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asciilifeform: if a vpatch refers to a hash of a nonexistent file, the process stops.

erlehmann: i was of the impression that it presses a specific view of the world out of a) source code b) patches c) wot

asciilifeform: so intel shat out ht, aka 'i can't believe it's not a cpu core'

asciilifeform: even on chips where it did not cause halt-and-catch-fire, it was always a sort of hardware equivalent of ye olde 'ramdoubler' scamola -- 'make luser think he has 2x the cores'

asciilifeform: erlehmann: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674460 << 'redo' is theoretically neat ( at least when compared to gnumake ) but - and i studied it, since you last mentioned it - it strikes me as a near-miss attempt to invent 'v' ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( https://archive.is/Tr9PF , linked within, also interesting : 'Led by IS&T’s vice president, John Charles, the ambitious reorganization began in February 2015 and aims to spur innovation through agile software development practices adopted from industry. Charles emphasizes that this is not a typical reorganization, but rather a complete transformation of MIT’s IT department. ... Many longtime employees have resigned ... Charles,

asciilifeform: until IS&T suddenly and unceremoniously decided to renumber all of campus onto a private, NAT'd address space. Some buildings have already been migrated, with same-day notice, causing outages of services hosted in those buildings.'

asciilifeform: 'Ever since IS&T started to undergo "The Transformation", there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt to change Computing at MIT for the worse. Services that have been relied on for years have been discontinued and turned down, frequently without notice. Infrastructure critical to running MIT has been outsourced to cloud services during "emergency maintenance". Most of these changes had minimal impact on students and faculty, ☟︎

trinque: didn't a (temporarily) flying one catch fire the other week?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674428 << fwiw i carefully read all of it. asciilifeform's verdict: very much a gabriel_laddel-ization of gossipd. does 0 of the necessary work, and drags in 5+GB of liquishit deps (python, sql, some derp's crypto lib.) the amount of this that would have to be rewritten, from the ground, is 100%. not even useful as illustration of anything, because NONE of the actually complicated moving parts of a ☝︎☟︎

mod6: ok, np. there are a matrix of tests that can be extrapolated from the doc.

mod6: <+shinohai> Not bad mod6 .... want to get with you later this evening on the new Makefiles thing if you have a few minutes to spare << sure thing. did you get to try it out?

BingoBoingo: In not news, Buttstamp now introduce Litecoin trading to two cans and a string too

erlehmann: it has cmake scripts and a makefile

erlehmann: shinohai for a massive real-world C++ workload, build https://github.com/linleyh/liberation-circuit

erlehmann: i have yet to see a build system that can do so much in so few lines of code

erlehmann: if your build-system is not recording two dozen dependency relationship for a simple hello world program, it is pretty much a non-build-system

shinohai: Not bad mod6 .... want to get with you later this evening on the new Makefiles thing if you have a few minutes to spare

sina: hope you have a nice day

sina: erlehmann: I do hope to be able to code a naughty host counter up, still thinking about that

sina: erlehmann: for example https://github.com/sinner-/gossipd/blob/master/gossipd/cmd/gossipc.py#L68 ...it throws an error if you try to add a peer before an RSA key is available

a111: Logged on 2017-06-26 09:59 sina: it's still a little rough around the edges so you can break it pretty easily if you disconnect during a session or send bad data or whatever like that.

erlehmann: sina have you checked all your input against a formal grammar today? ☟︎

sina: it's still a little rough around the edges so you can break it pretty easily if you disconnect during a session or send bad data or whatever like that. ☟︎

sina: alright. the gossipd thingo is 0.0.1 implemented. peers can communicate, each session (fetch messages) is mediated by deedbot style OTP with per peer-pair RSA keys (no GPG shell asciilifeform, using libtomcrypt). I wrote a tiny client to add peers, exchange keys, broadcast msgs and view stored msgs. there is a README.

BingoBoingo: Or as an alternative there's a number of new manufacter 2-cycle scooters which do not require registration due to various "moped" exemptions. Needs to be under 50cc displacement which means riding machine with 1/4 of a lawnmower engine or twice a string trimmer engine.

ben_vulpes: on the "laptops suck" thread, now that i'm using an adult workstation most of the time, my hands start hurting after a bare thirty minutes on a 13" laptop kb ☟︎

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674280 << don't forget that you can put a holy 2-stroke in the secret apu slot of the slavecycle at the ghetto craft table and walk away with the prized freedombike! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-03-01 03:53 asciilifeform: mats: the idea is, a kind of line-speed (GB ethernet) wall, where crud goes in, and valid in-wot gossipd out.

a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 16:07 mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes' thingee dun read outloud huh. also the windows original product keys are a little lengthy.

