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mircea_popescu: pike really was much more important instrument than commonly realised. i would say it was the first AND FOREMOST man-made tool.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought it started in stone age, where 'fair', i.e. can't effectively make a usable-later pile of ~anyffin
asciilifeform: i'ma guess 3 -- clitler , 2 -- sovok, 1 -- bismarck ?
mircea_popescu: why and wherefore he gave up, i do not know.
mircea_popescu: i suppose what happened to all of them is the same thing : one day their derealization came home to roost, and they were so alienated from their own existence, they hadn't actually prepared for the event.
mircea_popescu: i should prolly have a better link, there's somewhere in the logs where we discuss this mystery, of why and wherefore soviet thinking man simply laid over and gave up in the 80s.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936920 << the problenm with this retelling is that it describes the production of the corpse from the pov of gut bacteria. superficially this may even stand, but it's uncausative imo. i'm still not clear why exactly su intellectually imploded
mircea_popescu: i thought was some other
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:55:10 asciilifeform: ( why nao cement -- i have nfi. it aint as if anyffin was ever likely to rise outta that grave. )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i can't conceive how the pantsuit will manage to get a candidate. for one thing, trump did in fact end the dnc, as discussed in the logs.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-06-02 06:48:29 a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 16:24 mod6: asciilifeform: I'm just trying to put together the monthy address; In one to three sentences cna you help me summarize what is going on with glibc/libnss?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re glibc -- iirc subj of inquiry was re the 'nss' thing, which i found to be the sublib that drags in dynamicism, dns, etc
snsabot: Logged on 2017-01-16 14:33:06 asciilifeform: one of the reasons i still, despite everything, have > 0 respect for rms, is that of all of these figures, he never had 'about-face' moment.
mircea_popescu: this is a werid q, if i published it why yo uask and if i did not how you know ?
BingoBoingo: I don't see Putin's shift in US-relations as coming too late. US was very committed to blowing its Cold War winnings in Iraq. WTF was Russia to do other than work on the S-400 anti-"Shock and Awe" system and let the US burn treasure on everything else.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i.e. putin is ~exactly rms
mircea_popescu: whole rms thing and what i suppose is here the continuation.
mircea_popescu: i find it quite funny this coincidentallies with discussions of leucosis.
asciilifeform: $process of course did not start with andropov. but with the derps who poisoned stalin, who was , near as i can tell, gettin' ready to purge the 'party elite' an' replace it w/ the young, vigorous folx who did loyal wetwork for him earlier.
asciilifeform: ( why nao cement -- i have nfi. it aint as if anyffin was ever likely to rise outta that grave. )
asciilifeform: i suspect it'll be a trans-'chix' or similar.
BingoBoingo: I suspect English doesn't allow "controlled burns" in the way Mandarin does
asciilifeform: i suppose he'll have to find a new hallway to hobo in
asciilifeform: as i understand, the 'modern current' (i.e. 'ifuckinglovescience'(tm)(r) zombie worship) existed even in 'the day of plato' -- the pythagoreans & co
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't count the ustards as part of culture. saying "math died because mamie in chicago" is entirely like saying "medicien died because mamie in zimbabwe"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, not deceased afaik, but kinda retired at about the same time. i did my thesis with him.
mircea_popescu: aand since i managed to make myself all fucking sad reading http://trilema.com/2010/prea-multa-presiune/ , might as well archive this
mircea_popescu: full ten years ago, at a wedding, where i was the godfather and took chet to be godmother, the ~other pair~ of godparents (romanians do this groom / bride big/small wedding godparents thing) were these average middle class 30something couple. and the dude finally got sufficiently drunk at the party so as to propose to her! assuring her of his protection and etcetera! in a slurred drunk nonsense, and with his fucking wife r
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall we did have some ad-hoc interdict specced five years ago, is that it ? what's the situation re namesimilarity at registration ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:36:48 hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:07:56 asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
trinque: I see a hanbot-abroad registered. http://wot.deedbot.org/32553F43A24B86DA3750F0E2F8692ACD2821F6D6.html
asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 06:51:35 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936626 << heh. i guess the only practicable way to rent in the us is actually like lobbes stumbled upon : pick up chicks, don't put them on the lease, work them for the keep and dismiss when done.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-07 14:22:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:15:54 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936596 << i imagine the ~perceived~ pressure on nameless womanhood is quite immense, "omfg, what do i say, what if they make fun of me, they're gonna say i never installed linux from scratch as if it implied i'm half a dead man riding about on half a dead rabbit!!!"
