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mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, fixed ; nfi how it got set up that way.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 14:18:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: diana_coman: Yeah, thanks. BB made me a backup before the drives were pulled. I've placed all of the tbf website files back onto the original vps that used to host the site. So far, seems everything is working ok (as far as I can tell), other than the Mailing List.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 09:59:22 diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ~2MB/s download. a++
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman for ftp! 'warm lamp sound!' it worx.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno, i was able to stand up phuctor. ( and , not long ago, diana_coman -- logger . ) but then again these aint the 'hungriest' known proggies re deps.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik it'd do no harm to enable both sets of flags ; simply makes for a slightly moar 'obese' kernel.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 13:50:13 diana_coman: asciilifeform: re intel, I have an old intel excavated out and waiting to have this set on it, if I get around to do it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to ~make~ a tarball that can be used in place of 'r2', using a working install w/ whatevr customizations in it, mount the fs at a /mnt/gentoo and then e.g. tar pcvfz diana_coman-gentoo.tar.gz /mnt/gentoo . this snapshot can then be used to replicate $box to whatever others.
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman , forgot to mention a detail that perhaps obv., but maybe not, and may prove useful in your 'make fleet o'boxen' :
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, not problem of so many customers, but of so few. remnant poblems, see.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this partic. shop appears to be a monopoly in ~400km radius of asciilifeform's chair. ( all the other dc, serve only lulazon, usg, etc )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wonder whether my entire inquiry hit the dustbin cuz mentioned 'ddos' at all.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-12 diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, the point is *before* anything; because they won't quite want to say/admit "yes, you pay for us to disconnect you" but onth if they say "no, we don't", they are in a bigger pickle when they do so...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma incorporate the linked items (apparently missed on 1st pass) but will wait for final verdict from diana_coman in next 2d if no one else is in a burning hurry to have recipe.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: is '32' the only omission ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can you post your amended ver. plox ? i'ma diff, read, sign .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:29:21 diana_coman: asciilifeform: at point 3-2 I started the boot partition at 32 (because lilo needs 0-31)
asciilifeform specifically omitted discussion of adjustments that would require 'world rebuilds', it would catastrophically delay diana_coman et al. but eventually will have to be discussed, in re: e.g. ssl removal.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed. off the shelf gentoo includes it, because mirrors tend to be sslistic
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:54:35 diana_coman: asciilifeform: for eulora I need: app-misc/screen, ftjam, net-misc/curl (that runs into the openssl shit), dev-db/mysql (5.6.39 or earlier) + cs and cal3d but those are frozen versions/not portage anyway
asciilifeform: but to revisit upstack -- i pulled this item off shelf to help diana_coman , who has legacy softs that are known not to work in cuntoo. and for own needs, because my attempts to bake a working cuntoo have failed ( and take ~day or so to even fire off, so difficult so far to debug . )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:48:02 diana_coman: aha; I actually had the mysql precise thing in one of the backups but rather deeply burried so at the time of the test I went with this mirror; but as I was saying, by default I rather tend to unplug the network cable when installing systems.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:46:20 diana_coman: asciilifeform: the mirrors I have in my /etc/portage/make.conf after getting rid of dead ones + adding at least one with required mysql: gentoo.gossamerhost.com gentoo.supp.name mirror.neolabs.kz/gentoo/pub mirrors.xservers.ro/gentoo/ gentoo/bloodhost.ru gentoo.wheel.sk bbgentoo.ilb.ru
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:45:39 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma also include prebuilt kernel in this one, so that if no adjustment is req'd, the (potentially hours) taken up by build of the kernel, can be avoided in installation
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:44:55 asciilifeform: diana_coman: in the single-stick item i'm baking atm, there is a dir where all the turnable-knob configs are in , and copied to the new disk as part of install. so user can set'em up beforehand, rather than to work inside the chroot.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:43:57 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to put as much as possible correct config in the tarball, rather than have user '1st fix a, then fix b, etc'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is. i have 4 diff gnats on the box where now sitting.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: possibly i oughta refrain from sealing in a gnat then, it could interfere with your process
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do we want ave1's last gnat in the canister ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: python selector is also set in r2 tar, plox to confirm.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw i used network in testbed solely to get shell on the box, did not 'emerge' etc. anyffin.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:42:11 asciilifeform: diana_coman: this i fixed in the r2 tarball's /etc/lilo.conf
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if the r4 recipe is in fact insufficient for the current smg process , i'ma then revise. otherwise i'ma proceed with the streamlined 1stick thing, it will be tested later in the wk , w/ own hands and anyone else who wants this type of sys.
asciilifeform: ideally ( as said already by diana_coman in #o ) we abolish the req for external mirrors.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman , i'ma include these in place of the dead.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma also include prebuilt kernel in this one, so that if no adjustment is req'd, the (potentially hours) taken up by build of the kernel, can be avoided in installation
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in the single-stick item i'm baking atm, there is a dir where all the turnable-knob configs are in , and copied to the new disk as part of install. so user can set'em up beforehand, rather than to work inside the chroot.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to put as much as possible correct config in the tarball, rather than have user '1st fix a, then fix b, etc'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: good point (tho that part imho really belongs on FG www page; sadly it is lost at sea atm)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this i fixed in the r2 tarball's /etc/lilo.conf
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-12 diana_coman: ah, found it; it's in device drivers/usb support/usb serial converter support/usb prolific shit
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-12 diana_coman: I looked about, changed the one for my usual kbd (the emergency ps kbd is not that comfy on fingers) and otherwise looked around but I didn't see something directly needed/to change
asciilifeform: so far only oddity reported seems to be where diana_coman had a keyboard that wouldn't go , tho asciilifeform could not reproduce .
