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erlehmann: when a clinton or merkel wears it?
erlehmann: sorry, but when is a suit a pantsuit?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685367 and also, http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-149.0-149.273 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685355 << he has a point. plus it seems to never work for me. ☝︎
erlehmann: then i stopped looking, as around a third of the thumbnail handlers had obvious issues and this topic bores me already.
erlehmann: and behold, i found a COPY of that CVE, in the source code of atril
erlehmann: oh, i found a typo
asciilifeform: i also got hold of a 'celeron', but that one is running STILL !
mircea_popescu: in a shocking development
mircea_popescu: can have a logo of a cunt with two balls, like cartman's idea. cunt-o-o
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo cuntoo, evidently. << i think this is a winner.
mod6: this box does nothing else other than just test builds/dev for trb, and is currently idle. should be a decent test. albiet much slower than the metrics collected with alf's i7 box.
mircea_popescu: when i was a child, i read a story, well written in the fantastic realist embryonic style. it contained a lamp for making darkness, which struck me then as the pinnacle of antipossible objects.
mod6: see how long it takes? this is a core2duo (old box) with 4gb of ram
mod6: ok, so i dropped on a binary install of adacore onto my gentoo environment here just to test...
phf: presumably original version was assembled by jean ichbiah out of twigs, a simula compiler, a UNIVAC machine, a chicken, a wrench, a discarded truck tire. the process was documented in BUILD-PROC.TXT.3
asciilifeform: it uses gcc backend tho, so also needs a working gcc.
mod6: i guess i didn't realize that, i thought you just, ofc, need a working gcc.
mod6: (instead of just being a tar of just it's own source0
mod6: it actually distributes a ton of inner packages (requirements) like, gcc, gdb, zlib, etc etc.
mod6: asciilifeform: yah, gentoo is looking for a package maintainer for gnat. ☟︎
mod6: well, like I was saying in #trilema-mod6 around that same day was, perhaps we're going to need to start freezing some of the things required to stand up a gcc4+gnat4 if it becomes required. i have a fear that this shit will start to disappear eventually.
mod6: shinohai, I think, figured out a way to do this, and pointed me at: http://www.adacore.com/products , but I haven't dug into it yet myself.
mod6: so, as a trial, i set it up on my eulora box.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 possibly not aptgetting a binary but instead building source may fix it for you ? << yeah, this is always a bad idea. only reason i did it, was to get an ada env stood up quickly. i had a super weird problem on the first environment that I tried on. the gnat version didn't match the gcc version and was getting like non-determinstic errors.
mod6: im not sure what it doesn't like about 142, 146 -- they look like a lot of otherlines in ffa. so not sure what it thinks isn't kosher.
asciilifeform: fwiw i have a box with the adacore bin gnat, everything worx great even there
mircea_popescu: mod6 possibly not aptgetting a binary but instead building source may fix it for you ?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: not the problem. my thing builds on both adacore's and trad gnu gnat. << yeah not sure what the problem is. it's a binary installation of gnat via apt-get, so that, i'm sure is part of the issue. however, it works better than the first ada configuration that I had, which, didn't work at all.
asciilifeform: somehow phuctor is a junkyard magnet for this style of nonsense. and, i imagine, a very frustrating one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect the -- is supposed to do something or the other to mysql. the rest is just a selection of terminators.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 14:43 mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster you're not here to learn. you're here to try and bludgeon the world into a shape your head may fit. this is the opposite of learning. learning is when you change.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in lulz of all time, some dork (arachni@email.gr / 139.59.30.233) put a bunch of "1"'`--" in vartious fields comments into trilema. BY HAND.
mircea_popescu: which is kinda funny in that it's a question crafted to bother the asker.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685111 << obviously the purpose of the "asking" is the stroking of the implicit assumptions of equality baked in. the question isn't "what is this ?" but rather "hey, i know i'm a guy 100% interchangeable with any/all of youze, right, i can even pm mp if i feel like it, so say something to signify your agreement, whatever it is, when i ask you hey guys what is this ?" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685108 << a yeah, whatever happened to the exciting kid a few days back. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685096 << practically speaking, "this" as in #trilema would be c-span for the senate of a "terrorist organisation". best guess. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun presently have a working bigendian box here.
asciilifeform: !~later tell trinque didja ever get a gnat going on your g5 ?
asciilifeform set up mod6's benchmark on a few moar comps
phf: it's a barn raising! you in? and then we'll have us a good ol' lynching!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1684964 << there are no non-ascii chars in my input. i ran a test, of the makefile in the tarball, and ended up with http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Au741/?raw=true ☝︎
asciilifeform: yeah unsurprise, considering that all but a handful of the muls are singleword
phf: parse-integer actually took significantly longer than factorial (i'm trying to figure out how to get a millisecond timer out of sbcl to wrap factorial to answer your question, but i don't think there's anything native)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu you might want to get a new calculator..
asciilifeform: i'ma guess you'd get a very similar speed, however, if you permitted http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684198 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: and incidentally in case anyone reading this is not really awake, the method of calculating factorial shown in the ada proggy is brainmeltingly dumb. you really want a tree, most of it is smallint mult
a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 19:49 BingoBoingo was a bit disappointed, this was merely traditional church building kept as warehouse. Was expecting USian phenomenon where new construction church is actually build in the manner of a warehouse. Corrugated steel and all.
BingoBoingo was a bit disappointed, this was merely traditional church building kept as warehouse. Was expecting USian phenomenon where new construction church is actually build in the manner of a warehouse. Corrugated steel and all. ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/assorted-diversities-or-how-we-went-looking-for-a-brothel-and-all-we-found-was-a-warehouse-church/ << Trilema - Assorted diversities, or how we went looking for a brothel and all we found was a warehouse church.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger above described mechanism will do that for free, yeah, just gotta have to care enough to put a link in log.
mircea_popescu: instead of that sad fate, pile them into monthl;y tarballs, deed the previous month's tarball each time a new month starts and lo! major piece of infrastructure.
