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mircea_popescu: The “g” in “beige” is the same consonant sound as the “s” in “Asia” and “z” in “azure.” << god help us.
mircea_popescu: mandarin was never specced, because, well... the speech is the spec.
asciilifeform: aha, it's the ultimate poorly-specced mandarin.
asciilifeform: they have their own most curious vowel 'dip switch' settings.
mircea_popescu: anyway, no argument that english is, under the pressure of its colonialism, dieing a chinese death. so the argument is widely moot.,
asciilifeform: if this recipe is followed, you end up a brit.
mircea_popescu: consider that the u in food is properly uː whereas the u in good is properly ʊ. these are in fact quite distinct, for most people , with some training.
mircea_popescu: whereas two has a faint j in there.
mircea_popescu: there is a very slight difference between the length of the vowel in to and too, which length allows the latter to round closer to a plain u
asciilifeform: one you factor out the regionalisms, you get approximately orlov's phonemes, though.
mircea_popescu: when confronted with language using 5th 6th and 7th, he believes them to be "the same". this is not actually the case.
mircea_popescu: if a language happens to use the 3rd and 9th a, then the speaker expects that 6 unit barrier.
asciilifeform did the obligatory tour of duty as linguistics 'minor' at uni
mircea_popescu: the way this works is actually very similar to genetics. there's someting like 100ish vowels available to the human voice. these are all spaced equally apart, say 1 unit each.
asciilifeform: ask a teacher of english in ru, and you'll get 'english is what they speak in england! here's how...'
asciilifeform confesses he was taught 'uk' style as a boy and had to slowly unlearn it, to much lulz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's possible you don't hear them. some people don't distinguish some colors, red/green, yellow/blue, whatever. it does not follow paintings are bad or w/e.
asciilifeform: or perhaps just my tin ear.
mircea_popescu: that he's an ignorant ass i know. but why is he such a twerp to not even bother do his motherfucking reading, quote the actual canonical examples on this topic ?
mircea_popescu: Take the word that sounds like “tu.” It is spelled in three different ways: “to,” “too,” and “two.” << if only these actually sounded even vaguely alike.
mircea_popescu: o holy shit don't tell me he's of the "spoken as written" school of pararetardism
asciilifeform: orlov appears to subscribe to the hypothesis that english is a semi-deliberate qwerty for 'branded on the toungue' purposes.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile your average usian has no problem speako spanisho, and wonders why the spanish speakero no understando.
mircea_popescu: Most people stumble through life afraid to speak any of the words that they only know from their reading, fearful that they will make fools of themselves by mispronouncing them in public. <<< this was a fact in jerome k jerome's england, back when people knew your class based on your rp.
mircea_popescu: coupla weeks later, worker runs into his ass at a fair. shimmies next to it and whispers
mircea_popescu: worker awakens, finds a man instead of the ass. man explains that lo! he was cursed by his jealous lover woman, and his time as an ass just came to an end!
mircea_popescu: one of them comes up with a bright idea : takes bit off ass, puts over own head, while his fellow takes the ass and its load away.
mircea_popescu: worker falls asleep on the roadside, with loaded ass next to him. coupla bums decide to steal the goods
asciilifeform: which, then
mircea_popescu: you know the ancient story of the "magical" ass yes ?
asciilifeform: and 'has problems' in the ant colony
asciilifeform: there was a soviet-era kids' book about a lil'bugger who gets turned into an ant as punishment for his idiocy
cazalla: so i butchered 6 rabbits this morning and a crow swooped and took a bunny head, imagine the poor kid that finds that in his backyard lol
asciilifeform: hard to smell the pheromone trails when not an ant, yes.
mircea_popescu: this notion that "other people" exist is perhaps the most striking shared delusion humanity ever came up with. seriously, they do ? how ?
ben_vulpes: i've been working out of a client's office on the 27th floor of this skyscraper downtown all week, and every time i walk outside i'm struck with gut-level desires to insulate myself from the people derping around outside the building.
asciilifeform prefers soaring with the pigs any day of the week
mircea_popescu is at that precise moment enlightened : rather than interact with random people, he'd count sand.
asciilifeform: wallowing with the eagles, eh.
mircea_popescu makes account, and for a minute contemplates stream of meaningless faces, and their literal outbursts. la nausee strikes.
assbot: ClubOrlov: Is unlearning harder than unschooling?