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-11 diana_coman: wtf can't quite find the thing; the motherboard is Asus M5A78L-M PLUS/USB3 HDMI Motherboard; the cpu is AMD FX-8350 Eight Core to 4.2GHz
asciilifeform: diana_coman's was a 'fx' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: should need adjustment only in kernel flags : no amd-exclusive cpu instrs were used in building the binaries (given the vintage of the cpu targeted, none exist such that would fall into this trap)
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, important to make sure there's no splits whatsoever, now, when fresh in memory
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you need an intel version, plz lemme know, i in fact excavated a 'xeon' recently on which can be tried.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, was the item you applied actually and formally the item deeded ?
asciilifeform: ^ latest draft of recipe, as tested by asciilifeform and then diana_coman .
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, splendid!
asciilifeform: congrats diana_coman !
asciilifeform: ( full thrd in #o , for anyone else requiring this item ; tho iirc no one but diana_coman & asciilifeform used )
asciilifeform: update re that gentoo : appears to meet req ; will deed updated recipe after item fully put through paces on diana_coman's side .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aside from 'help diana_coman get smg despite isp lost at sea' in general , not being a latech, asciilifeform wants to make proper 'walls', rather than ' asciilifeform holds up the wall ' walls. in the spirit of 'publish fg schems' etc.
asciilifeform: if diana_coman et al ask , i'ma make a 1-stick mechanized installer for this . presently is hand-cranked recipe .
asciilifeform: ^ mainly for diana_coman . physically tested on a 'e350' amd, excavated for the occasion. req'd 0 changes to kernel config !!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:43:50 asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , et al, ran the risk/roi calculation and it only came out in favour of FG vs. intel rng because thought that piz could never die or that iron can be teleported , but w/ dead piz and realization that cannot be teleported -- goes other way, then so wills allah -- but asciilifeform objects to the accusation of 'scam'. erryone knew for what signed up.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, aite.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was brought up and i'm answerable for it, by oath.
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , et al, ran the risk/roi calculation and it only came out in favour of FG vs. intel rng because thought that piz could never die or that iron can be teleported , but w/ dead piz and realization that cannot be teleported -- goes other way, then so wills allah -- but asciilifeform objects to the accusation of 'scam'. erryone knew for what signed up.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, that work ?
mp_en_viaje: now, to continue the original diana_coman q : it seems maybe we don't have to answer this in any definitive sense just yet
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the config as given is amdistic correct.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if intel then recompile . if amd, will run as given.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: nope. all you need is a box with empty space, for instance ~any 2u.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944670 .
mp_en_viaje: as things stand right now, in point of fact as diana_coman might well point out, the ~one argument available from strict minigame pov as to why even get test server there was "save on the hassle of trying to reproduce env".
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, as far as any practical concern goes, we owned pizarro just fine. ownership is not the problem ; but customization puts undue power in the hand of the "Craftsman", who will imediatelly turn around to fuck you over.
billymg: BingoBoingo: i took a snapshot of my blog db when piz briefly came back after the unexpected outage, and i have local copies of my patches (i see diana_coman mirrored the mp-wp patches, but i also have the mp-wp-tests patches)
asciilifeform: ^ on request of diana_coman .
mp_en_viaje: since diana_coman rated you
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 09:41:58 diana_coman: and after all the time-wasting, london-guy fails; at least it's consistent with expectations.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i thought he's from london
deedbot: diana_coman rated Metronix 2 << Indonesian ISP with 10 years close connection to local ISP; can invoice via deedbot; currently out of capacity for colo.
deedbot: diana_coman rated crowncloud_ 2 << Australian ISP with US dc-partner; can invoice via deedbot.
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : all further q's for asciilifeform , in castles plox. here i'ma answer if invoked by mp and not otherwise.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma answer, 1s
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, report on blog later too i imagine ?
asciilifeform: right-NAO! can only be done via diana_coman's method .
asciilifeform: this naturally does ~not~ give same 'bang for buck' as 'whole cage, motherfucker!' and mp_en_viaje -- barfs predictably. tho i was under impression that diana_coman also shopping for less than whole cage.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun dispute that it's useful. but i do not know how to do it reliably.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: apparently i'm too stupid to ride properly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you need a 2nd pair of hands, i'ma follow your instruction to look for 'human'. but atm strongly suspect that we will have to ride horses.
asciilifeform: apologies , diana_coman , looong day.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 15:46:17 diana_coman: fwiw I don't mind it if anyone actually wants to ride maxim but note that their "uptake" of anything proved indeed 1mm deep; just yest I had to ask *again* for the same thing I had previously asked
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i assume you read the discussion re 'horse' ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my approach was to find a ~reasonable~ dc to which can get with own hands. and to fall on the grenade of paying it from pocket. but i can see wai mp_en_viaje barfed.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that's pretty good (rare) .
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Maxihost was pretty retarded with their formalism last time I searched in depth. Maybe someone else in Brasil is more responsive?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this promises to be uphill battle. i at least did not demand 'oh hey , only dc in 400km radius, will ya register w/deedbot ?'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if yer ~leasing~ a box, will get what the people have, not what you want. even in that ukr thing diana_coman found that supposedly opterons. they'll be with ipmi etc. this is inevitable.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: so far emailing the places can physically reach. returned 1 output. but if you're overwhelmed, pgp piece of victim list and what-do-demand and i'ma help.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'email errybody' is Right Thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i aint about to question your methods.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: took me all of 20m of phone to get the troof outta'em