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asciilifeform: ll be issued by a computer program, in absentia. In keeping with current practice, both the charge and the evidence will be kept secret. The newly minted felons will be dropped from voter rolls, their passports cancelled, their bank accounts confiscated, and their employment (if any) terminated. They will receive form letters informing them of their sentence but most of them will be unable to read it because fun
asciilifeform: 'With small businesses and private enterprise made illegal, most people will be forced to resort to illegal activities, under the watchful eye of the NSA. But since putting even more people in jail will be prohibitively expensive, a new, streamlined process of dispensing justice will be put into place: the NSA and the Justice Department will link computer systems, and verdicts of fraud and suspended sentences wi
asciilifeform: the future of u.s. taxation and criminal justice is probably the model of the 'traffic camera.'
asciilifeform: as if they needed money.
decimation: it will be amusing to see who 'starves'
decimation: I strongly suspect that spending more money on nsa is going to be politically untenable for the near future
asciilifeform: or nsa contract lineup fell through this year
asciilifeform: that only the gods know the bottom of
decimation: either they are really really bad at making chips, or they are really really bad at choosing what to stamp out
decimation: yeah I agree. how can a factory that can produce chips which rival intel's lithography 'lose money'?
asciilifeform: decimation: it's laundry / merit-washing. we simply don't know the details.
decimation: asciilifeform: it makes one sad. "why keep banging head against wall, and digging bigger ditch? why not try something really different"
asciilifeform: decimation: thing is, this is not like you or i paying a junkman $100 to be rid of an ancient car
undata: just streaming commands to some canvas wrapper via a websocket
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see that IBM had to pay $1.5 bn to get rid of their chip business?
undata: asciilifeform: regarding the format wars post, I've fantasized about choosing to build for the canvas tag and forgetting the rest of the browser entirely
decimation: exactly. And everyone has been told since they were little that execution is dangerous - which is on c-machines
asciilifeform: decimation: but 'surgeon' and 'maniac' are different items, though each cuts you open while you sleep.
asciilifeform: decimation: everybody seems shocked at that one
mircea_popescu: decimation no it had a web browser for a long time
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah it's true that the 'vision' of downloading and executing arbitrary code is exactly what the world needs
decimation: asciilifeform: it seems like a good idea on the surface, but in practice 90% of the web will be broken
asciilifeform: the sooner 'browser' dies as a paradigm, the better:
asciilifeform confesses to being rather uninterested in ugly-as-sin www browsing
decimation: really? I thought one had to download from the crazy lisp package repo
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see that the new emacs has a web-browser mode builtin?
decimation: The 'independent reserve' guys claim to use gpg signed email for customer support
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform decimation i think it quite likely that once nubsy gets on you'll get your book.
asciilifeform: but not sure if anyone is qualified to produce this
decimation: asciilifeform: me too
asciilifeform: and chances are i'm not the only one.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i would genuinely like that book. if someone wishes to make it happen.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck knows. i coulda sworn.
decimation: transactions are definitely stored in a Db * object, which appears to be the bdb C++ interface
asciilifeform: if not for the db crapolade, mine would be running on bare iron even now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you remember yourself, when telling the tale of why you didn't port it to msdos
mircea_popescu: so you're saying i have hallucinated this ?!
asciilifeform: srsly what is this, anybody can grab the ancient source
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` ^ that something you can do ?
decimation: that bitcoin-0.1 turd definitely depends on db_cxx.h, which seems to be bdb, but that isn't a full answer
mircea_popescu: satoshi is like costanza when it comes to implementation. pretty much every choice he has made, be it something to eat, something to wear, has been wrong.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
mircea_popescu: do not even get me started. they're using qt for fucks sake.
mircea_popescu: FOR TWO YEARS.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I doubt it, that would be crazy << o yeah ? THE WALLET FILE WAS UNENCRYPTED.
mircea_popescu: but that was long, long ago.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> was the blockchain written directly to disk at some point in the reference client's history? << yes.
decimation: hashs check the website, fwiw
asciilifeform did not check the signature
decimation: asciilifeform: is that the 'satoshi' original turd?
ben_vulpes: still working through the changelog
decimation: the code is out there for reading though, I suppose
decimation: I doubt it, that would be crazy
ben_vulpes: decimation: i imagined something like that, yeah.
ben_vulpes does not actually understand how the infinite layers of the modern v.n. architecture does it's nasty business.
decimation: like, as a flat text file or something?
ben_vulpes: as opposed to BDB
ben_vulpes: was the blockchain written directly to disk at some point in the reference client's history?
AdamIR2: On that note... I need to go back and so some work. Thanks for your questions.
AdamIR2: I realise now you were talking about Michael Go, and his involvement with MMADX several years ago. I don't know the details of his involvement with that, but it is not connected with Independent Reserve.
AdamIRAway: Adrian Przelozny, Lasanka Perera and myself were the co-founders of Independent Reserve.