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-unlearning-harder-than-unschooling.html << intro to mr. o's linguistic crackpottery
asciilifeform: there's a pick and a cart with each of their names on'em.
asciilifeform: these folks >> straight to butugychag.
mircea_popescu: "Which town did you grow up in? What's been the best commercial you've seen? What’s the best gift you have ever given someone, in your opinion? What position do you sleep in? Are you a very ambitious person? What is the worst gift you have ever received?" << of all the inept shit...
asciilifeform peeked, not impressed. must not understand how the world works (tm).
mircea_popescu: so apparently ask.fm is where all the cool kids are nao.
punkman: "trust but verify" doesn't translate very well though
asciilifeform: humlangs without declensions are a royal bitch to rhyme.
ben_vulpes: where is the eyerolling emoji again?
mircea_popescu: maybe it rhymes in russian because russian was so made so that good original sentences rhyme ?
asciilifeform: ^ rhymed in the original.
assbot: Here is why the hash rate jumped and took a dive in days. EST. $3,600,000 worth - GONE! : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: but generally : trust-but-verify is the best model available.
mircea_popescu: i wish to see the camho that figures out how to submit fuck you to this thing.
asciilifeform awaits the patch whores
asciilifeform: not that it matters much, 'if used as prescribed'
asciilifeform: but folks should at least have to ask to play
mircea_popescu: so then ?
asciilifeform: foundation, l2 trust of assbot << i'd suggest switching from the #b-a voices for the turdatron to l1 of jurov (or ben_vulpes?) - i.e., do we want the camgurlz submitting patches?
asciilifeform: on account of my peculiar profession, i am rather addicted to overturned screens.
mircea_popescu: i don't overturn them anyway.
asciilifeform: 'eizo' makes tolerable lcd.
mircea_popescu: i've hammered this lcd thing into low emission tolerability, and well... kinda too lazy i guess.
asciilifeform: surrendered to modernity?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not rly looking tbh.
mircea_popescu: to be fair tho, i have a coupla other machines, so i suppose that counts as multiple anyway.
asciilifeform: the key to a functioning computer isn't that "everything is on your screen at the same time" << this is how i ended up with 4 screens (and counting...)
mod6: m6 & bv --sigs-> A & B signed charter ; treasurers sub-doc contains links to A & B to be signed by j & mod6 & bc
mircea_popescu: this is trivially accomplished, just include the two links.
mircea_popescu: so you mean you want jurov's thing to reference the charter you two signed ?
mod6: just was hoping for a daisy-chained document sigs in the public record
mircea_popescu: the key to a functioning computer isn't that "everything is on your screen at the same time"
mircea_popescu: anyone has doubts about the matter has also the means to verify it.
mircea_popescu: mod6 srsly, i wouldn't worry about it. it's there, it's signed.
punkman: should I look into creating a utility that does the multisig hack?
mod6: any errors in this thinking?
mod6: (since we didn't submit them on the same bundle)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski who is http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/21/tete-a-tete-with-a-neo-national-socialist/#comment-4561 ?
mod6: and as far as "[R.1]" it should probably encompass both of our signed submissions of the charter to deedbot
mircea_popescu: to keep it lighter. i suppose you could actually put the whole thing sure.
mircea_popescu: punkman actually. yeah, whole thing no signature
punkman: mircea_popescu: might as well put the whole thing there (gotta fetch from db and decompress)
mod6: so there should be a R.1 secion to the submission to deedbot for the charter, and an R2 that ties back to his submission of the Treasurer's contract to the deedbot
mircea_popescu: punkman can there be 1st line of deed too ?
mod6: just jurov's submission to the deedbot
mod6: the problem is here, that "[R.1] doesn't tie back to the specific Charter document
punkman: handy when you are searching http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/jurov (can also add /rss there)
mod6: and if both ben_vulpes and I sign that exact document with our keys, there is a tie back to the deed submitted by jurov
mod6: ok so this http://therealbitcoin.org/treasurer_contract.html is the contract with jurov's submission
mircea_popescu: and something tells me this is going to be a bitch going forward.
mod6: anyone whom already submitted might need to re-submit, not sure if there is a way to pull previously submitted deeds.
mod6: we need the three of us to sign that contract with the REFERENCES section in there
mod6: is there a way for someone to revoke their signed deed?
jurov: if nobody else does, will fix it tmrw
jurov: ooh I now get what was the REFERENCES for ... not for itself, but for the charter
mod6: yeah got this: http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj ☟︎
jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/treasurer_contract.html it's there
mircea_popescu: incidentally, in a decade or two once gpg ios the only basis of commerce, identity and general life, that's going to be the #1 scam : here's this document. it's signed. just by me.
mod6: Has the document been updated with the address et. al?