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bvt: i have structured the base64 tree as a directory with a library and example applications; only library is supposed to be compiled with restrictions, but some restrictions propagate to applications as well
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 20:39 bvt: found and unexpected problem that specialization of Ada.Sequential_IO conflicts with Restriction(No_Unchecked_Access) in the test applications.
mircea_popescu: bvt what is the actual underlying that ended up summarized as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869645 ? ☝︎
bvt: just tested ffa-8 where rng was introduced -- it works fine. would be trying to understand what is wrong with my code, then
diana_coman: hm, weird; now I'm really curious if you get the same complaint with asciilifeform's ffa (or my smg comms for that matter)
bvt: but yes, it is adacore -- not the default sad gcc implementation
diana_coman: bvt, is that adacore's gnat?
diana_coman: I just checked and I can confirm too: that restriction is fine here while using Ada.Sequential_IO
bvt: i used gnat 2017. will test ffa rng code and see if it works out.
asciilifeform: bvt: which gnat are you using ? i've never observed any such thing ( and i use the same restriction, http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch11_tuning_and_api/tree/ffa/libffa/restrict.adc#L76 , ~with~ sequential i/o, http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch11_tuning_and_api/tree/ffa/ffacalc/ffa_rng.adb#L49 )
bvt: in the end, just disabled the restriction.
bvt: i had a look in the .ali file, where presumably list of dependencies for a compiled .adb file is stored, but grep would find nothing in the dependencies
bvt: found and unexpected problem that specialization of Ada.Sequential_IO conflicts with Restriction(No_Unchecked_Access) in the test applications. ☟︎
bvt: hello. i had to delay making a genesis of base64 lib, will try to finish tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: Mocky somewhat not surprised. orcs generally take such positions
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> but jokes on me, nobody got ruffled feathers because they weren't advocating daos, just raising awareness! starting the conversation! they agreed with me! << It's what orcs do. How much hashish do you estimate the other attendees ate prior to showing up?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-03 15:04 mircea_popescu: there he sits, remote in hand, "checking to see if there's anything interesting on the tv". are we ready to entertain him yet ? or does he come back later ?
asciilifeform: * amstan_ is now known as amstan << lol! that d00d is still here, i can't properly picture why
Mocky: but when I watch it back I see that I softened my criticisms a lot
Mocky: guy said blockchain was gonna fix fake news, it told him his interpretation of the "DAO hack and ether theft" was the fake news
Mocky: but jokes on me, nobody got ruffled feathers because they weren't advocating daos, just raising awareness! starting the conversation! they agreed with me!
Mocky: just got back from blockchain event. I told them their ideas of humanity 3.0 governed by blockchain smart contracts was a delusion. And then critcized both the ethereum-roll-backers and the ethereum-continue-with-broken-shit
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: Mocky how are you enjoying the emissary extraordinary and plenipotentiary gig btw ?
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869576 >> I like it ok. I see now that I artificially capped my quality of life here by getting too-cheap accommodations. And that got amplified by not having power and internet anywhere else. ☝︎
asciilifeform: neato, ty diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 09:56 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869273 - a config file seems the better choice, yes; I'll add it to the list to move the keys to a config file and update the tests to read from config file; that should actually meet asciilifeform's requirements too since the code will not contain the >80cols lines (although the config files will, of course)
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869503 -> and done; asciilifeform and anyone else requiring strictly 80 cols - I've updated the post with a .vpatch to read the keys from file and thus keep them out of the fully-80-cols-now code itself: http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/04/smg-comms-chapter-6-packing-and-unpacking-rsa/#selection-157.0-159.591 ☝︎
mod6: nice, thanks jurov
BingoBoingo: And in local news... the coming months will determine which one of these two the transcendental Spirit of Great Again will bless https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/llego-sartori-y-se-hizo-el-misterioso-sobre-su-posible-candidatura-les-prometo-que-van-a-estar-al-tanto--201811513835 https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/partido-de-la-gente-el-juvenil-de-la-politica-que-no-termina-de-afianzarse-20181155038
BingoBoingo: Anyways, suppose someone gets a time machine and kills baby Hegel. If Marx is still cribbing from someone in "the conversation" does he go to Fichte instead? Does drunk Steve Bannon arrive a century and a half too soon?
