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mod6: king the explicit time to get my head screwed back on straight.
mod6: You know, I just went for a quick walk, and the cold air did me some good. I think maybe part of my problem is that the stress from being in the soup for the better part of a year has been a bit rough on me mentally. Been saying idiotic things without thinking, pasting shit without thinking, etc. I dunno feels like a bit of sand-falling through my hands - trying to get back into the good graces without ta
mircea_popescu: hey, we went through a week or so of nubbins going "mp is a liar!!!", did exactly jack.
mod6: I see your point totally.
trinque: if you don't see how this leads straight to the contemporary hell, you do need to take that vacation.
trinque: taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn't matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning ☟︎
mod6 will bbl to answer q's if required.
mod6: Thanks for the wake-up call.
mod6: Basically, if someone says, "mod6 is liar!", and I publish my deedbot ledger, well, then it stands alone. To be evaluated at face value.
mod6: I have no real argument with your wanting to stay out of any type of arguments, or discuss anyones deedbot tx's. Which, is the rightful thing to do.
mod6: And to the 0% part, I just responded "Cool." because you reminded me of what was right and proper.
mod6: Well, to your point of "emotional".
mod6: Maybe being around here so long has blurred the lines for me, I consider you guys my friends.
trinque: you responded to 0% of the substance of what I said, and came back with "sorry you don't like me". come on, give it some effort!
trinque: yeah, I'm not looking for an emotional connection here when I'm talking to you.
mircea_popescu: nobody's offended, man. we're concerned, because you seem to have contracted earworm.
mod6: I didn't mean any offense by the thread, I hope you and trinque will forgive.
mircea_popescu: no, i know, that's the problem. you thought you were being logical, and the logical thread you were following went along the lines of...
mod6: Like I said, Mr. P. I'll be stepping away. I only remain just to answer ben_vulpes's questions.
mod6: I didn't think that was the case! I thought I was being quite logical, tbh.
mircea_popescu: which then leads to the suspicion that 4) regular dosing with idiocy through direct exposure in his daily life is poisoning mod6.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that's fine and dandy, but look how the logic works : 1) the republic exists principally as a succession of schelling points, meaning that "given a situation of structure X, republican will land on selection y" ; 2) the impression is hard to shake that with ~extreme regularity~ your landing diverges from that y, and in specific ways. which leads to 3) somehow mod6 ended up mentally at odds with the fundamentals of tmsr,
trinque: if someone shows me the thing didn't work, I go fix a bug, but dispute resolution between users happens in *your* courts, not mine. if I later condescend to involve myself in the affairs of lowlier folks than anyone present, it'll come yes with a hefty fee, or hanging both, or whatever most dissuades the behavior.
mod6: I actually figured, that in the case where or if someone's deedbot history was ever called into question, someone would verify the claim.
mod6: I guess I didn't know that.
mircea_popescu: kinda the point, yeh.
mod6: Other than just by what people say.
mod6: I dunno, bad idea I guess. Just realized that there really is no way to verify someones ledger.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 21:03 mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873485 << dood, what's with you and wanting to break ~every single item of design~. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: in retrospect, doing any of this in pm was entirely unnecessary and counterproductive.
ben_vulpes: works for me, ty
mod6: (18:25) <ben_vulpes> .2 is sitting in bingoboingo's posession, and .3 was sent to mats in july, so reduce the cash balance by .5 and that's what i'll deliver you
mod6: (18:24) <ben_vulpes> once i get your signoff on that report, i'll send the balance of the cash to your deedbot account
mod6: I do have logs of that, would you like me to paste them here?
ben_vulpes: mod6: sorry for the obtuse ask last night. it's not strictly necessary, but i would like you to corroborate that i wrote those two lines to you in a private message on that date. if you grep for "once i get your signoff", you'll find what i'm talking about.
mod6: ben_vulpes: makes sense, thanks.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 20:04 mod6: d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873457 << that's the transfer from a trb wallet to my deedbot account, notice that 'tx_to' is 'ben_vulpes' ☝︎
trinque: it is *your* choice what you say about yourself and that's where it ends.
trinque: certainly not whatever. I'm not becoming a source of information about people's bot use. the panopticon habits are not made clean when somebody calling himself a lord picks them up.
mod6: Someway to cross-reference this if need-be could be a service. But like I said. Whateves.
mod6: True, at the end of the day, someone has to take my word for it though when it comes to me signing my ledger.
trinque: and it's better than the imperial "some faceless dork with a hat vouches for everyone"
trinque: the wot is already the mechanism to do what you're trying to get me to do.
mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know. ☟︎
trinque: mod6: you don't want me derping about like I'm republican transunion. there isn't such a thing.
diana_coman: jurov, BingoBoingo confirmed, I can see them; thanks!
jurov: BingoBoingo: diana_coman: the shares were pushed
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 16:57 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873291 - noted and added to the list though it might still take some time to get up to speed with ffa again ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.02 << CoinBr asset transfer
jurov: !!invoice BingoBoingo 0.02 CoinBr asset transfer
mod6: (Thank you again for conducting this audit, I very much appreciate it.)
