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asciilifeform: i was gonna have the thing xrayed, to learn the truth, but this also not done yet.
SeanRiddle: I can see traces on the pin side, making me think that the die bonds to them and the heatsink on top is the bottom of the die.
asciilifeform: but currently hard to be certain
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: shrobe's photo suggests that die top is on top of package
asciilifeform: amberglint: indeed, link is in the log
SeanRiddle: Looking at the package, I'm guessing the protrusion on the bottom would pop off, revealing the top of the die.
mircea_popescu: re argentine lulz, it seems there's an unadvertised trade war going on, in the limited sense that the us produces some soy the chinese deem too shitty to buy. better living through chemistry results.
amberglint: twenty of them were recently scrapped for gold...
asciilifeform: ( it aint even matter of cost; simply we're dealing with an almost-extinct animal. there's maybe a few dozen of these left in the wild, optimistically )
SeanRiddle: Yeah, I'd be too nervous anyway!
asciilifeform: if i had 5 or 6 of the 'ivories' i would happily give 1 to SeanRiddle , ftr. but currently must pass.
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: pro decapper + microscopist runs about 30k. so that's on hold pending asciilifeform actually having 30k to use on proj.
SeanRiddle: Heh - I was not told the value! Why not use a pro decapper? But you wouldn't torch that package.
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: the link 404's
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: just so you're aware of the orig subj -- the ic we were looking to see decapped is worth mebbe 10,000 $ ea. ( and at that, i have 0 guarantee of being able to find more . ever. ) i have a grand total of 2.
asciilifeform: or hm, this one's about a 'Amstrad 40010'
SeanRiddle: That one was a blowtorch decap, so some of the dirt is residue from the plastic encapsulation. I can clean that with HN03.
asciilifeform: ( and there are at least a dozen micrographs available )
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: were you ever able to actually re a circuit from your photos ?
asciilifeform: it is my understanding that any dust at all is a problem for this job
SeanRiddle: I'm taking jpgs with the camera and then stitching those with fiji. It looks as good to me as using RAW, but a lot easier.
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: is this the orig form of the https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Oki_m6283_metal.jpg item ? with dust & all ?
amberglint: asciilifeform: can you cut the picture back with something like imagemagick?
asciilifeform: ( what it also does, is prevent from loading the pic in sections, which is annoying )
asciilifeform: why's it a jpg anyway, wouldn't this introduce artifacts ?
asciilifeform sadly does not yet have with what to actually look at the photo
SeanRiddle: Yeah, that was something like 39x60 pics stitched ☟︎
asciilifeform: i had that thing, but it certainly didn't take 43k x 43k photos. didja stitch'em ?
asciilifeform tries to find sumthing that'll display that thing without choking ☟︎
SeanRiddle: That's the lo-res pic. Wikimedia sometimes chokes on my big pics, and I have to upload smaller ones. Go down to the File History and there's a link to a 43Kx45K pixel pic. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was this the http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mp.gif thing ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i guess, if there's any hero waiting in the wings to cut teeth on some code... it's not THAT intricate.
asciilifeform: it's a good try, but i dunno that this is usable for re.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 19:14 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876406 I won't get a chance to look at this until signed up with new daily bread overlord
asciilifeform: ( also seems to have dirt, which is problem, cuz 1 speck of shit can cover several 100 transistor at this density -- not even speaking of moar recent micronages )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 17:52 SeanRiddle: http://seanriddledecap.blogspot.com has links to where I uploaded big pics to wikimedia
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876486 >> notbad, e.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Oki_m6283_metal.jpg , but still can't see individual transistors there, unless i'm missing sumthing ☝︎
asciilifeform: in earlier days there were also folx stuffing strings into block hdrs, but dunno if this is still in fashion, and at any rate no longer doable if you aint chinese, to 1st approx
asciilifeform has personally used this mechanism for remote control of... autonomous machinery
asciilifeform: costs whatever the miner fee is, plus epsilon for payload ( most of the current chinese won't mine a 0-summing tx iirc )
asciilifeform: but sure can stuff in whatever bytes, iirc addr decoder barfing dun invalidate a tx , classically
mircea_popescu: something like that, yeh.
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall this gag
asciilifeform: hey didn't sumbody stuff in 'goldbug' virus from 1993 , and thereby trigger microshit's av
mircea_popescu: (by the way, since we're doing usg pretense & impotence : the bitcoin blockchain DOES factually contain child porn. exactly 0 anyone can do about this, which is why exactly 0 mention of this in pravda & co. much like exactly 0 mention on #metoo of all the "evil white men of patriarchy" that laughed @metootard all the way to the brothel.)
asciilifeform: ( then can encode txt as dest addrs )
asciilifeform: it's easier if you dun intend to recirculate the coinz.
asciilifeform: ( it wasn't obv from the link )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's several ways to 'add text' , aha , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490
mircea_popescu: your own "blockchain telegraphy" and a buncha "child porn in blockchain" antiqua are there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a small space in a tx to add some text.
