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mircea_popescu: and yes, i had been (and for years, at that) slowly growing hostile to people doing both ends of that, ie, on one hand "i'm not publishing this, i intend to earn a living off it" and then turn around and "i ain't about to advertise this, who the fuck gives a shit, i'm not putting my precious lfie behind it, wut!!!"
mircea_popescu: so yes, i expect a VERY steady stream of "oh, http://trilema.com/2014/the-twinheaded-announcer-announces/#footnote_0_55947[][i tried] this, here's how it worked" for ALL items in that situation.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:53:50 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937433 << should be very easy, i.e. wrapped this weekend or next. to confirm, same rules as deedbot : nonzero rating -> able to self-voice?
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea why the ycall it "postmodernism", it's nothing like modernism, and definitely no kind of post. it's simply the time of mediocrity : mediocre people succumbing to mediocre wounds of the spirit ; legions of apprentice wizards trying their master grimoire and causing no remarkable, explosive, catastrophic outbursts. merely [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/76/df/64/76df643b4566f10bad849bb927cbd2c4.jpg][dying q
trinque: I'll genesis the wotcode after this is complete.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 04:16:36 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937433 << should be very easy, i.e. wrapped this weekend or next. to confirm, same rules as deedbot : nonzero rating -> able to self-voice?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell Harvard, MIT, WUStl, U Chicago, Stanford, et al are functionally little more than Cathedrals of Pantsuitism where the self loathing go to get their benedictions and such
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937438 << imho mircea_popescu has mega-point in there -- i dunno re the british , but over here all sortsa nonsense gets 'university affiliated' , via barely coupla k $ of greased palms. it's almost like the 'churches' thing .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 11:56:26 BingoBoingo: They are a pair I met the first night in country
asciilifeform: there was a crate of tank pressure regulators stamped 'hydrogen' , 'patent 1943', but dun think i could bring myself to use these.
mircea_popescu: i bet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i make regular visits to the scrapyards, sometimes find a++ deals.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol i missed 1 in 1st count aha
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lulzily, the dealer sold these with a rack, also brand-new, back an' front doors & all. i have sadly nowhere for another rack to live, let'im keep it
asciilifeform: i couldn't help but wonder what these people do when they need to pull one from inside the stack
asciilifeform: i'm still pissed that these can't be bought in the south americas and have to be flown, wtf monkey men
BingoBoingo: They are a pair I met the first night in country
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937437 << lol, I experienced similar trouble discerning.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: thank you for the comment; I'll chew on it.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
lobbes: likewise, diana_coman I followed same procedures as asciilifeform for dropping lines < 1000000 and fed your dump to my logger. Ate fine and no issues that I can see via spot checks.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937380 << ty, I always appreciate n00b tips (I in fact only learned of the "gpg --decrypt signed.txt >> unsigned.txt" method for clearsigned files a mere few months ago, so you never can be too careful)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i seem to recall that she was actually chinese ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I spotchecked for each of the days, so far no barf; the sad experience indicates that it's mostly a matter of actually re-reading ~all of it to spot anything but at least shrysr will help there since he anyway has to re-read.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 13:33:17 asciilifeform: meanwhile, phf's site appears to have fallen down. i.e. only access to era1 l0gz is nao by hand.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937255 -- apparently phf still tuned in , and fixed when i asked. but really we oughta settle the url thing imho, so can finally import era1 .
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937350 << ty diana_coman , i'ma feed it today.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937347 << that's the piece i dun have of yet. ( and imho oughta be implemented after the no-dates-url thing is properly solved. otherwise will have to be 100% rebaked when it is. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:47:32 mircea_popescu: trying to meta-smart, pseudothinking in your dumb head "if i were a literary character and these things happened to me, what'd it mean about the script" will not only fail to deliver any useful predictions (in the sense that it'll work EXACTLY as well as a RNG-choice, to perfectly fuck you over), but it will actually prevent you from deriving any benefits from the circumstance you're NOT a fucking literary char
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937350 << kk. I'll do the log feeding later tonight once forums quiet down.
