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shinohai: "Anything to declare?" "Well I have this scrap of fabric from one of Ollie North's uniforms. It is critical for the séance"
shinohai: "I want to see if I can call up the spirit of Manuel Noriega!"
js-of-mp: hm, that\s a point, i guess trailer park = government buildings huh. certainly the way it works in the us-liberated terra obscura.
js-of-mp: and i've not even visited the trailer park yet.
js-of-mp: incidentally, you'd like it here. i've seen more barefoot females in the past day than during a whole week of south carolina.
js-of-mp: no, that's outdoors. i'm indoors. because dried plant matter totally counts yes.
js-of-mp: this shit is addictive btw, anyone noticed ? i had to have them cut out a patch of jungle overnight and there's six confused locals holding up strange religious artefacts, just so i can catch up on logs
Framedragger: i find one-off related notes like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541283 only thus far ☝︎
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: i recall a thread on the tradeoffs of this approach, do you recall? link perhaps?
mod6: i've got some testing for you if you want... probably a bit later today.
pete_dushenski: at least i like it. always wondered what versions were connecting to trb nodes before.
trinque: reminds me, I haven't tried your getpeerinfo patch yet
trinque: I don't see any reason to do that.
pete_dushenski: if alf isn't the exception, trinque is more than welcome to remove contravex from deedbot blogroll. i won't be offended even if i do look forward to the comments here, be they negative or positive.
trinque: I knew that pantsuit grandmother had something to do with it.
asciilifeform: sometimes people write to asciilifeform , 'you're a bore and pompous arse', but fwiw i have to date 0 posts about dieting. or about Eating Eggs While 3133337.
asciilifeform: and holy shit pete_dushenski... that post. i'ma guess you are writing these on a bet
asciilifeform: phf: i'm sure
asciilifeform: ( which in asciilifeform's case was ' can crypto be put on a hard scientific foundation - i.e. does a provably hard problem exist )
asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins ☟︎
asciilifeform: i actually did try to read'im
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice ☝︎☟︎
whaack: from what I remember reading about shitfinex, the people with pending bitcoin buy orders at X did not get theirs completed, while at the same time people were forced to sell ("margin called") because price was officially "X-E"
asciilifeform: it's sop, as i understand, method for 'exchange' to defraud the idiots who use exchanges.
erlehmann: i'll read the log again to maybe get a clear picture
trinque: put usually around here as "I just want to"
trinque: "I don't care" is the correct answer.
trinque: then I ask you what the output of all your "the community" and "class not race" noise has been, in your own judgment?
erlehmann: i mean, err, discussion.
erlehmann: oh, i enjoy conflict.
trinque: the republic's forum is not "I will posture on whichever topics don't make me uncomfortable"
erlehmann: trinque i don't actually want to have a conversation about invasion, because i don't particularly care. i came here because of the v versionatron and because i liked the attitude behind that.
trinque: erlehmann: where do I upvote your quips?
erlehmann: ben_vulpes i think identifying as trans-black or something might top it, depending on circumstances
ben_vulpes: trinque: oh hey while on the topic, best way to wind up modern genderbenders, blacklivesmatter et al feebs is to "i mean sure, but isn't that all just embedded in the class struggle?"
trinque: "I don't want to have a conversation re: invasion, so lets instead belabor whether we're all behaving ourselves."
Framedragger: actually, i had started reading that one, too!!
Framedragger: i *think* http://ymarkov.livejournal.com/280578.html , digging thru bookmarks
Framedragger: erlehmann: i mean, old wise men decide faith of orcs, yeah :D
trinque: I'm still eagerly awaiting a description of these roving gangs of car burners. ☟︎
erlehmann: Framedragger i actually meant “i had not noticed to that extent until now how tolkien tells a story that can be seen as a race war”
erlehmann: e.g. i rarely encounter black people when going to the supermarket
erlehmann: fact of the matter is i have not enough reference points
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> plenty of folks quite content living their frugal lives (in e.g. leipzig, from what i hear, to be particular), i guess #t doesn't think much of them, i happen to have friends, what do. if bitch at 5% rent increase, sure, not much sympathy from me << Better to be frugal and not poor
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i enjoy a number of things, from turkish military marches to turkish sweets. but it is different q from 'do i want the bottom economic 10% of turkey moving in next door' ☟︎
erlehmann: asciilifeform i enjoy turkish and kurdish food, but otherwise, no idea.
erlehmann: asciilifeform i spent years of my youth in a remote boarding school inside an old monastery building. not many turks or africans there.
erlehmann: well, i think when i arrive people often tend to think i want to convince them of something. i often do not want and do not care as much as other think i do.
trinque: I think when I arrived I thought the place was a bunch of red-pillers
Framedragger: rehashing *conclusions* of tmsr dogma does not do much good. (i guess counter to that is "we don't have time for proper free education", which is fair). ☟︎
trinque: and now I'm racis
erlehmann: i think it is fairly plausible that the description of “orcs” can be read as some kind of blatant racism – “black-skinned”, “brutish”, “slant-eyed” … ☟︎
asciilifeform: i have nfi what is the 3rd stage. but i suspect that it looks like detroit -- which in turn, looked like berlin in '45
asciilifeform: the second stage of this cancer is when market begins to segment SOLELY based on orc proximity -- i.e. your house costs moar, or less, ~strictly based on how much orc you are willing to tolerate in everyday life, and not, say, based on size, or whether it is made from brick or shitboard ☟︎
asciilifeform: erlehmann: there is an american-'patented' style of rent-seeking scam that is now being 'enjoyed' in europe, incl., as i understand, in your berlin. which goes like this : 1) import a horde of raping, pillaging orcs from some fuckhole 2) prohibit 'discrimination' against'em. now the only permitted means of excluding them from being your neighbours is... price. 3) landlords rake in the dough, because now you gotta pay not only for ove
erlehmann: if you understand german, i can recommend this about gentrification (from 2010) https://www.kuechenstud.io/kuechenradio/episode/kr268-gentrifizierung/
trinque: "I chose this" is I suppose one way to cope with the dick buried in your ass.
