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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun see much diff b/w the bolix gnomes and the 40 y.o. chix who 'waiting for right man' to pop cherry, as pictured also in mircea_popescu's essays
asciilifeform: except that one doesn't publish for the swine, you publish for the 3 d00dz who actually have with what to make sense.
BingoBoingo: Never mind that unlike dragons, gnomes are too handicaped to bring results liek dragons. "I R gnome, If I sit on gold liek the dragons do Imma be a dragon too"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's at least a little bit of the healthy dynamic where 'why should i throw the pearls before swine', iirc mircea_popescu expanded on this
BingoBoingo: gnomes sit on gold because deep down on the inside they want to feel like dragons
asciilifeform: 'pour some mars into the boiling pot of jupiter, and promise not to reveal the seekrit to the profane'
asciilifeform: it's almost like folx revert to the condition of the alchemists when given half a chance.
asciilifeform: gnomism is almost like an infectious disease. i still can't properly fathom the behaviour of all those folx who had the alpha genera cd for decade+ and didn't put on piratebay.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 00:51 asciilifeform: 'i'ma sit on this gold' 'why' 'because i am gnome'
asciilifeform: ~somebody~ -- has. some http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863759 type. i dun usually believe in 'losts'. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the disk dun include any sores tho, i checked.
asciilifeform: yea that page's been exactly like-that since at least '06 when i 1st saw it
phf: well, symbolics macsyma existed for a decade after the dod one. i've tried a few papers from 80s digests, that had macsyma code in them, and they all assumed symbolics and they all refused to run on maxima (because of missing stuff)
asciilifeform: ( btw mircea_popescu , consider the sheer mindfuck, the 1st and still to date greatest mechanical algebratron was not only written in usg nuke establishment, but ~openly published~ -- very diff people in '70s )
asciilifeform: ( incidentally just like wolfram's 'mathematica' in the initial versions )
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, bolix macsyma was largely a free ride on the public dollar one
asciilifeform: just how much moar was in the bolix ?
asciilifeform: what do you mean? i have the u.s. doe one right here
phf: but i know for a fact that macsyma source is lost, which is a terrible shame
asciilifeform: i dun expect that ~this~ exists anywhere outside of indiana jones warehouse, no
phf: ivory is basically part of symbolics's digital age, and i don't know of the existence of e.g. somebody's home folder that you just need to but on the right machine, and you can bring up the "rebuild the ivory from first principles" workspace
asciilifeform: i thought it was specifically re ivory
asciilifeform: waitasec what doc are we then speaking of
phf: oh yeah, i've meditated on this problem (even given that some things, e.g. pal truth tables are available), unfortunately i suspect that ~~everything related to ivory is lost. (possibly the mit guy has a copy, but that's a dead end sealed shut. will have to wait for the estate sale and such)
asciilifeform: ( along with hundreds of PALs and GALs, which ~each~ could take several hrs of probe just to extract the trooftable , plus fucktonne of board track )
asciilifeform: unlike, e.g., 3620, where i remember no fewer than 9 massive pga things
asciilifeform: literally erry other ic on the 'ivory 3' board is stock ( save possibly for a GAL or 2 )
asciilifeform: i wouldn't consider ever to put floatism in a new design, but for compat with the vintage soft one would need it ( fortunately unlike 'ivory' the weitek is documented to death, i even have a copy of the datashit from ancient ru stash )
asciilifeform: ( back in the days when cult of 'flops' were going strong... )
asciilifeform: afaik it's the same item
phf: oh i thought that cpu looked familiar, yeah i guess it did
asciilifeform: but much less than the old liquishit
asciilifeform: even ivory had a buncha similar ugly, iirc it still used external weitek thing (same as in yours and mine 486) for arithmetics
asciilifeform: ( if you were to start today with two tonnes of 74xxx, you would end up with something that looks quite a bit like cadr )
asciilifeform: cadr was a horrendous thing because designed around two tonnes of 74xxx
asciilifeform: whole point of that particular dig of asciilifeform's, was to see if maybe possible ~not~ to go back to cadr, and maybe we lost only 20 yrs and not 30
phf: given how sparse the materials are, if you're rebuilding the hardware, you might as well start with CADR instead of 3600
asciilifeform: 3600 i did not find very interesting, hence why i traded it, lol
asciilifeform: aite, ty
phf: you overestimate the loot :> i have a lot of 3600 shit, but almost nothing on ivory. i have a handful of relevant documents though, that i can needle out
asciilifeform: ideally would like errything pertaining to that ic
phf: i had a point in my head, until i realized that it doesn't resolve to anything concrete when it comes to a pile of IMG_123123.JPG, have to go one by one
phf: nah, i just need to go through three different scan archives, to find where it was
asciilifeform: would like to get hands on that thing tho, at some pt
asciilifeform: i'm even ok with a roll of b&w fujifilm, if too big for xerox.
asciilifeform: ( addr is in top-left of 1st photo of mircea_popescu's http://trilema.com/2017/fuckgoats-unboxing-of ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: if the thing is a paper scroll etc, feel free to xerox and post it to my postbox if that's easier than scans
phf: asciilifeform: i'll try to do it this weekend, i also have a backlog of vpatches i need to push. my flight is on the 30th and i'm moving out of my current apartment. so things have been busy
a111: Logged on 2018-11-09 18:51 asciilifeform: !Q phf didja ever get chance to unearth the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862616 item ?
asciilifeform gently prods phf re the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-09#1870461 cheops pyramid ☝︎
phf: it lives in the "miscellaneous symbols" block (like the other symbols i use for annotation), which has been in unicode since '93. there are more appropriate symbols in higher planes, but they either don't render, or have forced emoji equivalents, or render differently on different systems, etc. etc.