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936641 << after the gentoo bottling experience I barely wanted anything to do with computers, so by now it'd be a selector for sense to have not.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:10:54 mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://trilema.com/2019/concedo-hoc/#comment-131427 : i'm pretty sure i read trinque referring to the laughable playdates of the menalone as "wankastery" / "wankasteries", as a transparent adjustment of monastery to more truthfully reflect its real function
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936635 << couldn't tell ya. every once in a while I crack off a halfway decent neologism
hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
hanbot: lol ty. what a fun head i've got.
lobbes: I guess what I'm asking is should we bother patching for all permutations of possible formats, or just stick with diana_coman's original and state what it expects. To my limited eye I'd say the latter is the saner approach
lobbes: still is value in having the initial vpatch, I think. Though there is the point that conversion never ends
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936774 << fwiw, during my testing of the irssi converter I noticed my irssi had very different formatting than the example you provided (It padded the < nicks > for e.g., and formatted the timestamps slightly different). Seems to be format variability between instances indeed
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> an; that australian fuckwit stockbroker who was defrauding dudes online and was then VERY SURPRISED when i had him fired / banned from trading wtf his name was << Harnett and you did that in 2012
mircea_popescu: an; that australian fuckwit stockbroker who was defrauding dudes online and was then VERY SURPRISED when i had him fired / banned from trading wtf his name was
BingoBoingo: I can't recall that one.
diana_coman: in the process I updated the awk importer too but I don't even know if it's any use given that I'm not 100% sure what is "irssi standard format" really
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 13:20:43 asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you fix your copy, i'ma reimport, ping me
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936741 - fixed and dump manually updated; it turned out the mess-up was caused by a mix-up of local log formats (ie ran like an idiot the awk script on the not-matching format; basically I have too many logs all around)
diana_coman: it's one of those things where I can't figure out if they each "thought" the same nonsensical way to end up with the same shit or they just copied it
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know, I had read precisely that sort of ads ad nauseam quite some year ago in local newspapers/whatevers in ploiesti/bucharest
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you fix your copy, i'ma reimport, ping me
diana_coman: yes; I was reading #o logs from some time back and noticed missing : ; checked in the db and they were missing there too although present in local irssi log.
diana_coman: maybe it's the converter's problem actually, I'll have to investigate it.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936654 << afaik it was the ameritards who even invented 'rent to own' scam to start with. i.e. where you 'buy' and get all the ~unwanted~ aspects of ownership (gotta do 100% of maintenance; if it wears down, replace at own expense -- there are people paying for 3 cars who have to walk, all over usa) but 0 of the desirable (i.e. ~actually~ owning, ability to sell)
lobbes: Thank you (and I mean that in earnest)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-16 09:13:02 mircea_popescu: there's more, and besideswhich a lot more to all of these foregoing parts, but holy hell... seriously, nobody ever thinks of things or what is the problem here !?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936649 << this is good idea. i'ma sew it exactly like so, later this wk -- unless lobbes et al beat me to it
diana_coman: asciilifeform: is there a link to "first day of log" for a chan? I don't know if I just can't see it or there just isn't one.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936628 << or rather, "that if you expect the king to send his men to make YOU a profit, think again". if you wanna turn a profit, you gotta do it ~OUTSIDE OF INCA~. hence i suppose all the "massage parlours" etc.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936626 << heh. i guess the only practicable way to rent in the us is actually like lobbes stumbled upon : pick up chicks, don't put them on the lease, work them for the keep and dismiss when done.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose.
mircea_popescu: so that no hussy who utterly deserved it gets raped occasionally (ie, whenever someone can be arsed, which comes to way the fuck less frequently than she'd like), everyone gets raped all the time in all the holes. great fucking deal, what can i tell you. let them be raped in the workplace, they'll be ok.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: fwiw I suspect what "gotta be going on" is ~= fear (coming out of being entirely and utterly unprepared to deal with it if "not believing")
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:12:41 asciilifeform: i dunno whether to believe, but he said that even paying on schedule erry single month is unusual nowadays...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:59:04 mp_en_viaje: i can almost hear the cageworthy old woman impelling the nonsense, too, "oh, why don't you want to do $random-stupid-shit, ~are you too scared?!?!?!?~".