trinque: erlehmann: please bridge the gap for me between "country that is welcoming a flood of foreign invaders" and "omg haet tourists, I'll torch your car" ☟︎
lobbes: ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live << I grew up on The Cod in Massachusetts; "working class" locals were always bitching about how much they hated tourists, but that tourism $$$ is the ~only~ thing sustaining that particular sandbar. Fishing is dead, and retail and landscaping indus ☟︎
ben_vulpes: eh i don't see how "stop bitching about problems you can trivially solve without involving the state eg rent control, try moving to a neighborhood as shitty as this one was two decades ago when you crept in" is quite "slice lengthwise"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673487 << i find it lulzy that folx will happily say this to someone to whom they would ~not~ necessarily say 'kill yerself nao, slice lengthwise' . but at the same time the phrases have EQUIVALENT meaning, because at some point you are already as rich as you possibly know how to become. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
erlehmann: i'd also avoid berlin hacker gatherings
Framedragger: yeah i guess that's basically 50% of berlin (*dodge*)
erlehmann: as i said: as a tourist, i probably would not choose airbnb in berlin. reason is that the strategy is working. less stressful to book hotel room or hostel.
Framedragger: plenty of folks quite content living their frugal lives (in e.g. leipzig, from what i hear, to be particular), i guess #t doesn't think much of them, i happen to have friends, what do. if bitch at 5% rent increase, sure, not much sympathy from me
ben_vulpes: "but i'm poor and nobody taught me that rents usually go up and now my living expenses and rent max out my income!"
erlehmann: i think it is not about rent per se. it is about long-term renting.
trinque: no. I mean if they were free of the terribru rent oppression what human flourishing would sprout in their place?
erlehmann: so i guess motivation is low
erlehmann: but i also don't have airnbn next door
erlehmann: joke's on you, i don't do such stuff
erlehmann: let's say i heard stories. or saw stuff. who knows!
erlehmann: i could not possibly comment on that
Framedragger: any personal experiences there? i've heard of "frozen piss" bomb concept, yeah ☟︎
erlehmann: by passion, i mean: some door locks are faulty and seem to spontaneously fail in the middle of the night, when you come back to the ap. ☟︎
Framedragger: (or well, maybe i'm misusing the term) ☟︎
Framedragger: erlehmann: girl says "wtf, plz to elaborate" :D is that due to high degree of scams, or just the high possibility of misunderstandings? (only time i used airbnb was in morocco, but that was planned well in advance, and kinda-vetted place)
erlehmann: i have a single, very important berlin tourism tip. avoid airbnb (and similar things) to the strongest extent possible. there are only a few faster ways to make enemies, like putting on a police uniform and visiting rigaer straße alone in the middle of the night.
Framedragger: erlehmann: i've been to c-base a coupla times, curious if there are any hackerspaces which are less about showing off and more about actual DIY projects etc (not sure if can meaningfully interact in the span of only a week tho, i guess) ☟︎
Framedragger: funny thing is i'm not really into raves. at the same time i have a pile of high quality mdma that i now need to dispose of, because changing country. so who knows ☟︎
Framedragger: good point, i'll get back to you later. it's not a well-defined request/problem in my mind. "shit to do at night in kreuzberg / east berlin" would count, including rave parties (sounds teenage-ish when i put it like that heh)
erlehmann: Framedragger i can give advice, but first specify what kind of advice
danielpbarron: and the way i'm writing it up, it's also a crash course on how to gentoo in general
Framedragger: erlehmann: question #3 -- any recommendations for what to do in berlin in july? i'll be there with a few friends from 5 july (may travel to leipzig), random recommendations welcome (we'll visit the nsa tower/hill, etc)
Framedragger: i see map generators, but that's something else, i assume the subgame thing is the way towards the "generalized"/"arbitrary"
Framedragger: erlehmann: i like my voxels, looks nice... generalized CA, as in, you can run arbitrary programs in the space (or somesuch)?
mod6: i misspell a lot of things too. so there' that.
erlehmann: mod6 sorry then i assumed the latter (even though the keys are right next to each other)
erlehmann: asciilifeform what do you use as shell? i use rc shell, because grammar fits in head (actually, grammar is written on man page).
erlehmann: it's not? most i3 users have no use for draggable windows. the maemo wm (i forgot its name) also has none.
asciilifeform: mod6: i have a mouse
mod6: <+asciilifeform> if answer to either 1, 2, or both, is 'yes' -- asciilifeform won't use. << wait... i thought you were big on a workstation that you could use... but this doesn't include a mouse?
erlehmann: i see
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i dun need this 'can' for anything.
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i'm not an aficionado of plan9 -- but for quite unrelated reasons
asciilifeform: https://i3wm.org/screenshots << i see FUCKING WINDOW DECORATIONS
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: ever try 'ratpoison' ? << yeah, i still need to try this
ben_vulpes: erlehmann: looks like something i'd have to learn in addition to emacs
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: neat recommendation; i'm working with an abortion called 'exwm' for now << ah ok. this is all emacs related eh?