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a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 13:21 ave1: of clean gcc 4.9.4 from FSF to a gcc 4.9.4 that build with musl + gnat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is, ave1 linked to a recipe.
mircea_popescu: that is a golden fucking feature.
asciilifeform: ( you can't dns from a statically linked glibc. but this does not bother me )
mircea_popescu: so there's a musl ada ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686568 << at this point you might even consider publishing the item as a v root under your own signature. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: passing by reference. a mental disease.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far it seems to be that adacore's gnat actually implements the standard; while fsf is a bit moth-eaten
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686786 ah waht a concept. so basically, barbarian lacks indoor voice ; and pantsuit lacks forum voice. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686786 << this is a very interesting point, and it is possible to go to a meatspace gathering of these types, and see this with own eyes ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 18:18 mircea_popescu: war makes the only thing peace never can, that is -- empty space. the value of empty space varies, from negative after a war to infinite during socialism.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 16:35 asciilifeform: i only know him as a steady source of disconnectolade rubbish
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 17:43 mircea_popescu: a that's unfortunate. woman went into mountain, watcher her 6 kids starve to deaths.
mircea_popescu: sucks to be a teen these days.
mircea_popescu: a that's unfortunate. woman went into mountain, watcher her 6 kids starve to deaths. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: curie happened as the domestic slave of a male ; not as an "equal partner" in a lesbo partnership.
asciilifeform: 'Murray Edwards College combines real academic excellence with strong pastoral support, as well as being a place where you can feel at home.'
trinque: or tell me, is the public chiming in re: phuctor? doesn't seem like such a thing cares, if it exists
asciilifeform: 'Murray Edwards is a Cambridge College for women. With so much gender inequality still in the world there is a role for a College able to focus on outstanding young women, their learning and skills for life.'
trinque: asciilifeform: the original claim was there is no longer a "the public"
asciilifeform: phuctor is a public www
asciilifeform: a backdoor ain't burned unless publicly.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 18:10 mircea_popescu: absolutely never licensing any of this. people wish to contribute, they get to participate, not to "just like bitcoin with a little bit of censorship" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: it's "once upon a timepad" neh /
asciilifeform: i still reel from the riotous idiocy of even calling a public string 'an otp'
mircea_popescu: you can't actually find a case where anyone has any legitimate complaint against the world. hasn't, yet, happened.
mircea_popescu: that was, since i was a wee tyke, the one fascinating, ceaselessly fascinating aspect of the world : that for all teh chagrin and professed despair and broken dreams hopes and aspirations etcetera
asciilifeform: i only know him as a steady source of disconnectolade rubbish ☟︎
daffadil: Haha yes. As the paper currently presents, the system is not built for privacy, especially if it uses publicly-indexed databases. However I thought that the idea of using mutational randomness as a physical process to generate private keys was interesting.
asciilifeform: the real usgtronic gem here is that there's massive existing investment in 'this is a transform of SOME dna sequence, SOMEWHERE, now tell me which' hardware ☟︎
mircea_popescu: even in the particular that literacy is reserved for a precious few.
asciilifeform: hort identification numbers of the DNA sequences in the database. It is crucial to store the unique secure key in a highly reliable carrier and transmit it through a special secure channel to guarantee the correctness of the secure key'
asciilifeform: 'The advantage of this method is that a binary random sequence of any length can be easily generated from public or private genetic databases. An unlimited number of distinct random sequences can be obtained by multiplexing, shifting or concatenating sequences from different DNA species. To solve the major drawback of the OTP cryptosystems, key storage and transmission, Borda et al. proposed communicating the secure key through the s
asciilifeform: ( summary : ustards are fixated on 'escrowable' ciphers, as they were called in 1990s, but today they do not use the word . i.e. schemes for getting your privkey to be something THEY can access on a whim )
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:59 asciilifeform: 'Identity-based encryption is a type of public-key encryption in which any arbitrary string (such as a user’s email address) can be used as a public key, enabling data to be protected without the need for long, randomly generated keys or certificates. Today, there are numerous standards for IBE based on Boneh’s work, including IEEE P1363.3 and several IETF RFCs.' << from the press release.
