asciilifeform: eagle eye.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the useless line will be thrown out, and diana_coman will be credited in the next mailbag.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: you're quite right!!

asciilifeform looks

asciilifeform: oh hey diana_coman

asciilifeform is addressing this mainly to folx who ~already~ took the time.

asciilifeform: )

asciilifeform: do the exercises ( where i marked 'if you do not fully get this, get out a notebook and pencil ' etc 0

asciilifeform: read, nitpick aggressively, build and run

asciilifeform: incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing ☟︎

asciilifeform: in other lulz, ffa series has been very, very, well... loaded? ( 'read' is not the word, i have nfi if anybody other than apeloyee read it )

asciilifeform: let's say, 2-3x cheaper than similar item in usa, supposing one knew where in usa one could even find it.

asciilifeform: astonishing price.

asciilifeform: ( from what animal ? who can say. but -- natural product. )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform came back from ro with some astonishingly decent fur hats.

asciilifeform: today we learn mircea_popescu does not wear a chapeau claque!111

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: surely you can tell leather from vinyl with naked eye / finger

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as far as i can see , linked turd is entirely 'hey let's try and make paper-btc the way we did paper-au' usg gambit

asciilifeform: 'that battleship! 500GWives'

asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-15#1238626 and elsewhere. subj beaten entirely to death. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: not that 1 more, or 1 less trojan is particularly meaningful on a microshit box

asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654582 ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: in related lulz, https://archive.is/B8lQp << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376 ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: neato

asciilifeform: ( you gotta cure the probes, naturally, with sage_pill . but no soldering needed )

asciilifeform: those are usable out-of-the-box

asciilifeform: mats: didja solder in the sage header ?

asciilifeform: http://pcengines.ch/howto.htm#coreboot << found it.

asciilifeform: and ideally get several, they are getting scarce.

asciilifeform: if yer getting an apu1, mats , go straight for the apu1d4 .

asciilifeform: i'ma have to clean up and genesis mine. pretty heavy chore, it is full of extraneous matter.

asciilifeform: oh hah it's gone innit.

asciilifeform: there is ( or was ? ) a tarball on the vendor's www.

asciilifeform: do which

asciilifeform: unless yer kernel is monstrously fat ( and why would it be ) -- it'll sit down in the rom.

asciilifeform: but it isn't mandatory.

asciilifeform: and given as it uses linuxbios (coreboot) exclusively ( there was in fact no turdware bios afaik ever released for'em at all ) it makes it inviting to stuff the kernel into rom

asciilifeform: mats: not specifically. it's a standard opteron, with the exception of no vga. ( use serial console. )

asciilifeform: ( not, at any rate, publicly . )

asciilifeform: nobody's properly reversed damn near anything

asciilifeform: or southbridge. or or or.

asciilifeform: or for that matter disk

asciilifeform: afaik not it, and not any other disk controller either

asciilifeform: or is mats asking whether anyone's reversed the thing down to transistor ? or wat

asciilifeform: document means what ? i've been using'em in gentoo boxes for decade+, fwiw.

asciilifeform: mats: more specifically ?

asciilifeform: mats: 3ware . ( afaik nobody else has ever made an iron raid that worked half a shit's worth )

asciilifeform: in other noose, turned up that the pilot opterons in asciilifeform's torture room have a disappointing onboard raid that supports only sata2 (3Gb/s). upgrading'em with sata3 raidtrons (6Gb/s)

asciilifeform: ( pcengines apu1 is ~the~ x86 fiddling platform as it has the magic sage port )

asciilifeform: so nao canhaz e.g. 'packet processor in asm on pcengines' and similar items from old threads.

asciilifeform: *than from

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749334 << found, to be clear, archaeologically, from the rdos thing, rather han from clever reversing ☝︎

asciilifeform: wasn't ben_vulpes's chix a 'imdb-profiled' notable ?

asciilifeform: !#s realtek

asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found the seekrit of realtek nic init

asciilifeform: !!up nocko

asciilifeform: i386 hardware is still used, and it has got more features, bigger caches etc., during this time, which may increase code size.'

asciilifeform: 'I have built a NetBSD release from trunk 1 January each year 2002–2016 ... I built i386 (which is the NetBSD name for x86, even though it does not support i386 CPUs any longer) and sun3. The reason I choose them is that they represent two extremes of architectures — sun3 is a hardware platform that was obsolete already in the mid-nineties, so software size "should not" increase for it unless new functionality is added, while the

asciilifeform: in other oldies, elsewhere, in bloatology : https://archive.is/Yt92E << '20 years of NetBSD code bloat' . with chart.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other oddities, http://www.rdos.net/rdos

asciilifeform: !!up fromloper

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-10#1749266 << asciilifeform has been chewing on this conundrum for a while. the inevitable pill is a minimal ( see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736844 ) but reasonable microscopic interpreter ( likely schemelike ) in asm; and from it, to climb back up. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: 'oh here's something that looks like a proggy. let's all stand next to it and opine.'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-10#1749251 << this is probably it. ☝︎

asciilifeform: they mostly stick to their own heathen-pits.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-10#1749249 << 0 paramecium dropping in the ffaseries comments thus far ☝︎

asciilifeform: that's a first. this was on the ppc? or on pc?

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: ( i don't know of any particular reason to spit on it )

asciilifeform: alternatively you can use adacore's item.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you want to use gcc's gnat, you gotta get old ( 2016 and earlier oughta work ) tarball manually, and build; or obtain the 'obsolete' gentoo ebuild.

asciilifeform: ( the building can happen, however , on any box having a working gnat of whatever type )

asciilifeform: the sad fact re gnat is that there is no known way to build a gnat without an existing (built) gnat. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i thought ben_vulpes had a ppc thing

asciilifeform: no exotic archs tho

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: reproducing everybody's travails

asciilifeform: in other noose, ALL of the 'livedvd' on gentoo's ftp appear to contain poetteringolade ( boots into gui horror, with systemd, 'networkmanager'-at-boot, etc. )

asciilifeform: clambodile: please get an irc bouncer , or lurk by reading the logs. join/part spamola is not welcome

asciilifeform: !!up clambodile

asciilifeform realized not long ago that he's quite ready to pay considerably 'more' in fiatola for a hypothetical item that is also-sold for btc , on account of the difficulty of replenishing the latter

asciilifeform: possibly folx are less reluctant to part with fiatola than good old coinz

asciilifeform: oh hey notbad biznis danielpbarron has.

asciilifeform: err

asciilifeform: !!up BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: !~later tell trinque is your musltronic gentoo recipe posted anywhere ?

asciilifeform: i mean it is also expensive compared to children's tricycle. but how about comparing similar items..

asciilifeform: link ?

asciilifeform: someone sells an auditable trng called ps4 ?

asciilifeform: izabera: i gotta bite : compared to what ?

asciilifeform: 0.0395 is the current. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 100 was just the first batch ( which sold out last yr )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun think we ever published the exact #. although folx oughta be able to arithmetize.

asciilifeform: izabera: try asking dell how many servers he sold ?

asciilifeform: izabera: the unit is very much still available.

asciilifeform: ohai izabera . are you a customer ?

asciilifeform fiddles with serverz. the noise -- abominable

asciilifeform: dunno, how about they pick up rubbish with bare hands, like in india.

asciilifeform: this time took a peek after all, to see 'are the hannoboecks still on duty'. answ: they are.

asciilifeform these days finds it hard to muster the givingashit to even follow up on 'was linked from shitpit!11' much of the time

asciilifeform: hm possibly yea