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936615 << i have very close relations with my assorted an' endless pile of various landlords scattered on 4 continents also. and I LIKE IT THAT WAY.
mircea_popescu: there's more, and besideswhich a lot more to all of these foregoing parts, but holy hell... seriously, nobody ever thinks of things or what is the problem here !?
mircea_popescu: if you're a young man, YOU DO NOT BUY ILLIQUID, NON-NEGOTIABLE ANYTHING!!!! i don't mean, with money. i mean with anything. you have enough sense to keep your sexual relationships at will rather than get fucking married, fine, but the same applies throughout.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:06:04 lobbes: indeed, is a scam. I fell for the 'well, my mortgage will be a fixed cost vs rising rents' thinking, but neglected to factor in cost of maintenance, rising property taxes, whathaveyou
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:05:24 asciilifeform: (i.e. when 'sells', gets 0)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936605 << actually since we're doing this, i'd like the whole thing reviewed, as follows :
mircea_popescu: then of course there's the hallucinatoria of the coy reflex, girl who's never taken a stroll nude down the busy street imagines it's gonna be the end of the world!!! much like the guy taking a stumble imagines everyone's watchin' an' judging, AS FUCKING IF they could unglue their eyes off the i[nca[pods long enough to notice their own fucking shoes are on fire.
mircea_popescu: (i dun even mean trinque specifically, the naive gent's a universal, anyone who never seriously thought about these things in these forms for these reasons five or ten years ago, meaning practically everyone.)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936596 << i imagine the ~perceived~ pressure on nameless womanhood is quite immense, "omfg, what do i say, what if they make fun of me, they're gonna say i never installed linux from scratch as if it implied i'm half a dead man riding about on half a dead rabbit!!!"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:52:11 asciilifeform: will be a gnarly knob, cuz under no circumstances am i running a bot that dun cross-echo in ~my~ castle.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936602 << okay, but what's the problem with it echoing "[trilema] <mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!" rather than "<mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:49:08 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936575 << i can either switch off echo from cross-chan or put in marker , let mircea_popescu say which when he wakes up ( will make it a knob. )
mircea_popescu: but i can't seem to find it ?!
mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://trilema.com/2019/concedo-hoc/#comment-131427 : i'm pretty sure i read trinque referring to the laughable playdates of the menalone as "wankastery" / "wankasteries", as a transparent adjustment of monastery to more truthfully reflect its real function
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 20:41:10 lobbes: Of course I'm already regretting that resignation thinking I did that with my classic 'jumpy reasoning'; I think what I really needed was clarity, which comes from communication, which has been working pretty well so far.
diana_coman: fwiw, I think the whole thread there belonged better in #o possibly starting with http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936342
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform a [#chan] marker from bot sounds good to me; in #o for now at least I'd rather it cross-echoes indeed but I can see also why this might not be appropriate for #t
asciilifeform: ( yet someone builds the blocks of flats . how they make profit ? very simply, tlp-style, i.e. by leasing to welfare mooches, these come w/ guaranteed subsidy from usg. )
asciilifeform: lobbes: i found out that in many locales in tardschwitz, incl. this 1, tenants 'have rights'(tm)(r) and can take yr+ to extract one if he stops paying... and that this happens regularly
asciilifeform: asciilifeform to current landlord (another ru d00d) : 'you can keep the weather station tower when i go, i won't need it where i'll go'
lobbes: but I suspect you are correct re: human owners + geographics. Charlotte is a typical "bubble" city; low corp tax rates attract the banking industry, which fuels the need for meatworkers, but apparently NC doesn't produce skilled-enough workers on its own, so for the last few decades has been importing 'em (virtually all the people on my team are not from NC)
asciilifeform: him:'usually i have to redo the drywall when folx leave, but yours is perfect, how?' a: (holding tin of spackle behind back) 'by magic'
lobbes: oh yeah, my mom used to be a landlord back before I was born. Would tell horror stories of tenants writing curses in literal shit on the walls when she had to evict them for non-payment
asciilifeform: i dunno whether to believe, but he said that even paying on schedule erry single month is unusual nowadays...
lobbes: i.e. I have a long road ahead of me out of poorandstupid-town
lobbes: indeed, is a scam. I fell for the 'well, my mortgage will be a fixed cost vs rising rents' thinking, but neglected to factor in cost of maintenance, rising property taxes, whathaveyou
asciilifeform: (i.e. when 'sells', gets 0)
lobbes: ^ this is correct. It is a liability right now, not an asset as far as I'm concerned
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936574 << iirc lobbes said that he had it on credit, rather than owned. (but can't find in log, so maybe i dreamed it)
asciilifeform: will be a gnarly knob, cuz under no circumstances am i running a bot that dun cross-echo in ~my~ castle.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 18:45:12 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936554 << holy shit this can't continue, if you folk are going to let the logreaders read from other channels (which, honestly, i'm considering banning) at least prepend an [channel name] before or something.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936575 << i can either switch off echo from cross-chan or put in marker , let mircea_popescu say which when he wakes up ( will make it a knob. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:46:49 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936066 << I trolled the shit out of girl earlier, "babe, we're moving to Portland" and "What the fuck?! I'm not living in blue-haired hell!" panicpanicpanic before I started cackling. I think I'll be ok.