mod6: Does that complete any corroboration that you were looking for?
mod6: Not sure why the dates are off a bit, but the amount seems to make sense to me now.
mod6: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/07/15/june-statement/ << Shows that we had a end-of-June cash balance of '6.71445021'. And you subtracted off .5 from that amount, and sent it to me.
mod6: Ok, I see where you got that number now.
mod6: Anyway, we all know that I'm not very clued on this stuff, but I don't see how your records say you sent '6.56190000' to me, and my deedbot wallet ledger shows '6.21445021'.
mod6: trinque could even audit my publication and signoff that it indeed matches his records if need be.
mod6: Anyway, if it's helpful, I'm happy to sign my deedbot wallet ledger and publish it for those to review. Just say the word and will do.
mod6: I can confirm that approximately ".2" was said to be held in BingoBoingo's custody outside of the deedbot wallet. And I can confirm that I have notes that state that you paid mats .3, and to reduce the amount by .5 total.
mod6: (this all from what I consider to be the 'source-of-truth'; my deedbot wallet ledger)
mod6: This is how much I received, and on the 15th
mod6: Before that tx, where you send me the remaining pizarro funds, my balance was "0.08479669 BTC".
mod6: The amount and the date appear to be off to me.
mod6: d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet. ☟︎
mod6: "Let's show what we're filtering out as well:", to which this tx, amount, and date appear:
trinque: just wrote a tool to minimize the human component of doing that, though.
mod6: BingoBoingo: Can you confirm for us all that you have '0.20113128 BTC' (from ben_vulpes' note above) set aside from bbisp, etc? I only ever see ".2xxxx" mentioned in places.
trinque: big transactions take a lulzy amount of the stuff to import into the cold wallet
trinque: for those waiting on withdrawals, I'll return and complete them once I stock back up on .....paper! brb
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 07:13 ben_vulpes: mod6: i ask for your corroboration of a log line in that letter.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 07:12 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo: the mistake in july's statement is all mine: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/POt9B/?raw=true
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873244 << Thank you ben_vulpes; looking through this, now. ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/YZOc4 << the 'colour of bits' thing, ftr, iirc orig thread was prior to archivebot
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may. there's ~nothing of interest to you here, so you can just safely forget about it.
mircea_popescu: the chicks that commission actual installations for me, be it an acre of ground-to-ground missile tubes or a parking lot, are devops. not the chicks that copy recipe books.
mircea_popescu: and so it's "devops" because what exactly, you wrote them a ruby gem or w/e. ?
echelon: yeah, but most pirates just ripped from a tv tuner anyway, so i don't think it had much effect
mircea_popescu: ie, a job that's strictly impossible in the general case, but then again dealing with the sort of morons who actually care about hbo, so not quite hard to do in particular.
mircea_popescu: mkay. and the idea was to put the ip or w/e of the "subscriber" into the downloads so that if they turn up on torrents hbo lawyers know what soccer mom to send abusive readers' digest spam to ?
asciilifeform: what exactly is to keep 3 users from taking their 3 'marked' copies and xor'ing together.
asciilifeform: echelon: copyrasts' 'technical investments' are possibly some of the dumbest schemes on this side of emperor qin shihuangdi's hg immortality pills
mircea_popescu: was that a "stream over internet hbo shows" thing ?
echelon: i dunno if they do anything different now
mircea_popescu: drinking by yourself, you know. what the fuck is it ? some variant of the above.
echelon: asciilifeform: it was watermarked in real-time on their "go" service
mircea_popescu: they're pretty much the same i think.
asciilifeform suspects that at this point the primo disease of intelligent folx is the bottle. but this, i suppose, also
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:14 mircea_popescu: "who do you think will win, mr 13, the team with two guys and monkeys or the team with three guys and monkeys ?"
mircea_popescu: consider alf, that you're not the only one to have noticed http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 ; most intelligent people in fact did. you're just among the few to have managed to break through the usual disease of intelligent people, aka http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1641209 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is i guess an ok strategy, both for the http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/ fucktards as well as for the sirius/vandroyi/whatever-style "i am disgusted with you morons" autists.
asciilifeform: i'm moar than a little bit surprised that d00d admits to having perpetrated such lulz, just it alone takes 9000 yrs in purgatory to atone for
echelon: mircea_popescu: it's like stegonagraphic watermarking, so even if you resize the video resolution, they could forensically identify the source of the piracy
mircea_popescu: what's this supposed to even be, in human language, "i wrote the bills of purchase for the project manager in charge of provisioning the one room in hbo tower where they take copied hard-drives to see whether there's hbo shows on them, aka devops eng" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: copyrasty crackpottery, where 'seekrit bitz in .avi so to find which cinema leaked to piratebay'
echelon: ben_vulpes: yeah, on bezosnet, but using the api for automated provisioning with ansible and stuff
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is a forensic watermark anyway ? don't you have to have the watermarks ~before~ you can "forensic" ?
ben_vulpes: clickin buttons in bezosnet and mashin tab in intellij?