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ben_vulpes: hardly groundbreaking. just
tiptoeing around, because...enthusiasm kills
the sapper.
assbot: [Bash] #! /bin/bash # assumes
that bitcoind is running blockmax=$1 should_continue - Pastebin.com
assbot: [Bash] #!/bin/bash
TEST_DATA_DIR=aplace WEDGE_BLOCK=999999 clean_data_dir() { - Pastebin.com
ben_vulpes: i don't have a blockchain
that wedges yet, nor have i reproduced
the wedging point
ben_vulpes: Adlai: additionally, i'm scripting
the approach
to
the wedge point so
that i can reproduce both
the wedge and it not happening
trivially with git bisect and other scripts
ben_vulpes: the story behind its selection is pretty amusing and may need
to be revisited.
ben_vulpes: 0.5.3 is just a not unreasonable starting point for
the project.
ben_vulpes: 0.5.3 and earlier have wallets, and all
the concomittant braindamage like "reindex"
joecool: so 0.5.3 and earlier did not do such
things?
ben_vulpes: reverifying
the blockchain is something else entirely.
ben_vulpes: joecool: "reindexing" is something
that gavin's fork does
to find all of
the
transactions relevant
to addresses in your wallet in a given blockchain.
ben_vulpes: Adlai: git bisect is actually
the plan
Adlai envisions a method of automatically sussing out
the wedge point, but it requires
the use of automation
tools...
joecool: ben_vulpes: will it reindex a pulled in blockchain or is it a necessity
to pull in from start
to finish?
ben_vulpes: that i can use
to
track down potentially unwedging commits i should say.
ben_vulpes: i'm working
to crap out a "blockchain"
that i can use
to
test
this wedge
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: i'm still inching my blockchain
to wedging
thestringpuller: has anyone been able
to load blockchain yet without exploding?
ben_vulpes: but if you're going
to hack on it, start with
the 0.5.3 dist at f9beb4d9.org, apply asciilifeform's "chicken" patch, and
then yours on
top of
that.
thestringpuller: "There are no infinite loops in Ethereum because cycles cost currency and
there is a finite amount of currency."
joecool: so
there's a
todo, is
there a repo you guys are using or a a mailing list for patches?
ben_vulpes: (albeit poorly at any of
them individually)
ben_vulpes: the preference of "the community" for something
that sorta-works across a broad spectrum of use cases
ben_vulpes: kinda why
the open source ownership of satoshi's codebase failed so dramatically.
ben_vulpes: "the people" want everything
they're
told
they want and
to pay for nothing.
joecool: nubbins`: someone else will get around
to it
nubbins`: i
think "people" were expecting what people always have/will
joecool: asciilifeform: i see, what exactly has been happening? were people expecting gavin
to crap out a reference eventually or just keep adding BIP's and pile on
the crap?
nubbins`: incidentally, you'll get a chance
to check out pictures of my large-format binding work later
this month
nubbins`: np, may our day in
the sun come
Adlai: this roman doesn't seem
to care much for his friends' feet. perhaps
the shoe's pinch points would bother
them
too, if
they were
to walk long enough in
the same shoes?
joecool: hm reading about
the assets project
to roll back
to 0.5.3, i see "rip out bdb" ? drop wallet support so it only functions as node?
Adlai: and indeed, isn't it acceptable, in some circles at least,
to look at family photos?
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 233caa80975f203b65927c705e5fa2876354ab6ddb8c4f684ca76ebeab44ab71
nubbins`: i still want
to print
this if/when
the
time comes
that
the chicken is whittled down
to edible meat and bone
nubbins`: loose ends and
the
tying up
thereof!
nubbins`: - if
the project is deemed infeasible, 0.5 BTC (less
tx fees) will be returned
to a Bitcoin address specified by asciilifeform, no later
than 2014-11-15.
assbot: Logged on 09-04-2014 09:10:25; mircea_popescu:
tbh im kinda surprised
teh
tradepress isn't howling all about "in january, 'Bitcoin Baron Keeps a Secretive Open Source OS Alive' ; in april, nsa's crown jool is
thrown in
the dirt of
the public space."
Adlai: assbot is immune
to suicidal depression, because it doesn't even know it exists
☟︎ Adlai: which is quite an illiteracy,
these days
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 22:24:42; asciilifeform: (for n00bs only: who is 'lizard hitler' ? a character approximately as real as magnetic field lines were
to michael faraday. don't look for magnetic field lines,
they aren't
there. physically. or as far as we can
tell, anyway.)
☟︎ Adlai: Homo sapiens [sapiens] being essentially some form of automaton / robot slave / controlled experiment, conducted by
these lizard-nazis
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2013 00:40:16; asciilifeform: i can't help but imagine some fellow at Meta-NSA, with a pill against ECDSA hidden under a flower pot in his office, laughing his arse off at
these morons.
joecool: Adlai: used
to ! on
the otc channel, bad habit
undata: the pentagon is
the actual US govt
Adlai likes how
the pastebin gets dated by
the newsfart mention
undata: asciilifeform:
this brings me back
to my comments about
the pile of weapons
assbot: 00:57:19asciilifeform:anyone knows
the story of a man called Anatoliy Golitsyn? - Pastebin.com
undata: depending on who has
the hashing power and what
they intend
undata: bitcoin could easily be one of
the most dystopian inventions ever
undata: asciilifeform: yes
that
undata: here's a doubling down of it: NSA intends
to
take over
the hashing power of
the network and implement coin validation
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:43:25;
TheNewDeal: second
that statement
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2013 00:57:19; asciilifeform: anyone knows
the story of a man called Anatoliy Golitsyn?
undata: I don't see a reason
to pull any plugs
TheNewDeal: that's obvious
to me why it doesnt matter if he is nsa
undata: and continue
to be
the
thing
they've been
undata: TheNewDeal: supposing "he" is usgov; why wouldn't
they just sit back and let it
take over, and hold
their 1/21 or more of it?
TheNewDeal: not interested about
the nsa connection now, but
the "why hasn't he pulled
the plug?" question
undata: why would
they create it? impending fiat disaster?
TheNewDeal: the only one I can
think of is, wait until it gets 10, or 100
times bigger
Adlai: and please elaborate on
the hypotheses
Adlai: at least one
tla
took an active interest back in 2011...
undata: one can always suppose a reason why
tonight's
the night
they come
to get him
Adlai: surely
these purely hypothetical martians already had
their eyes on it before "bitcoin was valuable"
undata: but
this can be
taken
to
the absurd
ben_vulpes: why so much more confident in
the satoshi
turd
than
the conformal blackbox?
Adlai: well, you can't convince another person you're not a martian. hell, i don't
think i could convince myself
that i'm not unwittingly carrying out martian bidding.
undata: I'd observe it
then
try a clean re-implementation
undata: I might not
try and use
the
thing at all.