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phillipsjk: I think it would be useful to be be able to resign patches after running a computer-assisted proof checker )or just test cases) against them.
mircea_popescu: mmm am i doing this baxwards ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aww i was gonna check this lost key thing
phillipsjk: That is why I said the concern may be orthogonal. Lost keys are a concern.
phillipsjk: I believe code should be proven correct, so that abstraction leakage does not bite you in the ass.
mircea_popescu: well, just as soon as you can be specific re that fragility, i'm, all ears.
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, they bought up CAvirtex, that is why I am getting e-mail.
phillipsjk: I found the concept of V interesting. I worry it may have hidden fragility though. I may port it to BSD when I have time.
mircea_popescu: i've been sitting here trying to recall which irrelevant scam "exchange" kraken is, can't really come up with much. was in the one the tradehills scammers made in their doomed but cheeky attempt to "come back" the usual coupla years later ? or was the one named after a pirate-era mpoe-pr post ?
mircea_popescu: ah i see.
mircea_popescu: but then at once i told myself -- no, transaction fees are definitely having an effect!
mircea_popescu: at first, when i received your letter, i at once said : surely, transaction fees are having an effect.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-06 00:00 mircea_popescu: "this is, without a doubt, the worst resume i have ever seen."
phillipsjk: maybe I can find it in the logs...
phillipsjk: I am the one with the horrible resume.
phillipsjk: changed channels, I see.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. disk can be a tele-operated item in exactly same way as nic. )
asciilifeform: ( i had a pogo going like this for a while )
asciilifeform: re os : i've observed before , that the only peripheral that unconditionally ~must~ work, is rs232 port.
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded.
mircea_popescu: yes, but so far i am rather impressed with the demonstrated interop.
mircea_popescu: in general, seems dos model is the winner. i dunno wtf unix is even supposed to be, honestly.
asciilifeform: in other 3-years-and-continuing lulz, https://archive.is/kGc6w >> '...I've been trying to build these style tools for around 10 years, on and off, and they have never built correctly for these targets and any attempt to put in a bug report about it is a waste of time as someone comes along states it works and closes it, even though it doesn't.'
jurov: it needs "yes i am sure" ioctl
mod6: this whole year has been nuts. i feel like im constantly behind. all that stuff with my mom just sucked up so much time.
mod6: na, not quite that long. it ~has~ been at least since xmas or so since I popped in last tho.
mircea_popescu: ah i saw lel. how long has it been for you, 2 years now ?
asciilifeform: relatedly, at one point i considered a FG add-on that'd turn it into a ps/2 'keyboard' eternally pissing out, e.g., d0bc05f466024f14... which, e.g., xxd will happily eat & turn into binariola
mircea_popescu: basically it's the eternal culture shock. "i protest that this tmsr item is ideologically incompatible with the shitempire i inhabit" "blow it out your ass" "TERRORISM!"
mircea_popescu: i suppose "driver" in context might mean a kernel patch to feed /random from fg
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> might as well ask the kfc colonel his professional opinion re fort sumter. << "Lincoln was a war criminal" is the response I got
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea.
mircea_popescu: and here i sat and thought naively that open source is all about "hey, i perceive the need for these so called drivers, item dun has them, I WILL MAKE MYSELF"
mircea_popescu still can't forget the "i have a laptop that doesn't exist" bs.
asciilifeform: the altalena thing still , i'm told, smoulders, there are folx who have not forgotten the replacement of terrorist-republic-israel with usg-alt-israel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, is why i posted it
shinohai: !~later tell pete_dushenski Tested your patch, built fine, running on the dev box as I write this.
mod6: i got it to work lastnight, but im not satisfied with it yet.
mod6: and I started working on ticket #36 for trb, possible move of the deps folder for trb
mircea_popescu: i'd rather teach sheep torah.
mircea_popescu: given the current state of the rot i'd prolly convict 2/3 "law enforcement" 1/3 private citizens.
mircea_popescu: if i were a judge i'd throw the book at this so-called "government" so help me. lie to me do one month in the can, no questions asked. so if it takes fifty da's it'll take fifty da's.
shinohai: ikr? I saw that item yesterday but didn't seem Qntrable to me as the "scam" appeared to be related to the Ethereum network self-DDoS.
shinohai: This is obviously a step above - I'm willing to bet all passwords are secured with military grade encryption too, since they are so professional.
BingoBoingo: Many times there were beggars, many times I was drunk. It is a miracle I remember as much as I do.
mircea_popescu: i would say the last jew with an actuallyt functioning noggin died pre 1900.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect most of them really wanted to go shopping.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i dunno that i'd take the wailing and whining of ronin women discussing the men into account
asciilifeform: there is a pov that irgun was british-infested even earlier, though, and 'lehi' was the tru-fork. but i do not have a deep enough picture of the period events to say if.
asciilifeform: i still dun get m. begin's pov. ordered his men to surrender and join idf! and had the auctoritas that... they did
mircea_popescu: i get lost in that pot with some regularity too
mod6: i like how searching the logs for a word like 'stochastic' can lead me down 2012 memory lane
mod6: 717 lbs. "I'm healthy, lemme eat 15" pizza to destroy the patriarchy!"