asciilifeform: elderly academics who can barely hold up cup of tea, and buncha quasi-literate young folx ( see infamous http://btcbase.org/log/2013-12-01#400666 ) to wait on'em ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( not esp surprising tho )
asciilifeform: dun appear to be lispm-related, sadly
asciilifeform: ( somewhere on my hdd, there's a photo of shrobe walking across a stage holding up a 3620 , the kind in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=51 , in his hands, 'looksy, first 'portable' bolix' )
asciilifeform: amberglint: he's 1 of the folx i've tried writing to, in past yrs, perhaps you'll have better luck than i
amberglint: asciilifeform: I'll try to ask Howard Shrobe about the layers, maybe he still remembers if he deigns to answer
asciilifeform: or is this 1 of those heathen 'blockchain info' 'append note to your tx' promisetronic thingies
asciilifeform: yes, but ~where in the tx~ does the text live
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 17:27 mircea_popescu: btw Mocky -- teh bot dies through the following : often it makes so much stuff in one click it overwhelms its weight carrying capacity. any chance you can implement a fragmenter-if-overweight ? it's often enough to be a pain in the ass by now.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876406 I won't get a chance to look at this until signed up with new daily bread overlord ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: i dun see where 'embedded' tho
Mocky: "The other address has one notable transaction which is sent from 1JEWSxAgGhSFuNPHUAr13zftNLjYt5wZaS and 1MoSSaDDSStrRo53YjPaGcXiABAXfYuvEL. A dust transaction, it was confirmed in block 551895."
Mocky: The U.S. government cannot ban Bitcoin addresses" http://archive.is/jwoB9#selection-1777.0-1793.48
Mocky: "Still, a total of 6-7 transactions had been sent to the addresses by time of writing, some with intriguing transaction details. For instance, this transaction has an embedded message:
BingoBoingo: But yes, somehow they can afford reactor + crew from russia
BingoBoingo: Argentina claims to be exporting their whole soy crop to china. I guess they are trying to live off of whatever percent difference minus transport.
mircea_popescu: so what do they DO!!!! anymore!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876396 <<< aaaahahahaah omfg holy shit this beats all. ☝︎
amberglint: I know, just interesting that he keeps some old shit
asciilifeform: amberglint: pdp10 is approx as interesting as nintendo tho
amberglint: he shared them with people who are working on PDP-10 emulation
amberglint: Tom Knight still has some schematics for AI Lab's modified PDP-10 and his graphical terminal
asciilifeform: could have the crown jewels, or not, nobodyknows.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure, nor does this change much really.
asciilifeform: had 0 to do with design.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: house, was fulla iron, old moldy cards, hdds, consoles. dks was/is a repairman, afaik mechanical engineer orig by trade .
asciilifeform: ( moldy tapes also )
asciilifeform: it is on moldy papers. and iirc phf even has been to where.
mircea_popescu: eh, the red stapler guy, shit's always at his house. periodically they find a "traitor" fo this kind, had 9000 "secret" hard drives in basement.
asciilifeform: ( he condescended to give asciilifeform a keyboard pinout, and had to 'go to warehouse' to get )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dks ? made pretty convincing case that they aint at his house ( but whoknows )
mircea_popescu: amberglint best bet prolly hanging about when the dood what's his name croaks and buying the debris in his house.
amberglint: I wish I could locate the actual docs for NS
asciilifeform: amberglint: they're pretty sweet 4core arm64 boxen; i assembled and engentoo'd with own hand
amberglint: here's the pdf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2e9umvhpcss00b/ns-cherry.pdf?dl=0
amberglint: asciilifeform: I'll consider it, thank you for the offer
asciilifeform: for photo-heavy / warez etc www, i'd recommend the rk
mircea_popescu: wasn't there also a shared setup ?
asciilifeform: amberglint: there's an unsold rk ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 ) machine at pizarro, waiting for somebody's sweet bl0g
mircea_popescu: it'd certainly saving on all this "here's rando domain i put stuff on"
amberglint: mircea_popescu: had it on my mind lately, probably going to do it at some point soon
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:47 asciilifeform: to be fair the company was not really a honest commercial co, moar like one of those unofficial usg research institutes, they proliferated under reagan and died with him
amberglint: found it, "CAD Programming in an Object Oriented Programming Environment" by J. Cherry, going to upload it now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed, tho quite ironically bolix itself was quite analogous to a su research town
mircea_popescu: and people envied them for it and even considered defecting to it, and so on.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-25 07:05 mircea_popescu: "Our Solutions Leadership About Us Careers News Contact" who the fuck thought this is how you do it ? it's almost like the soviet butcher, "we're the advertising shop, we don't have publishers. fish is what they don't have in the shop down the street"
mircea_popescu: and wives that actually worked and banks that actually worked and suppliers and everything else that actually worked ; and very little of the soviet http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-25#1176177 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall that these folx had automation that actually worked.
mircea_popescu: remember back when they had folks who went to school ? "elite" husband-and-wife team could bake a great z80 game over a summer, and so on.