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/11/whos-responsible-for-this/ << The Whet - Who's responsible for this?!
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 04:58 mircea_popescu: ♖<< is this a chess piece (rook) ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872157 << yeah it's a rook. in my mind it's associated with archives behind castle walls, but it's not particularly correct, since a rook is a siege tower. maybe a bishop would've been a better a choice ☝︎
lobbes: amusingly, few weeks ago I was talking with some bums outside of the $work-tower while smoking. They mentioned they had been bumming rides down from W. Virginia, were headed to... Miami! for the winter
BingoBoingo: For the Miami files: https://archive.is/8i6v7
BingoBoingo: Not that the Pichis actual use the shelters
BingoBoingo: Now I'm in the opposite geography. Everywhere rural in the country sends their bums here because "there's shelters"
BingoBoingo: It is a long walk if the bums are set on the one particular small town
BingoBoingo: Low bum population is a perk of being rural enough the local authorities have to drive the bums 20 miles away to the county lockup
BingoBoingo: The one in my Hometown still mostly functioned as it did when I was young, save the winblows toilets have even less space assigned to them than they did in the past.
asciilifeform: ( already 3 of 8 floors have 0 dead tree )
asciilifeform: i sometimes still go to the local uni lib, but it too is going down this road
asciilifeform: it's pretty much dead in anglostan too ( they've become bum hangouts, with winblowz public toilets where the b00kz used to be )
BingoBoingo: There is a national library and the different Facultads have libraries, but the general "Public Library" as pushed in Anglostan by Carnegie doesn't seem to exist here
BingoBoingo: Get far enough out and it's the Pichis with the week's dumpster finds unwashed in the saddest streets
BingoBoingo: The corner with the lampshades
BingoBoingo: There's the camera heavy antique street. The kitchenware heave antique street. The book streets. The music cd streets.
BingoBoingo: Well, the market is centered on Tristan Narvaja, but it branches off into themed side streets
asciilifeform: the street where the flea market ?
BingoBoingo: Like the flea markets back home most of the book tables are clogged with mass market paperbacks and low effort "nonfiction" topic books.
BingoBoingo: There's the oldbook shops and a couple good streets in the feria. Feria is where I found my copy of the Código de Comercio
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do they have libraries over in BingoBoingostan ?
BingoBoingo has to find where the spanish language print warez lives, what I had ben considering 'general purpose' warez dumps are clogged with translations and adaptations
BingoBoingo: Not in the depth I'd like to ☟︎
BingoBoingo: +1 language means there is now +1 literary canon to attack
BingoBoingo: Not yet. Library huge, time constrained.
BingoBoingo: Not everything in print can be Popescu's work on the Urban-Rural dispute or Russel's 'Wasp'
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/forkcoin-that-split-from-bitcoin-now-struck-by-contentious-hardfork/ << Qntra - Forkcoin That Split From Bitcoin Now Struck By Contentious Hardfork
asciilifeform: ( about our fyootoor machine, if i live long enuff, rather than z80 )
asciilifeform: but i'd like to write the proper one, lol
asciilifeform: eh it aint actually that great. turns out was much better in my memory than in life. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 17:32 asciilifeform hopes to live to write a b00k like that
asciilifeform: and it was moar about the chipset than z80 per se, now that i revisit it
asciilifeform: ave1: c. d. smith, 'the zx spectrum ula: how to design a microcomputer' btw
ave1: I plan to write it up an publish beginning next week
ave1: btw the udp code now also runs on aarch64
ave1: busy these days, I've been looking for a new job (seems to be the theme of this year...)
asciilifeform: how's things otherwise, ave1 ?
asciilifeform: ( iirc i read it as a scan, rather than actual b00k )
asciilifeform: presently title escapes me
asciilifeform: ave1: i'ma have to dig and come back to you on that
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 17:32 asciilifeform: ( i actually have a b00k by orig designer of z80, where he actually walks through the die, transistor by transistor, as if it were picasso )
ave1: asciilifeform, Do you have a title or reference for this book? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1872937 (So far I found Masatoshi Shima as the principal designer, but no book by him yet...) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( incl some of the comments i apparently missed on the 1st coupla passes )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1872832 << btw i enjoyed rereading this ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and later x60 is pretty much a physically shrunken version of that box, with slightly faster cpu )
asciilifeform: so anyffing that actually fit in 1024x768, rendered ok, it was perfect match
asciilifeform: oh it was in old times, i did not have external screen then
asciilifeform: ( iirc was 1st lappy i ever owned that had enuff horse to reliably play avi )