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mircea_popescu: the typical botnet is what,
a bunch of fridges sending ntp requests ?
☟︎ sina: so basically it's just
a pay to play botnet?
mircea_popescu: gotta put
a price tag on this whole "we're too lazy to do security"
sina: so what's wrong with candi_lustt for this role? it just needs
a billing thingo?
sina: mircea_popescu: when the people I know first wrote ZeroVM it was like 2012 or so, and at the time I was working at
a startup you may recall that. and I told everyone we shoudl get involved, was ignored, then ZeroVM got "acquihired" by Rackspace
sina: I rant about it to my boss at least once
a week
sina: you've probably heard of Amazon S3, it's an object store with REST API, so it responds to primitives GET/HEAD/PUT/DELETE/POST ...there is an equivalent open source project part of OpenStack called Swift. some people I know worked on
a sandbox that only accepts input on stdin and writes to stdout, and wrotesome middleware for swift so you can for example upload
a datset and compute on it and get the result
mircea_popescu: that is
a fine example. or, you know, calculate the mpfhf over the gutenberg collection.
sina: so people could sell CPU cycles, in
a pretty hard sandbox, that only offered those 3 syscalls
sina: it's
a linux kernel feature you can use to limit which syscalls
a program has access to...the original version of seccomp allowed only read()/write()/exit() syscalls
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nah. candi_lustt is
a by hand, limited implementation of something that could be deemed uci in the sense of the donkey-powered shower.
sina: so can you untangle these for me as I'm
a little confused
mircea_popescu: well, basically
a bunch of people (ideally) will write ai bots, and solmeone will have to run their tournament.
mircea_popescu: obviously not. just, you realise, it's
a republican artefact, "1st pcap of an early gossipd attempt"
sina: mircea_popescu: FYI that is
a bunch of send and recv from 2 peers, (1 on port 5555, other on port 5556) on the same network interface (127.0.0.1) ...it's not
a single "session"
sina: mircea_popescu: what do you want to see ideally? just
a lisp repl with irc interface?
sina: today is Fri here, bout to return to work in
a few days, so free time will be curtailed
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 02:15 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675565 << the problem with the concept of
a "session" is that it attempts to link machine state to world state. this is
a very tenuous proposition, and the fundamental reason why sessionificatyion of (the correctly designed) stateless
http protocol failed for 30 years straight and will continue to fail forever.
mircea_popescu: got some other stuff going right now, so not
a good time, but tomorrow or such ?
sina: sorry the UX bit of it is still
a tad clunky
sina: so youcan add me as
a peer with: gossipc --add-peer --name sina --host 127.0.0.1 --port 5556
sina: ah interesting I actually had
a similar idea after reading abotu the ai stuff
ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been working from
a cheapo ssd in this ancient once-gaming-rig i got for
a song and holy shit does it kick the ass off the ssds in macbooks
mircea_popescu: phf next you're going to come up with shade
a la "the only reason it's fabulous is cuz it's ghey" and then ima get my disbaseball bat
a111: Logged on 2017-06-10 04:08 sina: or is this
a spec bug
mircea_popescu: anyway -- thanks to the werkz we are now in
a better position to find out if this thing even works.
phf: apparently it's called
a "dis", african americans invented it in the 40s
sina: it was
a pleasure to work on!
mircea_popescu: if no more changes, shit left to do re mpfhf :
a) do some proper profiling work, with timings etc. could make
a great blog article. b) try and break it, like any hash. could make
a bnunch of great blog articles (tried this, so and so, didn't work -- can do this 500 times).
mircea_popescu: to wrap head. and such
a wide palette ~impossible for anyone to not find
a language he speaks.
sina: but only
a suggestion
sina: yah, I just remember when implementing it I had to write out that sentence on notepad as
A and B to wrap my head
sina: mircea_popescu: suggestion. "
A third operation is the flipping of
a number of bits in either S or R," should read "elements
A or B" and make that operation generic
ben_vulpes: but yeah i caught that i got
a new caftan! neato!
ben_vulpes: "you don't have
a website?! linking to github?!"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 04:19 ben_vulpes: sina: sensible thing to do is make
a genesis of your shit, stand up an mp-wp and post it on your blog
ben_vulpes: sina: why the resistance to making
a website?
mircea_popescu: no. i am asking what exactly must be your thought process to give away your work to
a bunch of usg tarded spammers so they can then turn around and sell it.
sina: mircea_popescu: are you asking if that is the only place it exists other than my HDD?
a: no
mircea_popescu: sina suppose, for the sake of entirely idle argument going over things that could never happen irl, that in
a week github comes up with
a "code of conduct" and you get booted off it.
mircea_popescu: it's what it is :
a subdomain off
a domain in
a space run by fucktards who figure hey, "if this is all we sell it'll count"
sina: too bad sina.com is
a giant chinese search engine!
sina: wtf is wrong with me for not owning id.au? or for having
a .id.au domain?
sina: and I do remember
a logline from asciilifeform "written in python because if I didn't then it wouldn't exist" or along those lines
mod6: sina: aside from alfs previous assertions; do you not want
a primary key field set in the messages or keys table?
sina: asciilifeform: wondering if you took
a look at my revised gossipthing by any chance?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: betcha you can't build an x that will draw on any card you can buy in
a store nao, without 5+ << yeah, any proper graphics card. std intel card tho.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ( moar-threads-than-cpus is fundamentally
a lie to the operator ) << 'i can't believe it's not cpu' aha.
mircea_popescu tried recently, literally felt like was fucking
a little boy. ew.
trinque: was actually going to ask if you had
a vintage
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 22:37 asciilifeform: end result is to be
a vaguely msdos-like thing that understands how to configure x64 page table, put/get blocks of disk, and speak over rs232 port. and on top of this,
a self-building gnat.
ag3nt_zer0: could have
a small home outside of town for 0.116376 btc/mo
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what'd
a month cost you there?
ag3nt_zer0: Chiang Rai is very nice superior to Chiang Mai imo, smaller, cleaner, up in the hills
a bit more
trinque: the place has been on my radar for
a while; I've got
a meatwot guy there
ag3nt_zer0: just got back
a while ago and working my ass off to buy btc before it fulfills what appears to be its destiny of 1 trillion dollars/coin
shinohai: I can't get
a workable env going .... using gcc version 4.9.4 (Gentoo 4.9.4 p1.0, pie-0.6.4)
mircea_popescu: 2k black dudes registered as sex offenders for buying
a can of canada dry are
a-ok
trinque: so here's
a tip re: "omg cannot pull cash out of credit cards: 2017 panoptical broomstick hell"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
a TWO-DOOR toyota. << $4000 buys
a sports car convertible
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought buying new is
a scam anyway. why would it be obvious you meant that ?
trinque: I bought
a beast of
a truck for 16k