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benkay: lady v, re starting as js-sweepers: "i'm sure."
mircea_popescu: this is like that case of a three year old that';s so far smarter and better than you that your only hope as a father is to slave and serve it on your knees
mircea_popescu: <benkay> perhaps the usg isn't as inimical to btc biz as i'd previously gathered << where'd you gather that ? reddit ?
mircea_popescu: but i doubt he had much of a future as an issuer anyway, at least on the short term
mircea_popescu: and as to why he ponied up, probably bcause it's a laughably small sum, it gives the sec something it already had (i doubt any us citizen can sanely argue that th eauthority of the us govt and its agencies doesn't extend to him)
benkay: perhaps the usg isn't as inimical to btc biz as i'd previously gathered
mircea_popescu: as long as management is concerned, seed bets just have to add up to .1
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> maybe they would do well as a bitbet affiliate << worth a shot.
mike_c: maybe they would do well as a bitbet affiliate
mike_c: css isn't as good as bitbet
davout: paying for sex with bitcoin is ok as long as you're not done before the transaction has confirmed
diametric: 1234. 0000. 8008 is a classic as well.
Apocalyptic: mircea, I see, my interpretation of "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" was different
mircea_popescu: none of these considerations are wide berth issues such as bach's.
mircea_popescu: such as a particularly easy to attack space etc.
Naphex: maybe as an experiment, who knows the benefit
Apocalyptic: is this the question "is the discrete logarithm problem as hard as the factorization problem" ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, im not one to give last night's calves black eyes, but.... as you say, loing backlog.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: asciilifeform: do you know if this is true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" << nobody fucking knpows if this is true, this is the mn dollar question in practical cryptography.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Phinnaeus: I'm curious as to when Micrea had that pic taken where he's in front of the pyramid on a horse. << 2003 iirc.
mircea_popescu: as every other fucking day
fluffypony: "I know most of you scoff at the idea of storing BTC on Coinbase, but I am not nearly as technologically inclined as most of you. Each storage suggestion I read looks to me like this:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. << pretty much. a dangerous gambit, of course, as the world also goes about its business scarcely taking notice of their efforts.
mircea_popescu: infinite hitpoints, as a property of the environment not of the idiots.
mircea_popescu: dub: similar(ly stupid) ideas about spending them after fiat collapses as metals probably, libertardation << seems credible. some sort of fetishism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, exactly the same as in the us, remarkably.
mircea_popescu: princessnell: i used to think to myself "well, these women are at least promoting the tech in a way that other women can understand." but they're only thinking of it as a consumption tool, which is worse than doing nothing at all. << by george, nell got it exactly.
Naphex: no it was high before as well
asciilifeform: i do wonder as to the objective: poor lamer knocks on the door, invited for tea, vivisected ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake: it's weird to name yourself bitcoinwoman << about as weird as bitcoingirl. kinda lulzy how female identity is constructed in th eeng;lish space
asciilifeform: 'eagle', as i understand, is among the more impractical small arms ever sold
Naphex: man people who host on vps will host their .bash_history and wallet code there as well
xmj: you might just as well read some techcrunch
mircea_popescu: by the time there's laws directing the proper behaviour in bakeries the discussion as to whether the state failed or succeedded is moot
xmj: pankkake: i think mircea_popescu is stupid for thinking i'm stupid for describing reality as it is.
mircea_popescu: so she's going to 4ever be remember as that nigger that didn't need em to have em :D
mircea_popescu: "As-salamu 'alaykum
Naphex: http://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2012/04/11/fab-or-fail-jeremy-scott-gorilla-adidas-as-seen-on-amber-rose-and-a-ap-rocky/_jcr_content/featuredMedia/newsitemimage.newsimage.dimg/041112-fashion-beauty-2-chainz-gorilla-adidas-shoes.jpg those some nice shoes
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, it will be argued that it is in fact discriminatory on the racist presumption that it disproportionately affects black customers, as if they absolutely have to have black figurines on their wedding cake.
mircea_popescu: they're just as tangible now than before, what are they worth ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, at the time there were about 9.5mn in total in existence, of which ~1mn still locked as today
mircea_popescu: math models are a lot easier to access, yes. not nearly as useful tho, not generally.
mircea_popescu: math is a prime tool of making one stupid, even in sane places (such as the soviet union)
princessnell: that's the spectacle. then there's the masses of subprime borrowers who went to shit tier law schools and now work as glorified file clerks at an hourly wage.
mircea_popescu: princessnell, as in too many duke grads unemployed to the point you get idjits a la tucker max writing "novels" and then moving on to "financial advicering" ?
mircea_popescu: and so there IS such a thing as "start-ups" in the same sense there actually is a thing called new york.
artifexd: It is hard to find (as in I couldn't) an easy way to do gpg email in gmail. There used to be plugins but they just don't last/work.
mircea_popescu: <TomServo> "You buy Doge for the community not as an investment." << thus spoke socialisthustra.
TomServo: "You buy Doge for the community not as an investment."
fluffypony: and about a billion dumb features submitted as pull requests
pankkake: "You should not keep all your eggs in 1 basket, get some Litecoin as well, have you seen the volume and market cap? I am 70% Bitcoin, 30% Litecoin - Litecoin is seriously undervalued right now.
mircea_popescu: attention all people logged into trilema : im putting in a change ticket, which will be implemented whenever today and as a result will prolly log you out. just log back in will be fine.
mircea_popescu: and ima do it because "some of the seats are already taken", as if random rottinculo has the upper hand in this fucking relationship where i got the dough and he's doing the begging.
davout: Naphex: they announced some naw language, looks just as ugly as objective c
Naphex: as they ban torrent apps a well
davout: such as coinjar
davout: how does having it as a separate thing help ?
