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assbot: Logged on 28-03-2014 16:21:08; asciilifeform: when the usg banned the instant 'hiv' tester device, the argument, if i recall, was that people would kill themselves on learning the result, if no surrounded by government-approved shrinks
asciilifeform: same deal re: pocket-sized instant aids tester that fda also banned.
assbot: 2 results for 'aids test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=aids+test
asciilifeform: !s aids test
Apocalyptic: yeah... the guy is back again
undata: asciilifeform: "but government guidelines prevent hospitals from using it to actually screen for Ebola." whaaaaa
mike_c: 60+ th/s?
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 8174.75 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 52.91 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.69 TH/s
assbot: Dallas Hospital Had the Ebola Screening Machine That the Military Is Using in Africa - Defense One
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 15700.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 47.27 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.75 TH/s
jurov: i'm sure they will include some ddos functionality into systemd bery soon
asciilifeform: not enough to simply vote at debian, its tendrils will have to be painfully and surgically excised from 1000 places.
asciilifeform: systemd cancer is pretty advanced though
jurov: asciilifeform today's log says debian's supposedly voting to allow compatibility outside systemd
ninjashogun: oh I forgot I wrote that lol but yeah.
jurov: it's revenge for us bashing the systemd
jurov: no, it's nobody from here. as i wrote just above, indices lead to lennart poettering
ninjashogun: (for the record, I just have this one.)
mats_cd03: man, if hes being paid to troll, 10USD is not nearly enough for a ddos
ninjashogun: Do you guys know what his other WoT rating was that he referred to?
assbot: <ninjashogun> If you have anyhting to do with this (see bottom of conversatoin) - Pastebin.com
ninjashogun: anyway this is what I wrote MP on the subject - http://pastebin.com/VHQ4XyzA (via PM just now)
ninjashogun: nobody would pay anyone to troll me from anywhere except here :)
ninjashogun: Anyway it's not how anyone does business. Please don't do this.
ninjashogun: I was just referring to the bottom lines. <fivezerotwo> im just trolling you dude <fivezerotwo> we're being paid to troll you (and then he disconnected)
mats_cd03: i appreciate the contribution to drama ninjashogun
jurov: so i came to the systemd stuff in the lawgs .. and
ninjashogun: I just notice htat he's also being discussed in channel here now. (Someone pointed this out to me.) At first I assumed MP to have paid for this out of some weird strategy (since I came to MP with a small project recently, maybe he wanted to know if I still needed small amounts of money, etc.) But I thought you guys should see it.
mats_cd03: !up ninjashogun 20:47:42 <ninjashogun> I have an important convo to pastebin with fivezerotwo
mats_cd03: my slave name would be a start, but i suppose thats a fuzzy thing.
mats_cd03: b-but, he's willing to sign an address with 1000btc in it
asciilifeform: very few people are equipped to safely monetize an 0day in person.
jborkl: I guess moolah had a codind error that allowed you withdraw double what you deposited
asciilifeform: is it - what owner paid? what the 'fence' will get, on the blackmarket? what the fence will pay you?
asciilifeform: rather like trying to come up with value for stolen painting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in light of what i previously explained about botnets, it is difficult to calculate the actual value of a particular 0day.
jborkl: One bankrupted the other , ala week and bitfunder
BingoBoingo: Seems to be
jborkl: So, there are two companies going btc belly up I have never even heard of
mircea_popescu: <fivezerotwo> so qntra has nice servers and nice inbound pipes <fivezerotwo> mats_cd03, totes will burn a 0day on this << i suppose this is the ultimate endorsement or something ?
mircea_popescu: from marquardt and mccarthy to kenna etc.
mircea_popescu: <Namworld> "Nefario" was STILL around? << yes, the "foundation" scammer group is looking after its own
jurov: you'd prefer to whip it in shape,eventually add -fstack-protector if you got decent compiler
ben_vulpes: jurov: i'm just trying to build 0.6.3 the way it seems to want building
jurov: Nefario said: Once you've been labelled a scammer, people are encouraged to deal with you << lol I missed "not" at first
kakobrekla: space missing in the last paragraph before 'Set'
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fivezerotwo: don't worry, there are plenty of less protected targets ;_;
mats_cd03: youre a cool dude for messing with people that lead public lives on the internets
fivezerotwo: mats_cd03, totes will burn a 0day on this
mats_cd03: fivezerotwo: youre gonna have to burn a 0day, if you even have access to those, mate
ben_vulpes: it would be expedient to download miniupnpc 1.6 from http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/ but what do to prevent mitm of that source?
