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erlehmann: in my opinion, having python and sqlites as dependencies is a massive no-go for a build system.
erlehmann: second: “i have written a redo implementation, does it work correctly?”, i again lost him. he suggested to meet at a place at a time during the conference and i thought i knew the place but apparently i erred because there was no place with the name i thought he had said.
erlehmann: i suspect he has at least a prototype, but he has never published it. reason: i found dofiles in some stuff about elliptic curves.
phf: does djb have a working redo implementation or it's just a concept paper?
phf: when you have a hammer
erlehmann: regarding redo: needing dependencies is not limited to compiling programs. datasets are also something. i build my website with redo. i have managed converted media files with redo. i would not want to wait hours for the re-encoding of each file every time i rebuild a web site.
asciilifeform: i'll use a tabcompleteless shell after i start shitting in holes in the ground.
asciilifeform: if your program is large, and build time is a bottleneck : Your Program Is Wrong
asciilifeform: i gotta admit : i don't consider the problem to be a very interesting one
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 00:35 erlehmann: asciilifeform do you have an opinion on DJB redo? or maybe even a simpler design? i would only trust my own implementation and MAYBE the one from jonathan de boyne pollard (although he requires a C++ compiler as a dependency, lol)
erlehmann: phf i hope this change flies without a vpatch, should be evident it is not malicious
phf: but that makes copy pasting harder (you can't just select a chunk, because it now includes line numbers and blame)
phf: well that was a bad example because the file is all genesis
phf: so hitting http://btcbase.org/patches/funken_prikey_tools/tree/bitcoin/src/init.h runs patch algorithm on a series of vdiffs
phf: (fwiw it has complete understanding of patch, so it can also do a press in memory, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/funken_prikey_tools/tree/)
phf: for sure, btcbase is probably the most aggressive, because there's a very restricted state machine for parsing, but there's still some ambiguity in recognition that's an artifact of diff/patch being dodgy
erlehmann: v looks like a nice approach as far as i can see (and is the reason i chose to join #trilema), but as i commented, i suspect there exist parser differentials
phf: there's a handful of those, for example in the experimental there's three patches from polarbeard, a guy who joined as we were regriding a bunch of shit, so he had to update his patches a bunch of times and then gave up. nobody cared to reintegrate his patches properly yet
erlehmann: asciilifeform do you have an opinion on DJB redo? or maybe even a simpler design? i would only trust my own implementation and MAYBE the one from jonathan de boyne pollard (although he requires a C++ compiler as a dependency, lol) ☟︎
phf: i actually patched it in the offline, but haven't had a chance to update the deployment
erlehmann: ah funny, it does not work with a slash at the end
erlehmann: phf your patch visualizer linked here http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is apparently gone
erlehmann: as a free-software enthusiast myself, i have managed to experience many invitations to “netflix and chill” entirely without netflix. freedoms preserved!
erlehmann: > A friend once asked me to watch a video with her that she was going to display on her computer using Netflix. I declined, saying that Netflix was such a threat to freedom that I felt uncomfortable with promoting its use in this way.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-16 23:36 asciilifeform: leaving entirely aside the question of whether ice40 can in fact be made to do anything useful with the 'open' toolchain discussed earlier, or whether a toolchain that required clang, llvm, and ten other poetteringesque abortions is 'open'
erlehmann: i once met rms at a conference and asked him about viability of free hardware. his answer was along the lines of 1. apparently non-free hardware has worked for decades 2. whoever makes your board can still subvert your trustworthy design, you can't check that 3. maybe if we have star-trek-style replicators one day, hahaha
a111: Logged on 2014-12-11 01:52 asciilifeform: decimation: notice that all known fpga manufacturers (xilinx, altera, lattice, a few others) have the same business model
a111: Logged on 2015-06-17 13:17 asciilifeform: you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric;
asciilifeform: i'd still like to replace it with a civilized fpga for which you don't need a 20GB closed source shitware toolchain
asciilifeform: but on the other hand it is a very small cpld, and runs a pretty simple state machine, whose honest function is verifiable by the operator with reasonable effort
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i manufacture and sell a product ( http://nosuchlabs.com/hardware.html ) with a xilinx cpld in it
erlehmann: i think it is unlikely that a non-self-built keyboard can do most things relevant to daily usage in hardware. especially layers, mod keys and compose.
