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mircea_popescu: i suspek a noob is you. they're too deep as it is, seawater is corrosive and in any case a girl goop solvent.
mircea_popescu: this is fine, inasmuch as it has no ill effect and increases the general supply of lulz,
ryguy_`: as a kid i thought being a 'statesman' was a respectable thing
BingoBoingo: Oh I don't regret my lack of "mining," I regret thinking food as so valuable and not buying in grotesque quantity.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin difficulty august 2012 was... about hte same as atc difficulty august 2014.
mircea_popescu: http://www.fedsmith.com/2014/02/17/replacing-the-general-schedule-some-facts/ << stuff like this, incidentally, is subtly indicative of the usg failure. inasmuch as grand national-socialist schemes such as the gs are collapsing and being replaced, it's quite clear that in its quest to arrive at that "nobody can grow as much as a potato without asking for permission", the national-socialist government is moving away rat
mircea_popescu: as the period sort-of matches.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: be moar vigilant with teh monies << the problem with that article, as with all "studies" of its ilk, is that it makes the (generally reasonable, now not) herbi mistake, as detailed here : http://trilema.com/2014/no-argument/
asciilifeform: 'give' as in drop.
asciilifeform: (as per public specs)
asciilifeform: 'keyhole' is more famous as 'hubble telescope' (that one got turned upside-down.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i realised as i was typing that the connection is actually not as close as i'd have liked.
asciilifeform as 9 y.o. boy, tried in vain to buy a flat battery in usa, 'what is this pisshole'
mircea_popescu: As the protests in Ferguson, Missouri over police fatally shooting 19-year-old Mike Brown have raged through the past several nights, more than a few people have noticed how relatively quiet Facebook news feeds have been on the matter. While #Ferguson is a trending hashtag, Zeynep Tufekci pointed out at Medium that news about the violence was, as best, slow to percolate through her own feed, despite people posting libe
mircea_popescu: as predicted by... welll, everyone always.
mircea_popescu: curtis yarvin a footnote of meaninglessness in a larger discussion, as every fucking time.
mircea_popescu: doesn't say anything useful. to fish water is as unremarkable as air to you.
decimation: as ascii's quote of Mr. Yarvin points out, one would then make themselves a slave to Neptune, who isn't a forgiving master
ben_vulpes: i attended a particular hs (OES, for the lurkers), and rode the bus home instead of driving as I got more reading time out of the experience.
decimation: it is indoors, (b) there is not quite as much fire, and (c) there is less saluting, more screaming, and about the same amount of chanting."
mircea_popescu: maybe not as clean ultimately but certainly cleaner per unit effort.
mircea_popescu: decimation it's a curse hiding a blessing : in learning english as the pronounceable pigdin of computer symbols, one learns to disrespect the social conventions the language carries otherwise.
mircea_popescu: in this spirit : my old z80 clone had an english "codeword" instruction set printed out right on the kbd, as was fashionable at the time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry. << well no, see, electricity is still sold by the watt. whether you're in a hurry or not, you still need same wattage, so still are beholden to the same (rather high) cost. so i suppose "so long as you're making something small enough for your fun doing it to be worth the 0.001 cent to 1/4 dollar price transition"
mircea_popescu: "look how right we are, and how relevant to the future and general affairs as a going concern : even this bitcoin thing is about something we discuss."
asciilifeform: (bad encoding settings often result in hilariously-pronounceable garbage, some of which entered circulation as euphemism and otherwise)
asciilifeform: as if it were ever the 'hard part'
asciilifeform: 'check out our other installments, such as Balanced Trinary Computing and Electrically Induced REM Sleep.'
asciilifeform: but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry.
decimation: this is roughly the deal most "managers of stuff" find themselves in: we will pretend you are a normal human as long as you give us stuff
decimation: nevertheless, as mircea_popescu points out, business is about growth, and growth is about knowing how to manage stuff
asciilifeform did a 'second tour of duty' in undergrad ochem, as adult. and saw this alive.
decimation: it's obvious that there's a segment of silicon valley circus that sees bitcoin as a way to exit from usg
mircea_popescu: decimation you familiar with adiabatic as a concept ?
