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mircea_popescu: i mean, i didn't pick up anything whatsoever in the case of this xinxi guy. nor did i look into it in any depth. however, consider the case of the r3wt kid. now there, i did pick up roughly the same vibe i imagine you peeps are discussing. and yet, months later,
bounce: the low end scam is fairly obvious to spot with a little experience looking at the patters in -otc
mircea_popescu: all the rage a while ago.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, where have all the "are women more deceitful than men" studies gone ?
mircea_popescu: just as long as it doesn't reduce to a "she's a woman/politician/newbie and her lips are moving so -> lying"
RagnarDanneskjol: life experience, inference, threat modeling,etc
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol im not saying that persona jkudgement is invalid in any case. obviously all we have to go on is the judgement entered by individuals. but i think the general point is nevertheless interesting, how does one tell ?
RagnarDanneskjol: heh - no, the deceit is
mircea_popescu: not worth the trouble.
RagnarDanneskjol: very subtle and calculated type
RagnarDanneskjol: i could put together all the citations, would take a while
mircea_popescu: more interested in the general point tbh, i have no idea what this kid's story is, but in general derpy newcomers with a drive and deceitful scammers with a plan would look quite similar, at least during the first 1k lines or w/e, i think
RagnarDanneskjol: a much greater crime than run otf the mill scamming
RagnarDanneskjol: if you read his logs-and his innane discussions on the forum -its pretty clear.. I very rarely accuse anyone of actually being deceitful
mircea_popescu: how do we distinguish this from sheer paranoia ?
thickasthieves: and to then "get hacked"
thickasthieves: that he's here to convince us to try his exchange
gabriel_laddel: RagnarDanneskjol: thank you.
mircea_popescu: what's that all about ?
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gabriel_laddel: ;; rate xinxi -2 doesn't understand that he doesn't understand English, or is fraudster/incompetent
assbot: It's the economy, stupid , Scott Sumner | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user xinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=xinxi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xinxi | Rated since: never
xinxi: RagnarDanneskjol - the sig was added before I came here and knew MPOE. I’ll definitely revise it.
mircea_popescu: in other news today, mp loves pulling people's chains.
thickasthieves: whenever someone is defining something differently than you, just say semantics and they lose
thickasthieves: semantics is the new debate destroyer havent you heard
mircea_popescu: no, this is substance.
thickasthieves: he just claimed to know details of gov conrpiracy
mircea_popescu: mayhap you confuse the newsman with the archeologist ?
thickasthieves: tbf, mp never claimed to be newsman
wywialm: it was -4% today
bounce: wasn't about what's news but what's newswriting. doesn't matter if it turns out to be prophetic later; prophecy isn't the function of the newsreporter.
mircea_popescu: argentina is fine too lol
wywialm: in eu, only poland strong today
wywialm: and greece bond yields climb again, we may see two digits very soon :)
pete_dushenski: wywialm: that bad eh?
wywialm: pete_dushenski, re the Dow: you should rather see the euro stoxx index
pete_dushenski: i think the next whatsapp is on that list
assbot: Dyson's 20 Best Inventions of the Year
mircea_popescu: yesterday's log about what's news and what isn't will be so lulzy once ~that one~ qntra article ends up in the position of the stormcaller, greatest news piece ever published etc etc...
Apocalyptic: when you will see -25% on GOOG or AAPL that would be the day
Apocalyptic: pete_dushenski, I thought you were actually joking
pete_dushenski: and quite the oct/nov.
mircea_popescu: this is going to be a hell of a thursday/friday
mircea_popescu: anyway, if it was indeed over the growth SLOWdown they reported,
mircea_popescu: what's 5 bn give or take.
mircea_popescu: you know this is perhaps a good point... and trilema has a shitton of them
kakobrekla: would be handy to have
pete_dushenski: so pankkake is awol, no reply to my gpg-gram about vps nodes, then… this: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/16/the-difference-between-weak-hands-and-strong-hands/#comment-3386
pete_dushenski: "in the entire first world!"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nothing like that can happen. aren't you aware the dow is the penis of the biggest greatest richest most important country IN THE COUNTRY !?>!?!
pete_dushenski: everyone ready for another full day of ddosing and watching the dow bleed?
