asciilifeform: i think BingoBoingo linked to one vendor recently.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laugh, but in usa there are folks who mod that rifle to take belt.

asciilifeform: there are even tricks to turn some extant models into a usable 'microscope.'

asciilifeform: i own such a mouse, came with a prehistoric 'sun pizza box.' they have very little in common with modern optical mice - simply a pair of photodiodes and matching emitters

asciilifeform: punkman: can easily use the internals of a regular mouse for the electronics.

asciilifeform: ^ that was it

asciilifeform: punkman: if you own a vacuum chamber - dry therein.

asciilifeform: punkman: electronics generally are to be washed with cold water, and then again with ethanol.

asciilifeform: at some point, perhaps, a major mine operator will be pwned and his crown jewels throw to the mob. then we can study live code.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as mircea_popescu pointed out, miners have almost nothing to gain - and everything to lose - by posting weaponized code.

asciilifeform: in the 'one hash/sec, one vote' sense

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in the sense that 'pool administrators' determine what bitcoin even -is-

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-10-2014#894568 << beginning of that thread, for those who slept through it ☝︎

asciilifeform: i'll guess that he started with a clean satoshi-era snapshot - brought up to compatibility with extant network

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as it is, i venture to guess that it's been done, so far, only by folks who live and die by the result, and aren't terribly eager to share live 'weaponized' code (people such as mircea)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if it were trivial, it would've been done by a dilettante and result posted publicly.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you think we're the first to try ripping the graffiti off ?

asciilifeform: punkman: all rubber membrane keyboards (virtually anything you'll find in a store today) are washable.

asciilifeform: ask them.

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: recall the 'buried treasure' discussion?

asciilifeform: jurov: afaik, that junk is only ever sold if owner died or 'needs the money'

asciilifeform: i dare to hypothesise an inevitable, 'zoological' enmity between folks who own, e.g., picasso canvas, (and understand why they own it!) - and bitcoin.

asciilifeform: re: picassos as scrip for fraction of total planetary wealth: see also ancient thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607216 ☝︎

asciilifeform: threadbare flock, butterball priests, as often is the case

asciilifeform: if theyre krugmanites, they have no wealth to speak of << don't conflate the priests and their flock

asciilifeform: undata: 'clitler' is the next annointed fuhrer. afaik this has been settled.

asciilifeform: i did specify that the pedigreed canvases and pcbs signed by steve jobs are analogous to bitcoin, rather than, say, gold - because, on account of gold being to some degree accessible to plebes, elaborate measures are taken to depress its price - no such equivalent for the picassos.

asciilifeform: that's for the plebes, bred to be eaten

asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: how many of them keep their wealth in plain usd ?

asciilifeform: i just love how the krugman shitgnomes prattle on about the need for physical 'use-value' in currencies and then go on to bid on apple-1 pcbs and jackson pollack paintings

asciilifeform: who was it who had the essay re: how rich folks use auctionable rarities as a kind of 'bitcoin' but with higher overhead costs ?

asciilifeform: well, theft, and robbery.

asciilifeform: jurov: perhaps i should not have said 'mining' specifically. idea here is that once the buggers give up trying to destroy bitcoin, they will transition to employing any and all tools at their disposal - for robbery.

asciilifeform is not equipped with the evidence needed to agree (or not) with 'it's mostly ok'

asciilifeform: or, at the very least, prevent the 'wrong people' from building.

asciilifeform: it is far cheaper and easier to steal existing capacity.

asciilifeform: but they won't.

asciilifeform: at any rate, btc mining is the 'fulda gap moment' for all of these folks. all the shitgnomery corrupting, subverting computing mechanisms of every kind - suddenly, it all had a purpose.

asciilifeform: was, as i understand, the hypothesis

asciilifeform: the answer is - that it likely is. but - certain of its subjects, close to the chicken, will snatch opportunities to bolt on a new, mechanical head.

asciilifeform: incidentally, herr musk has given us, free of charge, an answer to mircea_popescu's puzzle - that of whether usg apparatus is an inevitably-harmless headless chicken.

asciilifeform: (see entire thread)

asciilifeform: no prizes for guessing the -actual- motivation.

asciilifeform: musk, mr y, some nameless folks from usg, will get together very soon and - if you're known to own a sufficiently large cluster of whateverthefuck - you gotta register... ☟︎

asciilifeform: the thing that will actually happen:

asciilifeform: not a problem, until they knock on yer door, and say 'what's all this. you were looking into star drives, werentcha.'

asciilifeform: let's imagine they get... interstellar shipping - banned.

asciilifeform: so far, there's been no reason for non-retarded people to care, because - we don't even have computers yet.

asciilifeform: (the folks mentioned in thing number one)

asciilifeform: the other thing happening is that the lizardmen will never pass by a good excuse to 'regulate' (ban) powerful general-purpose computers.

asciilifeform: re: elon musk: two thing happening. a fella named yudkowsky has been pushing for 'regulate ai, or it will destroy us all!' line for a little short of a decade now. with him, of course, to be the fuhrer. (see lenat discussion. he considers anyone trying to resurrect lenat's work, assuming it wasn't fraudulent - we don't actually know this - to be a dangerous criminal worthy of extermination.)

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the author of the exe diddler was dumb enough to be spotted, too (why patch all exes, and not look for the download to be part of a realistic luser browser session? retarded)

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i linked this here a day or so ago