asciilifeform: point of the above unfinished tale is, most of the difficulty of machining as a field revolves around the unwanted sequelae of having to cut metal with metal.
asciilifeform: and the hardness of the material being cut doesn't matter at all - so long as it conducts.
asciilifeform: as i recall, locklin's observation was that 'printed' gun is a technowankerous curio, vastly inferior to an aggregation of discarded plumbing parts and a rusty nail
mircea_popescu: to put it in the terms of the anonimity as urban/rural dispute article : the rural guy can run software without ever needing a garbage collector, because no program ever covers memory.
asciilifeform: decimation: they can machine, weld, assemble own parts from scrap << sure. but can they build so much as a kalash round with own hands, to the required tolerances?
mircea_popescu: (as to the other point, the orbital spybots are a crapshot. earth based antenna is obv the right approach to the problem)
mircea_popescu: the hayseeds imagine the urban despisement of their simpletonism is the same as the utopian hatred of their self sufficiency.
mircea_popescu: obviously a car without an engine will continue to be a car without an engine for as long as hills and people willing to push can be found.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: eventual goal, for the state, is an endgame where you can't grow your own potato in secret any more than you can produce your own 14nm cpu. << eventual endgame, for the utopian socialist/nazist state, as for any utopian/figment of imagination, is human relevancy.
decimation: said Lt. Col. Tom Crosson, a Pentagon spokesman. ?We respect the freedom of all nations, as reflected in international law, to operate military vessels beyond the territorial seas of other nations.?
mircea_popescu: handwaved as "well if there's too many subs to track then that says all we wanted to know anyway rite ?"
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to do submerged anyway. the only real reason to move is abvout the same as getting new ips, ie, avoid the enemy.
decimation: note that if you want go at any reasonable speed you must be on the surface, as ascii said
mircea_popescu: "yes you may gather together to overthrow the state, just as long as you get an approval form stamped by said state"
asciilifeform: this applies just as easily to the nominally 'proper' education (average peon has very little use for, e.g. arithmetic)
asciilifeform: probably being '3d printed' to order even as we speak.
asciilifeform: or, as with one proposed electromobile, battery swap couriers.
asciilifeform: the same kind of tech problem as the absence of pocket laser pistol.
asciilifeform: 'Defined in these terms, when you move onto a floating pole somewhere in the ocean, the first effect on your freedom is a massive decline. You have sworn fealty to King Neptune. Neptune accepts your service, as he has accepted so many before you. His court is glorious, his riches are infinite, his territory is vast. But Neptune is a stern and capricious lord. To live at sea, you need not just love liberty. You n
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as you accept bitcoin as a desktop garden under a lcd backed monitor, one can, does.
mircea_popescu: or mebbe some knew but the group as a whole got desperate enough.
mircea_popescu: but i guess i was giving the bright financial minds on the other side of the tug rope undue credit for being absolutely intelligent so as to know.
kakobrekla: you are as high as it goes.
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
jurov: btw i thought the DERP is not finished yet as F.DERP is not listed and only two derivatives
xmj: Vexual: Monsanto strikes the hypocritical white progressives as bad due to their feeding people.
Vexual: but mapping genomes is about as advanced as blockchain.info taint analysis
TheNewDeal: still very profitable for a high btc individual to bet as well
TheNewDeal: there's a 5k bet as well
TheNewDeal: not only that, anduck said it today as well
decimation: the mind reels. one hope is that as the 14-nm process seems to dribble production, the world will have time to step back and actually do something useful with the silicon
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 189.09 B (14%) on No | closing in 5 months 4 weeks | weight: 53`621 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: methinks your yield is going a lot higher this month http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
asciilifeform: most of the contractors are hired for a fixed salary, agreed on before-hand, as if they were normal employees
asciilifeform: even today, buying the kind of insurance available for a token fee to civil service folks or employees of large concerns - costs 1-2k usd / month if you do it 'as a human'
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that used to be true but these days with obamacare it might be about the same as everyone else, depending on the details
ben_vulpes: i'm not even as funny as a markov chain
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c all for you baby. took two hours as i refactored the whole way login works. let me know if stupid shit happens around logins.
fluffypony: [2014-08-17T17:03:50+0200] <usagi> Fluffypony are you aware that I have actually been offered business as a result of you targeting me?