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673500 << most folks who bitch in the manner of "oh noes, rising rents and stagnant wages" have not meaningfully pursued higher wages. not a matter of "rich as know how to get" but "thought this rich was enough forever" which is very foolish. ☝︎

sina: it's almost as if being a homosexual has nothing to do with your political orientation :P

sina: TL;DR, Russian gay activist who triggered crackdown/kidnap/murder on gay people in Chechnya (aside from a bunch of other stupid shit) is also very anti-semite

BingoBoingo: ISRAELJERUSALEMGAYPARADE An Israeli woman draped with a rainbow gay pride flag with the Star of David walks past Israeli border policemen during the annual Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade on July 21, 2016.

sina: or should it be a three-phase thing where 1. each peer advertises their name/host/port to the other 2. each receives the others pubkey 3. adds it to the peer info

sina: any thoughts? does that even make sense? basically it's caused because I am trying to use a different pubkey per peer, if there was just 1 pubkey it would be a standard out of band RSA pubkey exchange

sina: which seems a bit hacky.

sina: but this presents a chicken/egg problem, where the peer "initiating" the addition will need to then advertise that key to the other peer and wait for a key back, and then initiate an update to the peer data to add in the advertised pubkey ☟︎

sina: I am trying to program the following behaviour, a user can run "gossipc --add-peer --host 1.1.1.1 --port 5000 --name sina" and gossipc will select one of the available (not bogus) RSA keys generated by the ongoing key generation process and say something like "peer added. advertise/exchange the following pubkey to that peer:"

erlehmann: BingoBoingo medusa magazine seems pretty reasonable, indeed https://medusamagazine.com/youre-a-bigot-if-you-wouldnt-have-sex-with-a-gay-friend ☟︎

shinohai: re: icokit, I hope to see 1000 redditards do this, will keep the methereum DDoS fueled for a bit :)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's old post re making a gift from paper for his mother, comes to mind.

asciilifeform: i dun like , contrary to popular belief, pissing on parades. but pile of coal is not a diamond.

asciilifeform: mp-en-managua: spoiler: it's a python skin on (yes, via shell, per packet..!) koch gpg

a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 16:07 mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes' thingee dun read outloud huh. also the windows original product keys are a little lengthy.

mp-en-managua: and in other not-news, frankenhooker is definitely worth seeing. preferably with a bunch of "shy" and "they never did this before" naked latinas, who don't speak too good english and aren't old enough to know wtf a vhs tape is.

mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#42 << im defo giving this a spin once back.

mp-en-managua: "There is no denying that ICOs are hot right now. If you have a great idea for a Cryptocurrency, there is an army of enthusiasts ready and excited to back you."

scriba: Logged on 2017-06-25: [03:01:01] <sina> was kind of hoping mp would be around as I have a few gossipd questions

mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#10 << at this time i think i was hanging out with the only indian restauranteur in all of granada. fine gentleman, used to run a place in majorca if he's to be believed. kickass homemade yogurt, and fine vindaloo.

scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [20:54:46] <erlehmann> http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/ << i did not know what to make of mp's idiosyncratic writing style at first, but this what i'll show people if they question the “queer zine for the 1%” line.

mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#50 << ahh, it's been a pleasure re-reading that piece. /me enjoys reading trilema apparently.

scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [02:15:03] <sina> going to get some food and chill out for a bit, any feedback would be appreciated

mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#23 << as experience shows, the first implementation of a spec often ends up improving the spec. write it out, see what's wrong with it after/

scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [01:45:14] <sina> mod6: heya, not too bad, working on a gossipd impl!

mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes' thingee dun read outloud huh. also the windows original product keys are a little lengthy. ☟︎☟︎

scriba: Logged on 2017-06-22: [23:58:00] <TomServo> Also, if someone could share a copy of mp-wp, that'd be swell.

sina: took me a fair bit of debugging but I got the gossipd thing going so it sends and receives messages. peer addition and message addition are manual commands atm, but it does work :D github.com/sinner-/gossipd

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one of the fun things you won't learn about on a slavecycle is the delightful secondary torque around your axis of travel developed when you open the throttle while turning

a111: Logged on 2017-05-26 03:39 BingoBoingo: In other research, OMG A TWO WHEELED TRACTOR!!! https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/yamaha/2016-2017-yamaha-tw200-ar171244.html