erlehmann: well, in my experience it takes max. three weeks to learn a layout.
erlehmann: asciilifeform i guess you cannot control your computing experience? the answer from the boss of my boss to “can i install linux on the macbook to get a sane keyboard layout” was “got it, you get a thinkpad”
phf: well, that was a while ago (i switched back almost a decade ago), but even now more so now i spend a lot of time, working on other people's machines (i.e. developers that are stuck or need help or whatever)
erlehmann: same for OS X, apparently. my boss told me he tried to use it there and it was a pain due to something i cannot remember.
erlehmann: dear diary, yesterday a person on IRC asked me if i am jealous after i referred to ethereum as a scam again. jealous, i asked. yes, she answered, jealous of people who invest in cryptocurrencies! ☟︎
asciilifeform: holy fuq pete_dushenski , i suppose you've never taken a heat sink off before ?!
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/02/5770-flambe/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - 5770 flambé
mod6: ah, ok. can do, i did get a breadboard.
asciilifeform: mod6: another tip : when playing with fg & scope/logic analyzer, it is convenient to turn it upside-down and sink the 'teeth' into a breadboard
mircea_popescu: do you have a function like that activated ?
mircea_popescu: looks like maybe it's summed up over a sampling interval or such ?
mod6: i used the sheilds for gnd this time, feel like im learning a bit, thanks for the help.
asciilifeform: you can then use it as a manual sharp-needle-poke
asciilifeform: ( you do NOT want a long wire between ground clip and the circuit )
asciilifeform: but very much a physical limitation of your measurement setup. see above.
asciilifeform: at 14.7456MHz , your cable is a substantial parasitic capacitor ( and inductor )
asciilifeform: ( even a very clean clock, if frequency is >1MHz or so, will not look like 'ideal' square when viewed through clip probes on scope. you will see 'ringing' )
mod6: it's not a square wave tho.
mod6: i've since, just wanna look at the clock, see if i've got it hooked up right. i've got probe on channel one connected to 'clk' pin. probe's crock is attached to a lead coming off 'gnd' pin.
asciilifeform: a voltage is a potential ~difference~
mod6: mircea_popescu: just kinda takin a look at things, nothing in particular. educational.
mod6: i gotta take a pic here i think, but yah, two distinct different wave patterns.
asciilifeform: they're why a misbauded FG is nogood as an rng
mod6: im more... using it as a vehicle to learn how to scope.
asciilifeform: ( not, as you can already guess, contiguously -- but when there's a byte ready )
mod6: this scope has a usb port, so i dropped in the USB to see if I can get the output saved on there. gotta rtfm i think
mircea_popescu: self important little cunts. what the everloving fuck, "look at me, i live without a roof, WE HAVE DEPRECATED ROOVES!!11"
mircea_popescu: o i know, let's plead like a little bitch, that'll do something.
ben_vulpes: "perhaps outlawing masculinity is a bad idea?"
mircea_popescu: this per se isn't a problem.
mircea_popescu: but if i had to guess i'd say a larger % of all-wealth-controlled-by-russians belongs to "criminals" and "terrorists" than is the case of the us.
mircea_popescu: the populace had to have a clear statement of its fault, and punishment comensurate. this is what government is.
mircea_popescu: this was 1896. the REASON 1917 happened was that nicholas was a fucktard in 1896.
asciilifeform: unless yer rounding up ~defenseless gypos etc , 500kilocorpse is called 'civil war' and it doesn't come with a guarantee of win
mircea_popescu: but nicholas was just ascending, it wasn't his fucking fault alexander was a faggot.
mircea_popescu: sure, once you have 500`000 dead bodies in a pile it's time to build a new church and beg forgiveness for having let things get this far.