BingoBoingo: Let's call up Maury and get that daytime tv paternity testing
mircea_popescu: cuz any 3yo is the same exact daddy of THAT.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway, it's fucking lulzy to me how the dumb shit always comes back to "psychic unity of mankind" nonsense. << Well, in this case I don't see how Hegel isn't the daddy
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 18:51 mircea_popescu: Mocky i actually distinguish between smarts (the reductive ability, that powers "i suspect there's no such thing as intelligence", and typified perhaps best by d. kyon) and "intelligence" (the constructive ability, that powers "more loc, more tech, more future", and typified perhaps best by "fm-2030" ).
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 05:57 mircea_popescu: does this resonate with any familiarity in ye olde phracking and telco or nothing there to resonate with ?
mircea_popescu: jesus christ how hard is it to not be three years old anymore already.
mircea_popescu: no fucker, WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME ONE.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's fucking lulzy to me how the dumb shit always comes back to "psychic unity of mankind" nonsense.
BingoBoingo: The transition to library school where Dewey mean a completely different person lead to some confusion in conversations, especially in Missouri where Truman defeated yet another different Dewey
BingoBoingo did do two year of graduate study at SIU when their department still had the old house full of photocopies they dubbed "The Center For Dewey Studies"
mircea_popescu: well yes, nobody's seriously contemplating the "ummim an' thurimm" of ye olde paris-moscow-rome-etcetera actually DOING anything. they're just whatever the subliterate peasantry remembers from the old world almanacs.
BingoBoingo: Dewey's mammie-ism is just distilling the pop culture hegelians who cam before him
mircea_popescu: (alf's "robohitler" mostly exists as alf's own mind's reinterpretation of the boas-pantsuit ; cargo cultish lulz (say in the "artificial intelligence" vein to pick but one of many examples) usually come from the dewey-pantsuit.)
BingoBoingo: I am inclined to lean toward Dewey cribbing from the pop culture hegelians. Not a father so much as the theiving sad sack from the "I made this" meme series
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, there's actually two distinguishable pantsuit trends to this day, a mystagogical cvasi-elitism spawned from boas and a mechanicistic mammie-ism visibly spawned off dewey. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, i've been sitting here all morning pondering whether inuit fucker franz boas or mme blavatsky dewey truly deserves the "intellectual father of pantsuit" title.
mircea_popescu: or the year they really really need its posture as a float be credible, seeing how they also want a chunk of china's sea.
BingoBoingo: But (current year) is the year it floats
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently they have been bumping their heads against various issues for 30+ years trying not to Argentina themselves
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i distinctly recall that thing being advertised in early 2000s
asciilifeform: ( for 'real-life' comparison -- the miniature XC9572XL item in http://btcbase.org/patches/fg-genesis#selection-297.16-297.24 , gives 72 LUTs and nuffin else , of which FG uses all but 1 )
asciilifeform: not directly comparable, tho, 'virtex' also had various heterogeneous parts, e.g. cascadable shift registers, adders, etc. inside.
asciilifeform: approx 4x the logic carpet of the fattest ice40, for comparison.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=797 << ancient asciilifeform article series re: a much older device of this type.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't say it was 'same thing', yes it comes with the grandfather of all shitstacks (20+GB of liquishit) . it's for simulating designs, not for deploying ( why wouldja deploy anyffing on such a thing, it makes cluster of pc look vehehery cheap and 'opensores'y by comparison )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 21:49 mod6: jurov: go ahead and Xcancel your auction #1005, and plz to bid on mine (#1006)
mod6: !Q later tell jurov http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869263 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Mocky how are you enjoying the emissary extraordinary and plenipotentiary gig btw ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869566 << top fucking keks over here. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not the same thing ~at all~ however. for one thing, it comes with the xilinx shitstack. for the other, it's a sack large enough to contain a car. we're talking about the actual car.