asciilifeform: only a ustard could have conceived of a gem like this.
asciilifeform: yes, totally want to leave UNCHANGEABLE privkey every time you take a shit
asciilifeform: hard to think of a more mindblowing idiocy
asciilifeform: 'It's also interesting to note that some miners are signalling to orphan themselves. Antpool, BTC.com, and BTC.top are all signalling for BIP 91 with bit 4, but are not signalling for segwit on bit 1. This means that once BIP 91 activates, if they don't change their version number (and it seems that this is a manual process as most mining pools set the version number manually), they will be orphaning their own blocks under the BIP 91
ave1: of clean gcc 4.9.4 from FSF to a gcc 4.9.4 that build with musl + gnat ☟︎
asciilifeform: it was on my conveyor and promised to be a very gnarly chore
ave1: p.s I already have a musl build for x86_64 (based on musl_cross) (works on adacore stuff and gcc-4.9.4), but is needs some more work
ave1: then you have a gcc you can build
ave1: p.s. I want to throw it out, but I like to have a version that cross compiles to ppc64le
ave1: I can build a gnat using the sources from adacore and all is fine
asciilifeform: anyway if your gnat does this, it is rubbish, throw it out, i will not be v-releasing an ffa where everything is not inlined, each non-inlined routine is a ~10% speed ding.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: <lobbes> damn. looks like my plans for my old craptop being a trb node will have to wait until I secure better iron. << Why can old craptop not eat SSD? << wtf I didn't even consider this. And yeah, this'll be a great opportunity to clean out the physical crap that's probably choking out the airflow in the thing.
BingoBoingo wonders how reactive a hand santizer would have to be to reliably convert most organic compounds to "safe" forms. Likely would look like a hand solving vat of H2SO4 + H2O2
mircea_popescu: "i'm not only a virgin, but i never laid a hand on my slit" comes with a smegma guarantee.
mircea_popescu: a sentiment i can sympathize with -- no better way to ruin the day of cleanfreak chick than making her open up her years-old laptop.
BingoBoingo: <lobbes> damn. looks like my plans for my old craptop being a trb node will have to wait until I secure better iron. << Why can old craptop not eat SSD?
BingoBoingo: <sina> whenever DPR does a thing, Vizzini is forced to say "Inconceivable" << Except irl, mircea_popescu is not short and DPR sits in sodomy box while mircea_popescu's muscle has titties
lobbes: damn. looks like my plans for my old craptop being a trb node will have to wait until I secure better iron.
lobbes: in other questions: Prompted by up-stack threads and after much log reading I've concluded that a SSD is a must for trb-ing. Would an external usb SSD be adequate, versus, say a SATA connection?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying the pretense of statics to a dynamic situation. trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents. they should have taken care that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able to move. they did not, and derelict in their first and practically speaking on ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 00:47 sina: feel free to say "it's a dumb question, go away"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686409 << altogether not even much of a question. ☝︎
hanbot: lol this poor guy's been trying to have a chuckle the last 20 mins...NOT ALLOWED!
sina: mircea_popescu: and yet it is so, the logs are the only place I can imagine such a sentence being discussed today
a111: Logged on 2015-12-28 01:23 mircea_popescu: the dictum "never get involved in a land war in asia" is mostly due to the fact that the portuguese were involved in a sea war in asia, and it worked splendidly for them.
sina: "You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses while your back was turned! Ha ha, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha... "
mircea_popescu has seen the "you killed my father" a long time ago.
sina: whenever DPR does a thing, Vizzini is forced to say "Inconceivable"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 19:52 mircea_popescu: romania incidentally has a long history of just this, it's called fanarioti period. hundreds of groups over 3-4 centuries did just this, kept taking over because pissed off with insolence of ex crown. discovered worse deal to be king.
