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gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I was referring to #b-a members actually. I don't have any customers yet, as Masamune is horribly incomplete.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I saw that in the logs earlier. It doesn't really matter - they don't have any other options.
gabriel_laddel: thanks. fucking useless AT&T connection
trinque: asciilifeform: no, but water doesn't ever come out of the socket
asciilifeform: trinque: the whole concept of having von neumann's bottleneck, where you can't do anything at all on the machine without waiting your turn for the little airline latrine of alu, mmu, etc. is asinine
asciilifeform: (in point of fact, it doesn't even need an ALU... church numerals!!)
asciilifeform: 'lisp doesn't need i/o.' --my brother
asciilifeform: who doesn't believe me (and why should?) can go waste years himself. like the 'movitz' folks did
trinque: can't build a VM for some syslisp which is then implemented later as hardware?
asciilifeform: i.e. the hardware can't be meaningfully abstracted over.
trinque: haven't torqued it hard enough to know yet
mircea_popescu: just like i wouldn't take a nobel on the basis that i do not wish to have the shiot they gave obama.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around << amusingly enough, re the earlier dog discussion : dog cunt seals, for this reason.
trinque: asciilifeform: isn't this "leaking" more something like not having enough vessels to preserve it?
asciilifeform: trinque: 'wanting' wasn't enough in the age of hand-copied text
trinque: I don't follow "doesn't leak"
asciilifeform: trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around
asciilifeform: jurov: it isn't in therealbitcoin
asciilifeform: jurov: i spoke of this earlier. it isn't a gavinsignal in the usual sense, but is produced by the crud where version numbers in incoming messages are averaged and compared
trinque: I wouldn't be a common lisp programmer by now if I hadn't aired a bunch of idiotic thoughts of my own on programming in public.
williamdunne: Can't miss what you don't know?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as an exercise for you : what is the difference between the disruption caused by the absence of the comrade joke webcomic, which nobody has started yet, and the disruption caused by the absence of x service, which equally doesn't exist but at some point did ?
williamdunne: trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol
mircea_popescu: the greeks have exactly zero incentive to do anything other than "housewife" and haven't, for ~2300 years now.
cazalla: i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though
asciilifeform: that they aren't breathing $5/litre air is only a matter of technological limitations.
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.
mircea_popescu: you can't get stuck in dog.
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu teach us that holes work-anneal ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.
mircea_popescu: hehe wouldn't go that far
asciilifeform: and they don't feel like answering, so we can sorta guess!
asciilifeform: it isn't
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this isn't a random process. what makes you think it's for him ?
mircea_popescu: a loosely maintained list of posts, and a loosely maintained list of "don't shoot that way dummy" makes sense, but s'about all.
mircea_popescu: i think most everyone's using github or w/e - but it wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea to start putting deeds out with the code bundles. with instructions. "run this so and so"
mircea_popescu: if it made sense to not be thus, you couldn't be, ~COULD NOT BE~ a guerilla if you wanted to
mircea_popescu: once a bot or w/e goes off, we see what we do. before, we don't give a shit.
asciilifeform: wat, mircea_popescu doesn't have a girl follow him around imitating clock hands with arms, legs...?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wonder i even managed to make the conference at all. i haven't had a watch or aty allcared about time in a decade.
asciilifeform: and i don't have a clock (other than emacs clock) in the room either
mircea_popescu: wasn't trying to write policy, just bemoan existing insanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it's multithreaded doesn't parallelize :D
asciilifeform: it doesn't parallelize
asciilifeform: because 1) no i won't do it with bare hands 2) yes, could pay people, but i ~fucking hate people~
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179112 << don't be a noob. dishes are merely the expansion of an invisible slave empire. if you have jets you better have slave hands to go to the farmer market, and to fill the dishes, anbd to wash the dishes. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 500 buys a doghouse here. don't even want to imagine what it buys on west coast usa
asciilifeform: jurov: you were quite right, it won't do, and i oughta have remembered this factoid
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist. ☝︎
jurov: haha doesn't look very comfortable
jurov: lol i do. but nothing that can't be washed in 5 minutes
mats: you won't get the lifestyle seen on HBO's Silicon Valley but it is workable
asciilifeform: mats: many of the arguments against 'google dorm' don't hold water. e.g., the current 'collect 200k/y salary, give 180k/y to housing racket' system is just as impoverishing; 'lose your job, lose your housing' is just as true now for the fools paying those 180k to live in auto range of palo alto etc.; the squalor is just the same in the palo alto 'efficiency' flat as in any dorm; and so forth
asciilifeform: doesn't google corp. have'em ?
