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asciilifeform: phf is entirely right. it is broken exactly as in the earlier '+++' case
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/PNipc/?raw=true << what phf did. for reference.
asciilifeform: what 1line would you like to replace the old 1line with ?
asciilifeform: trinque: vdiff is 1line.
asciilifeform: rather than by hand
asciilifeform: phf: i see what you did. but how would you modify vdiff to actually produce this ?
asciilifeform reads
asciilifeform: this is not a solution.
asciilifeform: i am not adding extraneous rules to ada to satisfy idiotparser.
asciilifeform: i will point out that the mpi genesis was created in oct. of 2015, when v was 2 mo. old.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideally not. this readme.txt however was made to stand alone, in a blog article, and hence contained clearsig.
asciilifeform: if i mutilate it, it will no longer verify
asciilifeform: say how ? to lose the gpg clearsig ?
asciilifeform: phf: specifically ?
asciilifeform: in the earlier FG case i 'cheated' by rejecting the use of the uuencoded blogs in the 1st place
asciilifeform: ( of 'second_cut' )
asciilifeform: phf mircea_popescu mod6 et al any of you lot want to propose wat-do in this particular case ?
asciilifeform: and i like it that way.
asciilifeform: phf: classical v does not touch these or attempt to use'em for anything.
asciilifeform: no other restriction.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they gotta ~start~ with --
asciilifeform: and quite often even '[startofline]--- foo'
asciilifeform: which also are often '[startofline]---'
asciilifeform: phf: can you come up with a pill that doesn't break ada comments ?
asciilifeform: phf: this is entirely correct. i dun see how it contradicts what i said however.
asciilifeform: a great many of them.
asciilifeform: in particular, ada comments.
asciilifeform: this will break code.
asciilifeform: i'm also allears re: what a Properly Made vdiff oughta do. 'replace with ===' is not an answer, it simply creates a new magic death word, ===.
asciilifeform: ( instead it can only eat ones that dun contain '---' and '+++' and possibly other boojums )
asciilifeform: i'm all ears, phf . but my current understanding is that the problem is in that vdiff cannot eat arbitrary 7bitclean ascii files.
asciilifeform: phf: hm?
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596657 and originally http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581502 ) ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: !#s +++
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747672 << correct. same item as : ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747657 << this wouldn't fix the problem, only move it. thinkaboutit. inband signalling sux. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i get same result as with mod6's vtron
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747668 << does not in fact work on my box ☝︎
asciilifeform brb forrealz
asciilifeform: *apparently
asciilifeform: ( clearsigs, to be exact . )
asciilifeform brb, fresh air
asciilifeform: some texts cannot be (!) vdiffed, for so long as we use unix diff; these appearently include gpg sigs
asciilifeform: i recall a similar boojum in my 1st attempt at the FG release, that time it was a '+++' inside a uuencoded blob
asciilifeform: ( observe that the sha512 sums of the readme in 'a' and 'b' match the ones given in the vpatch. but unix patch cannot actually make the patch happen. )
asciilifeform: the sad part is that i have nfi how to cure this , it is a consequence of using unix diff ( with in-band signal ) to begin with.
asciilifeform: i will not spoil the surprise , folx who look in the tarball will see what the caltrop was.
asciilifeform: there was no mistake in asciilifeform's procedure for baking the item. second_cut is in fact a patch, not a genesis, asciilifeform spoke hastily. there is also no bug in mod6's vtron, or in asciilifeform's. diana_coman did not make a mistake.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/wtf.tar.gz
asciilifeform: i'ma tar it up and let people replicate
asciilifeform: because i think i may have found a bug in diff
asciilifeform: i'ma double-chexk this before running mouth...
asciilifeform: hey folx
asciilifeform brb
asciilifeform: or hm nm
asciilifeform: AND http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tpDxG/?raw=true
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/RP2TH/?raw=true
asciilifeform: i broke 'second cut' into patchons, and found :
asciilifeform: ok this is pretty strange:
asciilifeform: now to see which finger...
asciilifeform: this is not the 1st time i plugged a finger into 220v. the breaker, i will however point out -- worked
asciilifeform: and i oughta properly read yer vtron, mod6 .
asciilifeform: now i'ma go and get the mop, pick up the liquishit, brb.
asciilifeform: 'schrodinger's worx'
asciilifeform: if not tried -- wrong to say that it worx.
asciilifeform: serves me right.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at any rate, mod6 is right , i'ma have to regrind the 2nd patch. and also stuck , deservedly, with the chore of demonstrating that the payloads are unaltered.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 9 of 10 occasions it is somebody else's bug!1
asciilifeform: the bigger problem is that nobody noticed.
asciilifeform: but a genesis . all of the antecedents are 'false'
asciilifeform: the second_cut on my www -- is not a proper patch at all
asciilifeform: phf how the hell did this get eaten by your vtron
asciilifeform: how come nobody bothered to look at second_cut with naked eye ?
asciilifeform: ok this is pretty sad
asciilifeform: ( the two README are bitwise-identical )
asciilifeform: now trying to find why !
asciilifeform: confirmed barf on readme
asciilifeform: ( patches themselves are never hashed , aside from by gpg when verifying sig )
asciilifeform: mod6: in this case asciilifeform is quite puzzled why it appears to need a regrind; none of the file hashes should have changed
asciilifeform: at this point i'm quite curious re what gives
asciilifeform: either diana_coman's or mod6's barfamatic set
asciilifeform: now where's that tarball
asciilifeform back
asciilifeform brb, teatime.
asciilifeform: whole thing, as before.
asciilifeform: plox to tar it up and post ?
asciilifeform: make a fresh working set, with no failed-press residue, and you will get a working press.
asciilifeform: which it itself afterwards fails on
asciilifeform: it stops mid-press and leaves liquishit
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , both of you appear to be suffering from mod6's barfolade-leaving vtron
asciilifeform: ( and fwiw phf pressed and built the demo year+ ago )
asciilifeform: what means 'finished', it's a spoil of war artifact.
asciilifeform: and so is the rest of it!
asciilifeform: just as they ought to be
asciilifeform: and they are bitwise identical
asciilifeform: and diffed the READMEs
asciilifeform: whereas i just now 'pressed' the old and the new genesis with plain old patch -p1 < old and patch -p1 < new
asciilifeform: yes!!!
asciilifeform: ( i.e. the text in 'UPDATE #1' )
asciilifeform: it does not appear in either the original genesis, nor the regrind, see for yourself.