mircea_popescu: in other news, hanbot i see your above an' i give you both http://trilema.com/2010/socializarea-pagubelor/ an; http://trilema.com/2010/fata-cu-visine/
mircea_popescu: visual aid
diana_coman: but myeah, I ended up knowing way more than I ever wanted to about the multiple irssi formats, ugh.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: it's still those darned lines from *before the bot*, arrrgh; and there is no such thing as "irssi format", no matter how I look at it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 23:59:43 asciilifeform: ^ i'ma finally cycle that thing in coupla days, bvt's reconnector & mircea_popescu's 'plox to mark crosspostism' to swap in.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 21:58:38 trinque: oh wait, I'm an idiot. there's the test bot still connected from same box...
mircea_popescu: this. because they're fucking stupid, and provincial, and beyond moronic, and their "hepry-derp o looksy, works for me, i have now invented excelreligion!!!! ALL HAIL MY GREATNESS EXCEPT SOME MANIFESTLY BETTER PEOPLE WHO ARE JEALOUS!!!!ELEVENTY" results always and forver in fucking excel.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 06:03:14 mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking more on http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935600 i have to say this is by and of itself a failure mode of thought.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937318 - quite a common one too, from what I've seen; a sort of "easy give up" I'd say.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: trying to meta-smart, pseudothinking in your dumb head "if i were a literary character and these things happened to me, what'd it mean about the script" will not only fail to deliver any useful predictions (in the sense that it'll work EXACTLY as well as a RNG-choice, to perfectly fuck you over), but it will actually prevent you from deriving any benefits from the circumstance you're NOT a fucking literary character.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking more on http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935600 i have to say this is by and of itself a failure mode of thought.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: the sustain part is the one on which none has managed yet to convince me; fwiw the task is one of those I have in mind precisely to get some bright guy going.
diana_coman: oh, I missed that, huh
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I said it in pm; hm, did it need it here?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i didn't see you say !!deed ?
mircea_popescu: i'll totally ennoble them, if they can sustain that ABSOLUTE MINIMUM BAR of intellectual liveliness holy shit.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ahaha; if I see deedbot popping up in #o too, I'll really have to wonder.
diana_coman: trinque: I asked (at 8:18 local time, now it's 9:43) deedbot to deed something ( !!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=n6vP ) but it hasn't replied with anything at all; am I doing something wrong there?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937291 << if i had to guess, it'd be "deedbot becoming sentient, trying to realise the irc bridge of march on its own".
diana_coman: asciilifeform: myeah; I've deployed now the latest bot too since I had it scheduled anyway (ie pressed to irssi_format vpatch); I synced the few lines with the raw knob; let's see how it goes from now on.
asciilifeform: ^ i'ma finally cycle that thing in coupla days, bvt's reconnector & mircea_popescu's 'plox to mark crosspostism' to swap in.
trinque: oh wait, I'm an idiot. there's the test bot still connected from same box...
trinque: woah, after a restart of the service I now have two!
trinque: so ftr, right now I have this in netstat:
diana_coman: :D I was thinking mountain_goat all the time
mircea_popescu: they are eminently forgettable, so perhaps i just forgot avout it.
asciilifeform: hm. possibly i dreamed it
BingoBoingo: I have not seen the new Chapelle.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, phf's site appears to have fallen down. i.e. only access to era1 l0gz is nao by hand.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a1-kavarna.html << The Tar Pit -- nu-i
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha! i never understood why 'negative associations with bull'. the ancients worshipped the bull, the cow. critter feeds man, moar than dog ever was able
mircea_popescu: but i also suppose perhaps implicit negative connotation associated to the animal's involved.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is veering towards a discussion of mastitis...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, afaik the only standing paradigm of university is still socrates', "and now i will tell you why you are wrong" ; and you are stuck re-doing until right.
diana_coman: uhm; I suppose I don't see this irrespective of results; fwiw, not even breast "proceeds irrespective of results" if you think that it adapts supply if nothing else
diana_coman: the core of it as I see it (and matching btw the breast + gender difference) is that they are not yet able to act independently (in this case: independent learning , hence yes, if you just send them to read, it won't do much)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i used the junior high as the outer bounds of "baby"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes; what I don't see is junior high learning ~= baby level
mircea_popescu: i doubt it. honestly, i think the breast is an exceptionally illustrative parallel. obviously, not all children will thrive if breastfed ; and obviously "could thrive if just found milk in environment"
diana_coman: for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times; it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times
diana_coman: well, I don't know really; for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly.