sina: also a famous internet meme
sina: it's a picture of mircea_popescu https://68.media.tumblr.com/916cb4ae6b1ff824fc27d1ffdca8e207/tumblr_n915c69LhG1snb6qwo2_r2_400.gif
sina: mircea_popescu: only as a matter of curiosity, given your worth re above statement, do you take any of these actions?
mircea_popescu: 3) get a n-p detector, armed guards, your own spying machinery, declare interdiction zones, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: 2) get a proper power supply. this means -- that the power line should feed a battery, not your machine. you can measure leakage if you will, so this can be tweaked by hand to an arbitrary level.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in order of cheapness-effectivity : 1) get an isolated box for rsa ops. this shouldn't ever connect ot the internet. stuffing into it a stick which was in a net-connected machine counts.
mircea_popescu: it is a reasonably complete list.
mircea_popescu: there can never be a complete list.
sina: mircea_popescu: if that is a complete list, then I am content with a useful answer.
mircea_popescu: the costs of mitigation ever mount, which is why a proper solution is even contemplated.
mircea_popescu: sina> just, hopefully a list of adversary capability mapping to outcomes << anyone who can listen in (ie, intercept acoustic band) within a mile or so of your machine, can derive your key that way. anyone who can measure your power draw (say, up to the pole) can derive your key that way. anyone who can route to your box, and measure delays, can idem.
sina: "today, until a constanttime solution is in place, gpg is the tool of choice for RSA encryption. any time you use it, you can't know whether you have completely compromised your private key. and we use it anyway."
asciilifeform: i had nfi that this is a difficult concept.
trinque: and it wasn't a specific example
trinque: absent asciilifeform's expertise which gave ^ as output, one'd just turn that into a totem
sina: and so it is, "do not encrypt 500 cake recipes a second"
sina: trinque: of course! and I ask, is there no value in understanding the consequences of a given act?
trinque: sina: never been in a situation where you both had to act and there were no good options?
asciilifeform: == 'what is the point of obeying traffic signals, i have a good chance of death in traffic anyway'
sina: again to reiterate I seek only understanding, not to make a point or argument
trinque: if standing on hot coals, I bet you'd run even though you'd only step on more coals, at least for a while.
sina: it's not an argument, only the next thought that pops into my head as a consequence of the discussion. all here seem on the same page re constanttime stuff, yet all here are using the tool in spite of that, so there must be some thought process which allows someone as reasonably paranoid as asciilifeform to do so, i.e. "I am not concerned with timing attacks of class X, Y, Z from adversary A, B,C when I
asciilifeform: it's a 'to whom it may concern..'
asciilifeform: there isn't a 'to whom', that's what word 'broadcast' ~means~
sina: trinque: given the quoted statement, what are the implications? for example, does it imply that a passive network adversary will not be in a position to mount a timing attack? or does it so?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 00:40 asciilifeform: sina: the practicalities are - that every time you unholster your gpg key, you broadcast a few bits of it.
trinque: not a dumb question, just already answered http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686394 ☝︎
sina: I ask here, because I feel here can give a useful answer
sina: feel free to say "it's a dumb question, go away" ☟︎
sina: trinque: my question being, given a sina sitting in the crater, what is the list of things ~impervious to, what is the list of things not
trinque: "yes things are that bad. have a great day!"
sina: trinque: to extend your analogy. you are on a field, in a crater. you are ~impervious to horizontal machine gun attack thanks to the crater, but vulnerable to mortar attack
asciilifeform: the other practicality is that certain hypothetical uses of rsa -- such as specifically gossipd -- magnify this leak to the point where you are broadcasting the key at a few kHz
asciilifeform: sina: the practicalities are - that every time you unholster your gpg key, you broadcast a few bits of it. ☟︎
trinque: that you are on a field being mortared does not mean you've discounted the enemy
sina: asciilifeform: "you cannot conceal an awl inside a sack" understood and accepted