asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if had ...logger-a/log/trilema/.../#12345... and ...logger-b/log/trilema/.../#12345... go to same place, then their www can reliably point all links to self ( for e.g. backlinkage , when implemented) otherwise not

asciilifeform: mod6: a++ . chronicle errything you can, incl. (especially!) dead ends

asciilifeform: ( in re urls tho -- if we had a reliable sync, would be quite painless to have each logger re-point log links to self )

asciilifeform: currently era 1 has not been eaten, it is pending a pill for the clock diff grrr

asciilifeform: 'era 1' , when finally eaten, will be 'dekakoized' via phf's algo, i.e. <a href="...foo...">bar</a> only 'foo' will be transfomed, when foo corresponds to a kakotron url

asciilifeform: a!

asciilifeform: diana_coman: take a look in your config... suddenly your box shows as 'sossabot' ??

asciilifeform: re that thrd, asciilifeform prolly will succumb to temptation to buy rubidium clock ( they're apparently laffably cheap, 100-200 bux or so, massive pile of surplus from gsm towers ) but this aint a solution as such, i aint about to ask ~erryone~ to buy one and build the 10mhz-to-pc-clock box for same. asciilifeform is simply tired of his own clocks drifting all over.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: mircea_popescu said 'go think', so i went, to think. still haven't a pill tho.

asciilifeform: we're gonna need a pill .

asciilifeform: seems like ossabot lost a line at some point ?

asciilifeform: ( imho as far as these go, not even unfounded, a. crowned, after all, gorby )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++ bear btw. ( supposedly there is a bear in east usa, but i've never seen. even the 1 in the zoo, seems to have died 20y ago )

asciilifeform still has a chinese, circa '70 or so, towel, hanging, bought by ancestors in trip to ro. they're ~eternal.

asciilifeform: trinque: i doubt this is the cause, mine lives on a box w/ quite heavy load, and so far 0 disconnects to date (aside from coupla hand restarts)

asciilifeform: trinque: the linked recipe gives you the closest thing there was to a working gentoo circa '18 .

asciilifeform: a standard FG usb uartron can be used to talk to rk

asciilifeform: a++

asciilifeform: for thread-completeness -- if anyone has a trb that aint in my addnode ( the piz nodes -- already are in ) and would like it included -- plox to comment.

asciilifeform: the 3rd, still seems to be a noad, of some description. just, catches no mice.

asciilifeform: a.

asciilifeform: report to #a, herr lurker, get yer uniform & spade . dun let life pass by while watching .

asciilifeform: anyone else running a trb w/ 'who-gave' -- invited to publish theirs .

asciilifeform: from this log, it would imho not be a mistake to say that there are approx 200 boxen that could be described as btc nodes . the rest -- are https://www.oglaf.com/humans/ .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suggested mirrorism to mod6 cuz iirc it's the type of chore he's historically a++ in. as i understand lobbes is 99% of the way to 3rd logger , so not exactly burning , tru

asciilifeform: diana_coman: go ahead and make a 'centos' in /contrib or where were these, in vtree, other folx may want'em

asciilifeform: searching for 'talmudic' underpinnings of curent il is a favourite, i'm aware, preoccupation of 'armchair archaeologists', in much the same spirit as 'pedo-pizza proofs'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re israel -- consider fact that stalin happily funded it, while it was -- briefly -- a bone in the throat of angloreich, rather than province in good standing of same

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this q never struck me as a deep mystery. angloreich gotta have its 'unsinkable carriers', israel, taiwan, south kr, etc

asciilifeform: ( apropos of subj -- it is interesting to consider why 'tiananmen wank' is a thing in cn. the not-so-seekrit answer is that open discussion of subj would indeed cost the crowned heads their necks -- but ~not~ for 'ohnoez, killing protesters' -- but instead ~for having left any alive~. their 'grievances' included e.g. 'how dare pekin permit sons of peasants to enter university' . )

asciilifeform: it's already , likely, a +ev proposition. and the only thing preventing this nuke from firing, is the cowardice of the folx holding the detonator.

asciilifeform: as i understand , all that'd be needed to bring that shitshow to a permanent close, is a dozen or so blocks mined w/ '51%' thrust, containing the segshit unwinds.

asciilifeform: the most helpful currently unavailable tool would be a troo and honest survey of publicly-reachable nodes of erry type. ( via port scan of ipv4 and subsequent interrogation , by properly-written proggy. )

asciilifeform: to formalize : asciilifeform's current hypothesis is that there is a thin 'tube' of trb-compat. nodes b/w pekin & trb orchestra. responsible for 100% of new blox.

asciilifeform: ( moreover, they issue it -- and get the ban -- a few msec after connecting. ergo they are responsible for 0 brought blox, and in fact we gain 0 from talking to them )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think, this is elementary. as soon as they issue a 'bloomism' or similar cmd to a trb node -- they get malleus'd. and yet we still get blox in realtime for 6-7 months at a stretch.

asciilifeform: the correct frequency with which situation 'trb node a is at height H, its peer trb node b is at H-k, for hour+' oughta happen, is ~never~

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my original plan included a serial-controlled relay board for rebooting individual rk. but nao thinking, just how often anyone asked to reboot ? do we need this ?

asciilifeform: gotta use full url w/ chan, to get the page. curl normally doesn't walk 301 ( there's a toggle but i fughot )

asciilifeform: mno, yer seein a 301

asciilifeform: diana_coman: a++

asciilifeform: meanwhile diana_coman's log appears to be a++ current. pretty neat.

asciilifeform: a++

asciilifeform: i expect that the o(1) tx db will become needed at some pt for realtime operation, rather than a 'wouldn't it be nice one day' item.

asciilifeform: in re trb -- zoolag ~still~ chewing on a block (perhaps the genuine ..450, perhaps not) even nao.

asciilifeform: imho an orchestra of log mirrors / bot boxen is a notbad prelude to the eventual gossipdification .

asciilifeform: aand it's made of junkyard parts ( see diana_coman's laments ) . at some pt we will have a civilized, human replacement.

asciilifeform: mod6: it's a nearly starvation-bare logtron atm, missing all kindsa luxuries (e.g. phf's backlinks system) . but atm it's the only 100% working ~published~ one

asciilifeform: mod6: depending on whether you have a box where can run python & postgres, it is maybe 1-2hrs of sweat.

asciilifeform: mod6: consider standing up a log mirror, like diana_coman today. it is relatively imho 'light' exercise, oughta be good for morale of mod6 , and makes very useful result .