifeform: let the heroes rise!
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with giving that a breather, see where heroes may lie hidden in the woodwork.
asciilifeform: ( if, btw, somebody else has the time/inclination to do the latter, i'll only say 'thx'. thing is already in xor-sat form, roll the constant term into the eqn's, set $known-schedule as the output values, and gaussian-reduce... )
mircea_popescu: well, drop-in in the sense that once it's published ima ask trinque for a timetable for moving deedbot to using it ; and future aspirants to registration will have to use it, bake their own equivalent, or get lost.
asciilifeform: sounds like 'polish off the bloody bignum thing already!', lol. matrix reduction will have to wait, then.
asciilifeform: will have to specify the exact meaning of 'drop-in replace' tho, i suspect you dun actually want the keychain bs for instance
asciilifeform: it is possible that there's some format gnarl that i haven't accounted for , tho, i haven't tried erry elephantine key on it ( should really test by walking phuctor db )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: happens to be exactly what i set out to; on top of that, even got a gpg extractor (currently in py, but slated for adaization) , precisely for same ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ideally also has compatibility layer, which allows it to import gpg 2.0 and 1.4 style keys (and converts them to republican format), verify gpg 2.0 and 1.4 sigs and decrypt gpg 2.0 and 1.4 messages (but not encrypt to them).
mircea_popescu: ima pay s.nsa a coupla bitcoin for your trouble, and donate the result to the republic, in lieu of donating moar money to the dead end foundation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: buit as it is -- it's good to know they aim to make money as opposed to satisfy the tweeting hordes.
mircea_popescu: hey, if there didn't exist a bunch of unwashed morons polluting san francisco bay area, such obvious statements wouldn't be needed.
Mocky: unrelatedly, "In its IPO prospectus, Qatar Aluminium Manufacturing Company said one of the strategic objectives is to maximize shareholder returns by increasing financial returns." -Gulf Times fishwrap
mircea_popescu: in fact a lot of everything is very much like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868412 -- before republic tells you to go figure out talking to people, you don't know you can because you don't know to think to try. ☝︎
Mocky: but there's no way this kind of spade work is going to be harder than trying to wrap my head around code for hours. I always came out on top of the code, so what I'm not gonna figure out how to talk to people if actually try?
mircea_popescu: kinda how this goes.
Mocky: i know about raising kids, now that they are grown. and I know about java now that I'm sick of it
Mocky: I didn't have any more experience talking to orcs than chatting up chicks or writing c++, or rebuilding my bike engine back in the day, or fixing a million and one things for the first time. I don't know shit about shit. I never did
mircea_popescu: funny thing this tarent, that's at the same time lale and turns out to be arways thele.
asciilifeform: could simply have moar talent
mircea_popescu: and this, because Mocky had decades talking to orcs that alf didn't get ?
asciilifeform: for that matter, earlier, BingoBoingo : a++ terraformer
asciilifeform: so it is good that there is a Mocky
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is not , in his opinion, inept to the point of vegetable, but must say that prolly could not do what Mocky did, at least within the budget that he did it in
asciilifeform: 'can ya play violin?' 'dunno, not tried yet'
mircea_popescu: so yes, in ballet. BUT THERE ONLY, for the purposes of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: the only passible definition of intelligence i am aware of is, "the reunion of fields of human activity where the time-function has no age-relation."
asciilifeform: if what you want is to be world class balletist
asciilifeform: 'time' aint a scalar, no, time spend balleting when yer 5 y.o. counts infinitely moar than same when yer 40
mircea_popescu: time dun do what you think time does.
mircea_popescu: take http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1844323 ; the one thing the bimbo whose summaries you don't like and whose marked improvement over time you disparage had to say was "oh, great idea. we did that at purdue, made a lot of money." she happens to be right, too ; she also hasn't the decades of doing this. or anything else, for that matter -- she can barely speak english. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: except time doesn\t work this way.
asciilifeform: it's a cost of specialization / finite hrs in the day. i suppose i could prolly become a middling-to-ok chukcha talker, instead of what i do nao, if comes to it. but i dun think i will ever be a champ, i dun have the decades of doing it, that other folx have.
mircea_popescu: and this exact same problem translates in the realm of theoretical work, also.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is not a+++ chukcha talker / polar explorer, this aint a seekrit, that crown goes to others.
mircea_popescu: we're not even talking "magic number only dragons know" sorta items here. take the easy example of "go dig up qatar/uruguay/whatever", not because im trying to underhandedly make you move but because it's a fabulously easy to see example.
asciilifeform: prolly would have found it, but who even knows how much digging would have taken.
asciilifeform: early trb , for instance. i had nfi how to cure the db locks thing until mircea_popescu supplied the pill.
asciilifeform: will also add, some problems my spade dun work on, and take unseemly long time of 'wtf did you do' to even convert into spadeable form with the tooling available to asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: im not disputing you're consciously trying to overcome it. but as a factual matter -- yes, very adverse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at all times i try to keep some reserve of unallocated spade cycles
asciilifeform: dun hesitate to say 'hey this smells like buried goodies'
asciilifeform: btw while we're on subj of spades, asciilifeform is not ( contrary to the apparent picture ) averse to taking input re where to spade.
asciilifeform: perhaps it's simply the fact of duped p's and q's, but could easily be larger
asciilifeform: while we're on subj, mircea_popescu had a pretty interesting observation in '16, 'the boecks were rousted because we're on to sumthing, but we dun know precisely what yet'
mircea_popescu: and so in this manner, forevermoar.
mircea_popescu: "what's the only salient point of #metoo '''mopvement''' aka morons on usg.ugc sites ?" "that it only attaches to people who don't laugh at them."
mircea_popescu: yet a picture is starting to emerge.
asciilifeform: ( it aint always obvious just ~where~ that is, enemy is pretty handy with sleight-of-hand )
asciilifeform: gotta go to the place-being-distracted-from.
mircea_popescu: gotta become standard republican behaviour, insta-go into the silence.
mircea_popescu: the point you make re serpent is solid -- discussions, by the dumptruck. of anything and everything BUT. went there, yielded within the week.
mircea_popescu: they didn't discuss factored keys re rsa, everything and anything but that -- we went ther,e it yielded.
asciilifeform: a++ heuristic, can take to the bank
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is a major (if unsurprising) moral of this story : always start with what htey don't discuss.
asciilifeform: in retrospect seems obvious that it's the most questionable bit
asciilifeform: conceivably if asciilifeform were smarter, would've ~began~ with the scheduler, rather than the sboxes
asciilifeform: could have very easily done same amt of spading, and not found. i dun even know if i'll find a reduction of the matrix, just yet.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the entirety of the morning's discussion reduces to "what the fuck've you been spading, i only hear about serpent-this nao".
asciilifeform: if i had 100% 'where to spade' , we'd be shooting enemy from atomic dirigible with death ray just nao, rather than this thread.
asciilifeform: all i got is , 99% spade, and occasional bit of 'where to spade'
mircea_popescu: taking the evident and less fraught example of phuctor -- yes, "tel you what, ima dake djb results and apply!", genius. but "let's actually divide some numbers" absolutely spade, and it is this latter that yielded.