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is that the guy run his affairs cca 2012 as if they were fantasy baseball. buncha names/identities with no substantial business existence or raison d'etre, making the thing difficult to remember or sanely structure historically.
TheNewDeal: "In the event of a full pirate default, NYAN.C will loose out, and CPA holds NYAN which holds NYAN.C. Then we have contracts on the outside as well. All in all CPA will remain very solvent, it may lose 20% of it's value in a full default. But we stands just as ready to gain 20% if pirate doesn't default." - it will remain very solvent
gribble: Nick 'anduck', with hostmask 'Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck', is identified as user 'Anduck', with GPG key id 5F81CCEC5886D61E, key fingerprint CA792C93C799D2C83A69BCE65F81CCEC5886D61E, and bitcoin address 1Anduck6bsXBXH7fPHzePJSXdC9AEsRmt4
fluffypony: "as they transition" is transitory
fluffypony: I agree - "Blockr.io will continue to operate as usual for now as Sašo and Samo transition to their work at Coinbase."
mike_c: "Blockr.io will continue to operate as usual for now"... and then it will go away.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this animal appears as a minor character in m. atwood's book 'oryx and crake', where it is called 'spoat/gider'
mircea_popescu: as the compatriots said twenty years ago, Azi in Timisoara, Miine'n Ferguson, MO.
assbot: Michael Brown shooting: Amnesty International sends team within US for first time as National Guard deployed - Americas - World - The Independent
BingoBoingo: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-brown-shooting-amnesty-international-sends-team-within-us-for-first-time-as-national-guard-deployed-9675149.html
X-Rob: as a lot of them just leave the defaults. Which is fine for a slow, scrypt, pool. But terrible when you point TH of SHA at it.
X-Rob: Apocalyptic: I normally work on ;;genrate + 10%, and I justify the +10% as 'I know what the fuck I'm doing, and you're going to get that hashrate pointed wherever you want it'
Apocalyptic: that's a different story, as you're not the only one bearing the cost
TheNewDeal: as far as web pages go
asciilifeform: just as, if you want a glass of beer, no need to go to the pub - find some sand, salt, build a forge, having the glass, find some hops, barley... perhaps you will drink a superior beer in a few decades
asciilifeform: well, technically not required. you can always decide to spend the next 20 years as a historian and walk the author's sources yourself, coming to his - or a different - conclusion.
asciilifeform: in so far as food can still be produced via traditional low-tech methods, the dream remains a dream
pete_dushenski: and it's herbicide resistance as well as larger output, drought resistance
asciilifeform: people debate 'gmo food' as if i can go and buy, e.g., tomato plant that expresses caffeine, etc
asciilifeform: gmo foods << a term annoying as all hell. there are no 'gmo foods ☟︎
pete_dushenski: cazalla: pete_dushenski, "Yes, dear People Of The World, you belong to your family, your faith, and your traditions, not your ?nation.? Where else does this exist than perhaps countries such as Japan? Families have been destroyed, faith abandoned, very little tradition left. What's left but nationalism? (I started to fall into this trap). << that's sorta teh point of their nefarious exercise. what's left is your own
pete_dushenski: dear bitbet mods, please to close and resolve above as per $442 low: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
StephanLivera: given bitcoin's position as the top cryptocurrency (and the only one, really) - people will need a way to transfer value internationally with ease
punkman: what is this a threat? " Y-Combinator-backed Shift Payments, which, according to TechCrunch, is “working to make it as easy to spend digital currencies, cryptocurrencies and loyalty points as it is to spend regular, fiat money.”"
mircea_popescu: you're not the master of the fucking world on other people's money. suppose you were a plumber and i hired you to build me a toilet on the ceiling. after you explained to me this design i have is idiotic, as long as i'm paying you;d better build it.
RagnarDanneskjol: I have a moral dilemna. This company in China wants to retain me to hire them a team of devs to build them a chinese version of ripple. They have an enormous budget and the account would be a boon for my business. Of course ripple is junk as so nicely described here: http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/. I've tried to reason and communicate this to them (i am wor