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: i'll add a quotulator, it's been on my backburner for a while << ok cool! no hurry
mircea_popescu: send them to pick garbage on highway side for a coupla weeks for their impure thoughts, i say
mircea_popescu: why they spend so much time trying to imagine that on the company dime is nobody's line of inquiry, i expect.
mircea_popescu: this is lulzily reminiscent of the weabo thing sina dug up yest. it's easy enough, from the tard perspective, to go "hey, i live in canada, mp lives in romania, basically the same thing yes ?" but then a few years go by, during which mp has lived in argentina and costa rica, and well... suddenly it's not nearly all that similar anymore.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669139 << i thought the prediction was to be for the exact opposite occuring. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 16:17 phf: asciilifeform: so right now, if you click in the little up arrow, it'll take you to the location in btcbase. i think i might've disabled link substitution at some point on account of it being a subtle log manipulation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669131 << it's a thorny bush, but i'm with alf : as long as the TEXT reads historically accurate, where the text links can be up to your implementation. person doesn't like where you direct the links, the historicval original is one copy/paste op away. ☝︎
phf: right now i have a handful of hacky python scripts that simply proxy /mkj/yyyymmdd and /bvulpes/yyyymmdd. they return dates in kako format, but parse html using pyquery.
ben_vulpes: mod6: i'll add a quotulator, it's been on my backburner for a while
mircea_popescu: and i mean that, literally.
phf: i think it would be handy if loggers supported web export in kako format over some alternative url. so you could for example say http://bvulpes/log?format=kako&date=2016-01-01 and that'll give you id;ts;nick;message plain text. think i'll write a proposal for it
mircea_popescu: then winter fucking came, and there they sat under the snow, green and preppy as everything. and i was googling for home version flamethrowers, for you know, insurance just in case like.
mircea_popescu: i have a lot of sympathy. because my fucking artichokes grew like 2.5 m tall.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i stand excused.
mircea_popescu: i imagine somewhere deep down they'll expect i'll come to believe this is my fault, or something. weirdo socialist shifthink.
phf: i kind of want to take a stab at doing a common lisp text only client, but i think i lost my password again, and i'm too embarrassed to ask for another recovery........
asciilifeform: phf: i'd doubt that the existing open sores turd would do the job ( esp how 'render without gpu' is a more or less entirely untested component, 'everyone has gpu!111' etc )
phf: i think crystal space already supports limited software rendering, but figuring out how to properly enable it seems to be not for the faint of heart
asciilifeform: phf: i know very little re eulora design process, but did assume that mircea_popescu et al deliberately put in a polygon count limit, and that the logic was approx like this.
trinque: I know that pain, difficult process
mod6: ah. yeah, well, eitherway - i appreciate the guidence.
asciilifeform: mod6: i was actually thinking moar of own experience with it, than yours
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i saw trims of that in the logs lol.
asciilifeform: i've found that teaching ada to c programmer is almost a miniature course in subj
mircea_popescu: but presenting cogently and in a tight package the man-monkey difference can't possibly hurt the recent escapee off the "i can't believe it's not plato's" cave.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly as phf describes, there's a certain drag/lift factor in work being done. have you noticed how effort allocation tends to follow "what's happening" more than "i've though about this" ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose old taco bell wrappers rolled up.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc << AHA, marlinspike presented as "hippie recreational sailor"
asciilifeform: it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc
mircea_popescu: aww, just as i was sitting down to read the man's twitter, turns out it is "protected". scam!
mircea_popescu: also, scamtitle, i read "breasts".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1668882 << don't ever go to the third world, btw. every girl aspires to learn "criminology" at umd and every boy http://trilema.com/2013/i-dont-no-biari-i-know-a-littel-java/ ☝︎
shinohai: I invited her here to !~tits, so far no reply to my email >>> http://archive.is/ycQBG
phf: a111 can easily speak on behalf of any of the logger, because i need to parse other loggers to keep the xref facility consistent. for political reasons, a111 only speaks for own logs, but it ~knows~ at the time of utterance where the link is supposed to go to
trinque: heh, wasn't there a time when deedbot chattered for pages all by itself? I vaguely recall
phf: fwiw i need to add ben_vulpes's links to btcbase anyway, because it also breaks xref facility
mod6: sure. i suppose so. i presently feel bad when pasting in links from logs.bv since it doesn't get auto-parsed.
mod6: Speaking of l0gz requests... i have a bot request...
phf: fwiw, i'm not parsing search, so it'll only map in the simplest cases (though your specific example works)
phf: asciilifeform: so right now, if you click in the little up arrow, it'll take you to the location in btcbase. i think i might've disabled link substitution at some point on account of it being a subtle log manipulation ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: give me an example from log, because the way i understand that request, it should already be working
asciilifeform: 'It only claims to "limit" the side-channel leaks. I don't know how serious this is...'
phf: tis the season of naked girls in the woods festivals, i must therefore oblige
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669058 >> this is a lulzgem, 'I also tested BN_mod_exp_mont_consttime from OpenSSL since that's a large function which calls functions from several other files. It turns out not to be constant time! There's a secret dependent memory access...' ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: the thing i repeatedly caution folx against, is to do anything that might result in the existence of vpatches which require tools ~other than v~ to fit-in-head/operate on.
asciilifeform: i use git and similar extensively ~in house~
phf: oh word. i even remember that thread, but it didn't stick