AdamIRAway: mircea_popescu... I've just been trying to get some context regarding what you were saying before... I thought you were referring to something Lasanka had been involved with...
mircea_popescu: AdamIRAway anyway, i think i get the basic idea. it's not bad or anything. get in the wot so bitcoin people have a direct point of contact and other than that, time will tell.
RagnarDanneskjol: dont mind me - sounded more like advert than adderessing relevant Qs
AdamIRAway: Sorry they haven't been to your liking, I will be happy to leave if it's not welcome.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nao I have more to read
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol it's the trade gazette, what do you want. ppl gotta be able to answer.
RagnarDanneskjol wonders how long this infomercial for indy reserve will go on (also do they have shiraz blend?).. changes channel
AdamIRAway: Our Compliance Specialist has a lot of experience in compliance obviously, and through her we have engaged Baker & McKenzie for specialised legal advice as required.
mircea_popescu: ok so basically you and the prezelozny fellow made this thing and reached out for some consultancy work from finance and legal peeps ?
mircea_popescu: o, it goes the other way ?
AdamIRAway: Myself, along with Adrian Przelozny are the majority shareholders of Independent Reserve.
mircea_popescu: so this thing has existed for the past 15 months ?!
AdamIRAway: Secondly, we aren't using any software from Admiral Markets or MMDX, not a single line of code, I don't know what systems they've used previously. Our systems have been developed in-house over the past 15 months.
AdamIRAway: First of all, I'm not involved in any waay with MMDX - I hadn't heard of them until you mentioned it.
assbot: Spending the “Help Stamp Out CVS In Your Lifetime” fund
mircea_popescu: well that's good, that's what you're here for after all.
AdamIRAway: mircea_popescu... I think you have the wrong idea about several points.
mircea_popescu: now my thinking is that you couldn't have spent very long making a dedicated platform, seeing how this just happened this year, so you're either reusing one or the other. i somehow doubt it's admiral's platform, so prolly im guessing mmdx's ?
mircea_popescu: yes. the context is like so : an old time forex broker with a kind-of mlm-y past that used to do metals and everything got together with a guy that had a company that was going to trade debt advertised then suddenly disappeared. they hired a coupla software dudes (you and the Przelozny) and a very clueless legal chick with no practice. in this context, i'm trying to figure out exactly how did said debt trading platform
AdamIRAway: decimation... I'm not sure how you interpreted my statement to reach that viewpoint. We take both our USD and XBT reserves very seriously, and will be looking to provide cryptograhic proof of our Bitcoin reserves shortly.
mircea_popescu: anyway, since michael go doesn't seem on the menu, how did you get Admiral Markets's very own Lasanka Perera ? or what exactly is the arrangement there ?
decimation: AdamIRAway: that pretty much sounds to me something like "we plan to float bitcoin and hope we don't get screwed"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But in future world a shoebox full a benjies buys what? A single tomatoe?
AdamIRAway: decimation... Pwc will be auditing our finances, and we will make their report available. We are looking to engage them to audit our XBT reserves as well shortly. We aren't currently transparent day-to-day regarding our reserves/balances, but it is obviously something we will be looking to do shortly after our launch.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he'll be happy to pay his grocery bill with them.
decimation: people who tell the masses how to think and vote tend to maintain their position
BingoBoingo: AdamIRAway: Does you exchange handle shoebox in the mail full of paper money transactions?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, didja know that what actually broke the chicago mob was their ill advised attempt to muscle hollywood into shape ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla if you have a clue how to go through the aussie corp register, it's company code: 34149069910
asciilifeform: of their profits are being used to pay executive salaries this will have to be built at extremely low cost. Deficiencies in the softwrae will enable vast numbers of Americans to download Bambi for free, their ISPs will be forced to rat them out, and they will all get to see Martha's Stewart's cell in West Virginia first hand...' (greenspun. http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2005/03/08/#a7726 )
asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies. Because all ☟︎☟︎☟︎
decimation: or is that only for pwc?
decimation: AdamIRAway: are you going to be transparent to your customers w.r.t. actual daily balances?
mircea_popescu: "MMADX hopes to turn profitable in 2015. According to the presentation, its projected earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization for fiscal 2016 and 2017 are A$23.2 million and A$34.2 million, respectively. At that time, or before, the company could undertake an initial public offering, the presentation states."
AdamIRAway: decimation... it's important to take KYC/AML seriously, in order for us to work with banks. We do our best to make it as painless as possible for our clients, if we can.
AdamIRAway: 7. And again, this only applies to Australians. Because we are an open market exchange (not a brokerage), we are not obligated to charge 10 % GST on transactions, like other brokerages in the region do.
gabriel_laddel: "to develop a platform that *we believe* is secure, robust and stable..."
mike_c: PWC, the bitcoin experts! :)
AdamIRAway: 6. I think we are the only Bitcoin exchange in the world that is audited by one of the major auditing firms - PricewaterhouseCoopers