assbot: Ask HN: Why don't tech companies build dorms on campus? | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWYWTZ )
asciilifeform: chetty doesn't need one, lives in the meat b-a
chetty: me doesn't
assbot: Machete Don't Text! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGVN5f )
assbot: Future - Move That Dope ft. Pharrell Williams, Pusha T - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpyPHC )
assbot: Cypress Hill & Rusko feat Damian Marley "Can't Keep Me Down" - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG9DvN )
awokestillY2K: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vxlr7_cypress-hill-rusko-feat-damian-marley-can-t-keep-me-down_music <<<flaggededest
cazalla: shame that nearly all of 'em don't give as much as a smile
cazalla: how self absorbed can one be to make a coming out video where you don't really come out to your parents but just send them a link to a video
assbot: Awreeoh - Don't Get Deleted - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnl3ah )
cazalla: can't see 3d.. took me something like 20 years to understand why i couldn't see those stereoscopic books as a kid too
cazalla: http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21131?utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=20150626_txgov-p-scotus_samesexmarriage_06262015_twitter&utm_content=txgov
asciilifeform: when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console
decimation: heh. 'we didn't know better'
decimation: apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it
decimation: And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?
decimation: ?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."
mircea_popescu: i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi.
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism
decimation: don't tell me it's from server
asciilifeform: doesn't need to
decimation: it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate
asciilifeform: decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in
mod6: i can't figure out how to get the hash out either, the best i've seen is that "digest algo 10, best of digest 23 49" gives you 2 bytes.
cazalla: can't help but think of this scene when somebody asks what the fuck type of person are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBP522x0xI
trinque: that iirc might've caused problems with *other* characters (though I don't recall which) so someone ping me if they have trouble with that in the future.
mircea_popescu: maybe if your friends would stop scamming / being retarded pieces of shit i wouldn't have to care about their otherwise meaningless existences ?
mod6: ok, i think this thing installed, but i can't figure out how to get it to run lol.
ascii_field: notice that you don't even need the patch file for this
jurov: that doesn't matter if alone or not
jurov: no, i won't
trinque: can't find the actual quote; something about wanting to believe that there's some conspiracy in charge of the world because it's more comfortable than the reality
ascii_field: because when you can't physically connect arbitrary flipflops in the machine to the screen, you're - blind.
ascii_field: and at any rate, i barfed as soon as i discovered that you can't meaningfully compose qt widgets without diving back into the cpp shit pit
ascii_field: (yes, works. but now you have 'guts' in the works, and breakage paths that don't cleanly break into lisp)
trinque: I tried to build his, couldn't
ascii_field: at 'respectable' uni they make a show of not teaching as much of ^this as they could 'because this isn't trade school after all'
ascii_field: why it doesn't - i have no idea
ascii_field: 'doxygen' doesn't appear to do the handy 'click this and see ~EVERYWHERE~ it appears' symbol concordance
ascii_field: in other nyooz, http://www.firebox.com/product/7078/Inner-Selfie-Stick?via=hp&s=1x1&t=random
ascii_field: the ritual described is at least as old as ww2. don't take my word for it, ask orwell >> http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19441229.html
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i recommend also (assuming you haven't done this ages ago) doing equivalent of disabling debug.log rollover (plug in teletype into that pdp-11...)
ascii_field: in the process, my seed doesn't get to seed anyone.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem with serving blocks ?
mod6: huh, maybe those didn't do the trick...
mod6: so far, all i see are hierarchal graphs for base-classes/types. was trying to find something for CBlock, but I don't as of yet, see a graph.