Framedragger: i just wasn't sure if you were looking for a particular downloaded-from-earlier copy of that zip file
mircea_popescu: Framedragger imagine you know, five years from now the situation repeats. except then there's no tardstalk anymore. but it's ok, we have the archive link. o look, it's just a dangling link.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 16:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683501 >> that is the link in question, yes. it's be tremendously useful if it also had a copy of http://archive.is/download/nQLP9.zip stored somewhere.
Framedragger: http://archive.is/download/nQLP9.zip << do you mean a copy of this file *from earlier*, or (only) to have a general mechanism for downloading these archive copies?
mircea_popescu: there's no way he's fixcing that however, outside of making a whole new tmsr http
mircea_popescu: i thought maybe it is the case that it takes a 2 or 3 byte item which starts with valid ascii and tries to interpret it as some sort of unicode bs and in the process ends up applying a transform to the text somehow. but unless we have the actual magic string, we're not finding this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, so far : it's not clear that it actually does anything untoward to ascii ; my tests as they were failed to find an example. we did discover it replaces nonascii chars with some random gunk, which yes should be changed but not really much of a point or anything
phf: but i figure i'll try pushing a binary file through (which wasn't the spec anyway, just wanted to see what actually happens)
mircea_popescu: possibly there's something else afot though, because that wouldn't have afected a makefile, ie the original problem is it.
phf: foo is a specially crafted file which is simply a sequence of bytes from 0 to 255
a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 02:50 phf: i'm using this function http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/K916E/?raw=true to post this file http://glyf.org/tmp/foo i'm posting it by doing a command "cat foo | wotpaste"
mircea_popescu: phf got a sample case to work on ?
mircea_popescu very much recommends this test : pick random textfile, put it through the above code, see if you find a dismatching line.
trinque: just... does. and look, they gave ya a "echo -n" to undo it! choice
trinque: I think echo adds a newline, for one
mircea_popescu: trinque i am actually running a terst and it's pretty mindboggling.
trinque: spent more time freaking out than producing a diff would've taken.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 03:22 trinque: seems sorta like there's a double encode happening.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1684855 << i'ma need a copy of your ada tarballs, to see exactly how, but it has been shitgnomed into uselessness ☝︎
trinque: seems sorta like there's a double encode happening. ☟︎
phf: common lisp specification defines a memory safe language, yes, but in the crevices of "undefined behavior" you can have memory related exceptions. for example you can define a function with (safety 0) optimization declaration, which will neglect to check the type of a passed argument, which might (and often will) result in a memory exception.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 02:50 phf: i'm using this function http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/K916E/?raw=true to post this file http://glyf.org/tmp/foo i'm posting it by doing a command "cat foo | wotpaste"
phf: i'm using this function http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/K916E/?raw=true to post this file http://glyf.org/tmp/foo i'm posting it by doing a command "cat foo | wotpaste" ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: you mispasted a wotpaste link i think
phf: well, i wanted to see what sort of bits it mangles if any. and right now my combination of commands posts a file http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/q7PCa/?raw=true but returns http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ieRBr/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: phf it's just a flag, put it in.
phf: do you have a full command with --data-binary that you're using to upload?
phf: since i'm posting to a form though, it must be rfc 2388 compliant. afaiu posting raw binary data wouldn't work, because server needs to know which field the data is associated with
mod6: im probably condemmed to going through all the hoops to get gnat setup on gentoo. i just haven't ventured into it yes as it seems like a pretty timely, process.
sina: all for a laff
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684783 << ended up with a tmsr-approved "flops" measure on top of errything did we ☝︎
sina: trinque: I just came to try and get a rise out of asciilifeform :P
trinque: sina: maybe read on a bit before "hurr durr loud bandwagon"
asciilifeform: and i will say, if my makefile dun work on your box, in fact you do not have a working ada setup.
mod6: nice, i do have one, but it was from a while ago.
mircea_popescu: trinque a fine example, too, the more i think of it the more i like it. aedificium (=building) != aedificans (... building) != aedificant (still!!! building) and so on and so forth qs.
asciilifeform: classic mri is simply like a 3d xray that shows soft tissue
asciilifeform: afaik you cannot actually make a tool like this , that would work reasonably.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 00:46 asciilifeform: possibly delicate balance, between finding it anywhere in the room ( as a poorly made amp will ) and nowhere
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 00:43 asciilifeform: (mostly) unrelatedly, asciilifeform bought some chinese $various , and , in the crate, discovered a phree goodie, a 'voltalert' tool, that supposedly tests for presence of mains current noncontactfully -- by looking for 50/60Hz electric field. but witness the surprise : it gives false negative on maybe 1/3 of the hot mains wires tried...
mircea_popescu: anyway, this endless lulz of socialism whereby they come up with a dumb "solution" to a non-problem which sane people ignore ("code pages") and THEN they come up with an "improved" solution to the same nonproblem and expect sane people to not piss on their face because hey, IMPROVED!
erlehmann: unless a lot of money is involved
erlehmann: result: i tell people to not write a book.
erlehmann: turns out a bit of ghostscript can fix that problem
erlehmann: but then drafts had to be sent as ODT and came back as PDF to be annotated. in hindsight that was probably a measure to prevent too many annotations.
erlehmann: in a chapter about evolution of traditional smilies to emoji
erlehmann: worst unicode fail was that i wrote a book with a friend, published with o'reilly http://internetmeme.de
mircea_popescu: they were fine days - i never switched a page throughout.