Namworld: I wasn't aware he was staying in the space when he axed GLBSE.
ben_vulpes: am i reading this (https://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/miniupnpc) correctly? debian backports only has miniupnpc-1.5?
kakobrekla: ah thats old stuf
kakobrekla: cause your botnet is too pussy?
fivezerotwo: mats_cd03, later ;; kakobrekla digitalocean does at some point, but they are one of the more resilient hosts
kakobrekla: i really wonder if host will start to bitch at some point
kakobrekla: can you throw all you got at logs and keep it at full as long as you can?
mats_cd03: fivezerotwo: planning on targeting me? you've got my attention now
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's usually how they come when i'm involved.
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, relax, this will come in waves ;_;
mats_cd03: 19:45:29 <+fivezerotwo> irccloud looks like this: sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lexoqakyeznnmfjo << kek
mats_cd03: forces devs to do some programming gymnastics with /noexec
mats_cd03: immutability is one of the design mitigations in docker
undata: all these config management systems are trying to fix the bustedness of linux
undata: ben_vulpes: system config should be built into the OS, and each act of changing it should leave a snail trail
mats_cd03: http://www.acsac.org/2010/openconf/modules/request.php?module=oc_program&action=view.php&a&id=69&type=2 << the honeymoon effect and the role of legacy code in 0day vulns
ben_vulpes: i see only abstractions that help manage one set of complexities while making more complexities.
undata: mircea_popescu: You can make changes to a docker by hand, then make an image from that. It's better to stick to your Dockerfile, but you don't have to.
xanthyos: where's the exit door from the chapel perilous?
fivezerotwo: irccloud looks like this: sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lexoqakyeznnmfjo
mircea_popescu: undata how would a script "understand the system state" once you actually need it to do so ? (ie, you no longer do)
mircea_popescu: it comes from the cloacal opening of an intestine.
undata: mircea_popescu: docker does run the risk of merely snapshotting the wad of mess and saying "ok, this wad worked, kind of" rather than actually understanding system state
mats_cd03: its not known to not be crud.
mats_cd03: the VM is for protecting you from docker, nto the other way around
mircea_popescu: even better for "managing system state" would be making the system simpler.
undata: I like docker for managing system state; I'm asking what the security value add is above just using the VM directly.
undata: mircea_popescu: you get that with host/vm, why docker?
mircea_popescu: no, that was the question.
mats_cd03: and if you have a competent sysadmin it does actually make the developers job easier
mats_cd03: 18:29:29 <+mircea_popescu> mats_cd03: mitigation involves layering. SELinux, one docker per vm, <<< trhen why even bother ? am i dense ?
undata: honestly though, people would just assume it was a sign of the end times and double down on irrationality
xanthyos: i'd love to see the demand for food and fuel plummet
undata: I'd love to see our system try to grapple with an actual problem.
undata: an actual outbreak of ebola in the US would be good for this country, though completely unlikely.
assbot: Let Them DIE!!! - YouTube
xanthyos: i gotta tell you i've always been a liberal but the way the left is handling this ebola thing as a race issue makes me fucking crazy
xanthyos: is that from the desk piece halfway through an episode of bill maher?
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2014 00:09:52; kakobrekla: maybe this one http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#884000
kakobrekla: also, the lucky winner is mp. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2014#881402 ☝︎
ThickAsThieves: omg Blair's Death Rain Habanero Pepper Chips -- totally unnecessary
ThickAsThieves: i need to re-up soon i think
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/address/16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3 << holy shit, i made like a bitcoin selling trilema this month.
xanthyos: i think jesus was unclear as well, and that's why he signed a new contract with verizon
mircea_popescu: unclear wtf it means tho.
xanthyos: the "law" of torah
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE so is that you in the pic, actually ?
xanthyos: the jews seem to be more interested in tradition and ritual than ethics