asciilifeform: when you have stampedes in the capital, you ( ruler/civ1player ) Have A Problem ; just as d00d with tumour that is large enough to be palpable, has problem
asciilifeform: one tricky bit, afaik, is that the proverbial sacks of gold do not 'levantar el pueblo' under any circumstances at all; instead they immediately grow legs and walk, walk away to a faraway place and never again seen
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, homebrew nationalism is ~worst thing that can happen to a country. way worse than foreign invasion.
mircea_popescu: young people are going to be stupid, this is a given. might as well deal with the naive than with the millitantly idiotic.
asciilifeform: looks like mircea_popescu's intel is a little out of date..
asciilifeform: 'On the heels of last year’s closure of chip manufacturer Intel‘s assembly plant in Costa Rica, the company announced Monday that it’s opening a new Client Computing Group (CCG) in Costa Rica. The new unit will be responsible mostly for developing tablets and PCs.' (2015)
mircea_popescu: they really don't have much of a clue. happy go lucky sort of tree dwellers.
mircea_popescu: hey, intel build a plant.
mircea_popescu: "highest level of foreign direct investment per capita of latin maerica", ie, a fine definition of whether you're poor or not is whether you have a gf here holding down a fort.
mircea_popescu: costa rica is a rich country dood. above ohio below arizona or somesuch.
asciilifeform: from where comes the dough ? usg parked a printing press down there ?
mircea_popescu: but the scandal exposed a coupla lulz, such as that the ucr spends 80% (!!!) of its income to pay salaries, and that income is ~500mn a year.
mircea_popescu: "Once again, while Trump the United States a smidge closer to The Great Again, but"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> whole piece needs a re-read, lotta e2l weird in there. << re-read v1
a111: Logged on 2017-06-02 14:17 phf: you can buy a patek philippe caliber 89 from christie's for $11m. last time it went for $5m in 2009. at that inflation rate obummer bought a 2009 $4m house, which is a reasonable upper middle for potomac apparatchiks.
phf: inflation is a dynamic process, so it's neither a scalar nor not a scalar
a111: Logged on 2015-08-22 14:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248273 << in my eyes, a ~skilled~ art forger is a hero second only to a hypothetical fella who puts an actual bullet through a bilderberger. why, exactly, should i have any sympathy for the folks hitching a ride in the only 100% effective inflation shelter known, at the expense of literally everybody else ?
asciilifeform: it is tempting to think of inflation as a scalar, but it isn't a scalar.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-02 14:17 phf: you can buy a patek philippe caliber 89 from christie's for $11m. last time it went for $5m in 2009. at that inflation rate obummer bought a 2009 $4m house, which is a reasonable upper middle for potomac apparatchiks.
asciilifeform: phf: i've been inside a bunch of these, but only on embassy expo day
phf: those houses are nifty, because built by sane people until a contractor gets to "renovate" the interior
phf: oh, i know this area, obama's neighborhood is 5 minutes walking from me, it's all old construction, so not so much a "mega-house" as a large&old dc property (apparently made from real stone!1)
phf: i've been to social events at these houses, and they are just glorified mcmansions. i was actually wondering about these mega-houses last time i recently took a trip to Fallingwater. who now among "the wealthy" is building these kaufmann residences that in 100 years time people will want to visit?
phf: you can buy a patek philippe caliber 89 from christie's for $11m. last time it went for $5m in 2009. at that inflation rate obummer bought a 2009 $4m house, which is a reasonable upper middle for potomac apparatchiks. ☟︎☟︎
trinque: yeah exactly. it's a participatory democracy of a computer, gotta expect to share
mircea_popescu: whole piece needs a re-read, lotta e2l weird in there.
BingoBoingo: One very happy contractor is now a few hundred bees richer
BingoBoingo imagines alf "porn chick" construction is a redundant labeling like "covetous Jew"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-02#1664465 << what the label says, within a coupla feet of the thing. no idea what your definition of "porn chicks" is, but the item here discussed is 15 to 30yo female, no further filters. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is not strictly speaking a "hygenic" box
asciilifeform: if you want a crypto-capable box, ditch the nvidia (and the intel)
asciilifeform: there is no opendrivered gpu worth half a shit