Mocky: anyway, i'm off to this DAO / blockchain meetup. couldnt' scare up a camera crew so I guess i'll have to film myself
Mocky: I expect to work the phones to find this guy
Mocky: felt like "yeah he's a mile down the road, can't miss it"
Mocky: i'm also skeptical that he's there. i was told by 8 20-something arabs lounging around the lobby desk bored. they had to call over the 9th who was the only one who could speak broken english
Mocky: i didn't ahve time to make it over there before ministry closes at 2pm, sigh
Mocky: at the other building, they told me he's at commercial bank plaza (home of servcorp coworks)
Mocky: went down to the ministry of transportation and communitications today to book an appointment. they told me he wasn't at that building but the other ministry building
asciilifeform: Mocky: sounds like exactly what mircea_popescu was speaking of. see if allah wills that he shows up to his desk.. ☟︎
Mocky: Assistant Undersecretary, Information Technology
Mocky: speaking of weight in diamnonds, I find the guy I should be talking to here: Hassan Al-Sayed
asciilifeform: but they're actually in my parts houses' catalogues.
asciilifeform: afaik they're ~only~ used for asic dev, hence the 'we charge weight in diamonds'
asciilifeform: Mocky: coupla thou. usd
asciilifeform: they offer a half-mil. LUT thing. (can fit, e.g., orig 'pentium', say.)
asciilifeform: ( naturally it's the big-fpga monopolist, xilinx . but it's there. )
asciilifeform: apropos of upstack -- last wk asciilifeform did the ~yearly dig re 'does anyone actually sell fpga big enuff to demo 8192b-arithmetizer inside, fully unrolled' and turns out that yes (as of 6mo ago)
mircea_popescu: his "source book" is practically speaking the last time one had to collect and translate previously uncollected and untranslated worldbreakers.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, apropos de nothing : Jean van Heijenoort is an interesting character, not because of his youthful association with one of the inconsequential marx-zigglers burlesque and slapstick acts of the early 20th century, but because of his later life as a historian of what could only properly be called "the end of nations as an intellectual construct".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i get pingbacks from these nonstop. tho more often they're shannonized 'miner' sites
mircea_popescu: because what could be better than starting one of these 2008-style spamsites, in 2018 ?
mircea_popescu: MOST of issues in civilised (which strictly means white) world are resolved by that method.
mircea_popescu: anyways, more in the general, there's a LOT of merit to dennis hopper's monologue in http://trilema.com/2013/true-romance-tarantino-cut/ : "he didn't think to tell me... and i didn't think to ask".
mircea_popescu: and for that matter crt bitness is 24 not 32, but apparently nobody cared enough to insist on the exact magic number
mircea_popescu: right. and his bitness doesn't enter into it, though i didn't pick it up. literally, prime-count bus same cost.
asciilifeform: my orig observation was that this is a less stupid use of die space than e.g tlb cache and the other liquishit x86 is packed with 'so win10 faster'
mircea_popescu: same cost as in, fixed cost of the machinery making them
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 06:16 mircea_popescu: now, do you see how these magic numbers are nothing else, and if producer wants he can make 19, 4435 or whatever bus and register cpus FOR THE SAME COST ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869478 << 1 nitpick -- not quite same cost, the size of the adder, barrel shifter, and esp. -- multer, grow with the cube of the reg bitness ☝︎
asciilifeform: but not surprising. i think they hashcollided whole planet at this point.
asciilifeform: is there, i missed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a york.
asciilifeform: rather than york
asciilifeform: at least the had the sense to make newyork prefixed
mircea_popescu: and if they try to "fucker, get your own names" it's mittikittegoongamooga or w/e the fuck the canadians call things
diana_coman: lol, I never quite understood wtf it is with US that they can't even come up with new names for places or what
asciilifeform: they have a rome in illinois, a odessa in texas, etc so wainot
mircea_popescu: moscow IDAHO. this is a thing now, fucking paris, texas wan't good enough for these people. they gotta have a moscow also.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news of only apparent alf interest, i'm in talks with... a chick from moscow.
mircea_popescu: i guess at that...
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that sounds close to "and then goat ate the wolf"