BingoBoingo: In other news pete_dushenski was right, I probably should learn how to ride a mundane slave-bicycle before putting more effort into motorcycle learning

sina: you might roll the key you're using to talk to a particular peer, or want to update its last seen status

sina: but per the next specification sentence, the client will be generating keys constantly and potentially assigning them to use when connecting to a peer

sina: I. Gossipd will have access to a read-onlyii databaseiii of identitiesiv known to it.

sina: was kind of hoping mp would be around as I have a few gossipd questions

shinohai: A "we did it reddit" occurred when Coinbase announced they will be making ppl that called on the ETH crash whole, but not really qntrable.

erlehmann: http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/ << i did not know what to make of mp's idiosyncratic writing style at first, but this what i'll show people if they question the “queer zine for the 1%” line.

shinohai: (also appears I forgot to close the SFYL tag with </a>)

sina: out for a bit

sina: just going through those comments again trinque, e.g. http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119015 "One possible cut of the Gordian Knot re: my "enemy's ability to trigger a response from a suspected-node on demand" would be for every node to have a "lighthouse" - an always-on broadcaster of authentication challenge strings." per the spec I will be implementing this

sina: my impl is more "hey, here is a spec I can implement for some funtimes" than "hey, here is a useful thing"

sina: trinque: my problem is I don't have an original bone in my body, so short of a well described (enough) spec I have a lot of trouble

sina: going to get some food and chill out for a bit, any feedback would be appreciated

sina: I'm working on the spec per the blog post, the thread had a lot of stuff on which there wasn't a consensus yet

trinque: what you've got there looks like a tcp-gpg-wad hucker

sina: anyway I am hoping to have a decent complete implementation done by tomorrow-ish

sina: shinohai: I was definitely thinking about it. there is a lot to be said for the strong typing and forced error checking which makes the program more robust

sina: mod6: heya, not too bad, working on a gossipd impl!

js-of-mp: aaand with that, i shall bid you lot a very good weekend and laters!

a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 06:01 ben_vulpes: what is protocol for bot voice? mimisbrunnr now has a use for that.

js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1673684 << aha. the summer of forks caught a little bit of a spell of relfection, ended up hitting home. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:35 asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins

js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1673655 << not a matter of copyright. there's specific protections, you can't make the jodie foster foundation etc. ☝︎

js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673627 << lel. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Agribble+%22You+could+have+sent+a+bitcoin+from%22 ☝︎

js-of-mp: asciilifeform: backm in the 80s, the fashionable thing to say was "the city's a toilet, moving to whiteplains". well... THEY HAD NO IDEA THEN

shinohai is under tornado watch, opens a bottle of wine to celebrate ....

phf: driving on a one way street, through the woods, a car burning in the distance. "oh shit"

phf: my north ireland friend tells me that the burning car was a kind of symbol of terror when she was growing up. it wasn't so much about the car itself, it's the fact that around where it was burned there were probably going to be ira militants ready to "check your papers"

phf: (somewhat related, the battle of algiers is a cool movie on the subject of why burn cars. i suspect that same car burning tactic was later adopted by the ira)

a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:19 trinque: I'm still eagerly awaiting a description of these roving gangs of car burners.

js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673576 << mostly north african french from what i could discern. for some reason it was a big deal political gesture in like algiers. ☝︎

js-of-mp: poverty is not some sort of predictor of prospective failure in my experience. just a summary of historical failure.

a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:15 asciilifeform: erlehmann: i enjoy a number of things, from turkish military marches to turkish sweets. but it is different q from 'do i want the bottom economic 10% of turkey moving in next door'

js-of-mp: you will come out with a better impression of manhood generally.

trinque: it is factual that the non-pussified mexican culture is a huge boon for texas.

js-of-mp: note that if you can't come up with a good novel IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE WOMAN EMPTYING YOUR BASKET.

js-of-mp spent some time playing social game with this, "has green skin and long ears" "isn't that a greenskin ?" "uhhh"

a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 17:52 js-of-mp: erlehmann: there's no real spec to orcdom, visually, beyond "no good". it's actually a pretty interesting concept, anthropologically, because of its marked similarities to beauty.

js-of-mp: erlehmann: there's no real spec to orcdom, visually, beyond "no good". it's actually a pretty interesting concept, anthropologically, because of its marked similarities to beauty. ☟︎

phf: we have a particular friend hoe. she's fucked up most of the time (alcohol and psychedelics), traveled across the world off the money she makes. running joke is that she's taken over by ishtar, and she's having all these crazy amazing experiences while being only half conscious of it. "got fucked up in mumbai, ended up in a hat of a holy man in himalayas. good lay. xoxo" etc.