RagnarDanneskjol: think it might be sooner than that even
wywialm: thanks for the info
mircea_popescu: so check back in a week or two ?
mircea_popescu: wywialm well the deedbot is atm dead, but being reimplemented
kakobrekla: someone should put that in the wiki
wywialm: by the way, is there any doc regarding the working of the deedBot?
kakobrekla: on trilema? 403 verboten
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla srsly, you don't see the big T ?
mircea_popescu: what is this scandal!
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.09, Best ask: 374.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 374.5, 24 hour volume: 19991.90119018, 24 hour low: 374.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 387.533001503
mircea_popescu: ;;isitdown trilema.com
mircea_popescu: lmao. pro tip : if you put Deny from 50.97.161.229 in your droplist ;;isitdown will say it's down.
kakobrekla: "o no wp here? lets try again in a few hours."
kakobrekla: funny thing is that same ones are coming back again and again
kakobrekla: that too
kakobrekla: on sites that arent even wp
kakobrekla: i have been getting shitload "?action=register" bots for some time now
kakobrekla: so much of traffic these days is BS bots
mircea_popescu: i guess not so low traffic in the end.
mircea_popescu: well this is a tiny thing was supposed to hold you know, low traffic blogs
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, looks like your servers are having a tough time
assbot: Martha Lane Fox: YEUCH! The Internet is MADE by MEN?!? The Register
bounce: ``I would argue immediately that voting should be mandatory and it should be online. Of course, we can cover for all the fraud and I don\u2019t think it makes the procedure any less robust, in fact quite the opposite.'' -- http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/15/martha_lanefox_yeuch_the_internet_is_made_by_men/
mircea_popescu: ;;isitdown trilema.com
mircea_popescu: ;;isitdown trilema.com
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.15, Best ask: 378.85, Bid-ask spread: 1.70000, Last trade: 378.85, 24 hour volume: 19177.01825759, 24 hour low: 376.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 388.182705885
wywialm: and sadly, trilema is down as well
mircea_popescu: btw, cazalla bingoboingo and everyone else in the same situation : if the blob gpg spits out when you sign contains a SHA1 you are using the older, and perhaps not all that secure digest algo. you should move on to sha512 either with --digest-algo SHA512 or else edit gpg.conf to insert personal-digest-preferences SHA512 SHA384 SHA256 ☟︎☟︎
wywialm: the only thing visible is the IIS screen. Does qntra run on MSFT soft?:)
mircea_popescu: so qntra was back for a coupla hours there, but down again now lol.
mircea_popescu: now that promises a juicy log. brb :[
gabriel_laddel: mats_cd03: RagnarDanneskjol: oh, the fuzzy border between fraud and incompetence.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.07, Best ask: 384.74, Bid-ask spread: 1.67000, Last trade: 383.04, 24 hour volume: 17282.36997204, 24 hour low: 376.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 389.528943129
RagnarDanneskjol: ript kiddie. - other than """"I have been trading FX for more than seven years and I made enough money for me to live for the following 5 years even if I don't work at all. So It makes little sense for me to run away with your money """
RagnarDanneskjol: just trying to keep things real here - you asked for feedback. your sig on the forum claims your site is the FIRST options exchange - you clearly demonstrated that you were aware of the options emporium prior to now. you also have no experience running a business (or even having a real job) and failed to demonstrate any reason why you are better suited to run this than a 15 year old sc
mats_cd03: at the least it implies a fundamental uncertainty in the game, and at worst malfeasance
mats_cd03: it is a red flag for everyone in this chan if the biggest player in the game is unwilling to MM his own options, xinxi
xinxi: yeah, I recall. you are right, I needed a market maker to provide liquidity. but that does not mean it’s a gambling site, right?
RagnarDanneskjol: so ont you recall that looooong conversation about options w/ mp where you took several hours to FINALLY come out with your actual intentions - -to enroll a 'market maker' aka bagholder for your site??
xinxi: you can also use the black-scholes model to price the options.
bounce: it's better than to not use it, but it is easily done wrong and then there's the whole problem of the PKI industry
xinxi: and you can trade volatility
bounce: https is the "best current practice" any time people end up having to feed "personal details" and such into forms. username/password for starters.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2014 06:20:05; mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option
RagnarDanneskjol: why would you think that
RagnarDanneskjol: how many plugs for your gambling site can you work into each conversation do you think
xinxi: anyway, many people like illusions. that’s why I use it.