Naphex: see, now will that api do payments processing as well in the same big app?
Naphex: they come up with servicing in mind, and the same way a client hooks up to them web platforms hook up as well
Naphex: but rarely i have to do that for backends, as in hardware nowadays is too fast to care
davout: the interlink code could count as clutter as well
Naphex: i mean we're working on finalizing the payment/merchant gateway as well. but we're building them as separate projects to avoid clutter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: point being, a liveable house, as popularly imagined in usa, will never cost what laptop, or even car, costs - if the authorities have to burn 99% of them to maintain this condition, they will.
asciilifeform: 'Both Dahlberg and Barrett say they don't understand why banks allow the problem to proliferate. As they see it, it's in the bank's best interests to rid itself of the property.'
asciilifeform: decimation: at this point, it seems reasonable to think of google et al. as 'poisoned tree' and their crypto not worth the effort to audit.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course they are. Question is why media outlet proceeds as though they aren't...
asciilifeform: (on account of it being exempt from air pollution regulations, as i understand.)
Phinnaeus: I guess after a few more sessions here, I'll get up to speed as to how to use this IRC thingie.
mike_c: i hate cloudflare as much as everyone, but this is actually a really useful primer on RSA and EC if you are new to the details of how they work:
mike_c: asciilifeform: do you know if this is true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs"
Phinnaeus: I'm curious as to when Micrea had that pic taken where he's in front of the pyramid on a horse.
decimation: "Why do you only support Elliptic Curve (EC) key generation? Generating RSA keypairs is very significantly slower than generating EC-based ones. EC-based keys are just as secure. "
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understatement. practically the only participant whose product works 'as printed on the crate'
mike_c: lol. wikipedia is not as creative as us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis
bloctoc: A number of Bitcoin enthusiasts have been drawn to trading in shares of virtual currency companies, or other financial instruments such as Bitcoin derivatives, traded in Bitcoin on unregulated websites. MPex, the Romanian exchange where SatoshiDice used to trade, currently lists four stocks, one fund and five derivatives for trading.
BingoBoingo remembers the project as "present what three vendors have in the way of tools for advancing technology education"
BingoBoingo: Digging through archives I found hypercard setup VM exactly as asciilifeform described
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd assume so as well. Probably also a reception party.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Assuming they don't want library books... Probably going to get drafted as a drug mule.
asciilifeform: as described in an old book, 'how to collect illegal debts' (actual title)
jurov: i'm not sure they'll understand fine points of such complicated strategy as "i die, money goes to cia"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the physical hiding place approach suffers from the same problems as 'brainwallet.'
BingoBoingo: New risks of loss are introduced, but... The scenario in which it would be useful is different as well.
dub: similar(ly stupid) ideas about spending them after fiat collapses as metals probably, libertardation
asciilifeform: the python linked earlier (diametric?) isn't a proper python, where the interpreter is available at run time, but, as i understand, a simple batch-mode compiler.
jurov: i'm using pi just as an illustration that people you may want to get interested in lisp start by getting emotionally hooked onto coding, regardless of what's available being utter crap
BingoBoingo: Fuck it, might as well try this again. Got to beat Coindesk et al on this subject.
fluffypony: moiety: I loaded funds into Skype so you can call out as well as receive calls
diametric: As tempting as 2K SAT is, I'll pass.
diametric: See the permissions it grants? they can basically spam as me.
BingoBoingo: Naphex: Let us not forget relaxed hardware lasts longer as well
midnightmagic: our discussion centred on how you thought he was using a coinjoin'd transaction (re: "I taint the rich!" bitcointalk thread) to steal peoples' money or use the transaction as a historical proof that he had "access" to it in some form and thereby mislead less enlightened people for the purposes of loans or business shenanigans.
princessnell: i used to think to myself "well, these women are at least promoting the tech in a way that other women can understand." but they're only thinking of it as a consumption tool, which is worse than doing nothing at all.
nubbins`: i think the gist of that piece is "it behooves us all to get as many people as possible into bitcoin"
nubbins`: "The shares were listed on an entity known as the Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange (“GLBSE”), which purported to run a Bitcoin stock exchange."
mike_c: artifexd: so where does that leave the shares. owning a share of s.mg on havelock is only worth 50% as much as a share on mpex. crazy, huh. they are way overpricing those havelock shares :)
fluffypony: as a KNOWN SCAMMER I should've known better
assbot: Silk Road as a Self-Regulating Black Market | The mlaut
princessnell: also, re silk road, i love it when i beat <3science<3 by a few months: http://theumlaut.com/2013/08/13/silk-road-as-a-self-regulating-black-market/
fluffypony: ok so let me tell you about my new startup: it's going to be a one-click backup service called iWalletBackup. It will let you use Siri via raise-to-talk to back all your wallets up to iCloud. It's being written in Swift and will use mongoDB as a backend. It can scale nearly instantly because it will just fire up new AWS instances on-demand. Our development methodology is fail-fast-fail-often, where we'll write an iteration, and then once that