mircea_popescu: yes, i suppose that's what i'm saying : that children are by their nature closer to animals than people ; and that the people taking them across perforce spend their time dealing with animals, and therefore they'll be covered in shit.
mircea_popescu: what's needed in jr high is "i told you yesterday, and i'm telling you today, and i will tell you until you learn it : the panties AFTER the garter belt ; the garter belt BEFORe the panties".
diana_coman: lolz, I have yet to see bovines talking to children.
mircea_popescu: let's put i this way : universally and without exception the most abject of all humans are children. this is what "retard" addresses : a state of abject misery that ~IS EXCUSED~ in children because nature imposes ; but ONLY IN CHILDREN YOUNG ENOUGH. as thy age -- no longer excused.
mircea_popescu: i expect it's cancer of the education gland.
hanbot: i was gonna say, could grep "argentines" and spend a while getting enraged...lol
mircea_popescu: well... i aint going diging through the story of argentina, i'll just get pissed off. fucking morons.
hanbot: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937112 << gah, it was about that "art space" thing by la florida with the two roof towers, i remember that...but not the specific piece.
mircea_popescu: and i'm starting to suspect i didn't even bother mentioning the exact case or something, cuz they were too many ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't even immediately think of any remaining 'rms' with any ~life left in'em for such a thing
mircea_popescu: anyways, i expect a lot more of this trotting out / reclaiming of puppets going forward. "hey tmsr, do you wanna follow THIS esca ? no ? oook [animal eats the fleshy appendage, grows "new" one], nevermind, how about THIS entirely different other on ? no ? *repeat*.
mircea_popescu: nd this thing, which is helpful, I'd rather not add them up. If these two activities are separable in practice, in other words, if it's possible to look at each one, individually, and distinguish it from the other, if they're not tied up with each other, so much that that's a nonsensical thing to do, then I do that. Because that way, I can disapprove of whatever is bad and approve of whatever is good. That's more useful, j
mircea_popescu: ftr, by http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937123 i was discussing rms. "They seemed receptive in a general way. But you know, whether Microsoft will change anything in practice, remains to be seen. Maybe it will change some things and not others, right? That's often happens. But I believe in judging each thing that a company does separately. So if a company is doing this thing, which is wrong and unjust, a
BingoBoingo: Anytime someone says they are a "creative" I assume they are *that* dog on the internet until demonstrated otherwise
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937108 << recently in an old-b00kz shop i encountered new 'gem' of irigarayism, 'Gender and Boyle's Law of Gases' . arguing that 'boyle cheated and instead of data used the patriarchic preconceptions of his time'(tm)(r) .
mircea_popescu: and thanks heaves i didn't do that, holly hell.
mircea_popescu: naah, was some business thing. back in the early days when i was still considering buying one of the tards skyscrapers or something.
mircea_popescu: nah, was some building we were meeting i don't remembe rwhat local retard that had "security" at the door.
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu actually had piece on this subj. where mentioned 'dragon'. i.e. at some pt the lamer's task becomes factually impossible, after tall enuff pile of fuckup
mircea_popescu: this slippery slope of idiocy, "i really should have beaten the wife, but since i haven't, can't now beat daughter".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you said earlier, prolly similar to how phf threw in towel. i.e. 'i racked up 9 figures of stupidity bill, no way to pay'
mircea_popescu: suppose i said "we can't afford to make new loggers yet again" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'face derealization' / 'they gave up, why' -- i was reading not long ago about keldysh (head of sovok academy of sciences, and overall respectable figure, in charge of ~100% of calculative works for space / atomic programs etc. ) BUT at same time is the fella who undertook 'let's ditch native comp archs and copy pdp'. seems like was a checkmate, rather than 'dolchstoss', saw no working alternative , 'we can't affor
mircea_popescu: i have.