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asciilifeform always reads 'fb' as 'framebuffer', wonders who else.
The20YearIRCloud: as there were 100 posters made, me getting 50
The20YearIRCloud: Which is why i brought it up with you now, as I don't want to give a few away and then them yell at me saying they couldn't claim their 0.1btc
The20YearIRCloud: nubbins`: Regarding our SEC filing, Havelock & FPAI act as intermediaries (Which the SEC allows) Separating the US entity from Havelock. Our laywer has run the setup through several other legal advisors at the SEC and they all feel it's the best setup for what we're doing.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as is 'user friendly' << no, he has it kakobrekla
asciilifeform: as is 'user friendly'
The20YearIRCloud: punkman: RENT's NAV is right around .01btc/share, so there's some value to new shares @ the reduced amount even of .0075 with as low as BTC/USD is. It wasn't my preference to close down market, but if my investor indication goes through they'll all be sold within a week and the fund will be back to normal activity.
[]bot: Bet placed: 250 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 62(Y):38(N) by coin, 74(Y):26(N) by weight. Total bet: 1816.66146022 BTC. Current weight: 44,508.
asciilifeform: if cocaine could teleport - it would be as ubiquitous and invulnerable as w4r3z.
mircea_popescu: they have the same thing in argentina, it's called "precios cuidados". you can buy cheap shitty rice and w/e for pesos as if the official rate were meaningfull.
ThickAsThieves: how does btc stand a chance of avoiding all this? cant "goxcoins" be created and contained so as to depress market?
mircea_popescu: bounce no, as in "you may not buy candy with it"
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves, others - if your objective is not merely to avoid committing an indictable crime under american law as your lawyer was taught it, but to hide your wealth from total dekulakization - you cannot solve this problem without a closed arse-mouth btc cycle
bounce: as in, pressure group pays "experts" to "prove" teh intarwebz are full of badness. still. again. whatever.
ThickAsThieves: so basically if you are an otc seller, you just gotta watch out for buyers saying suspicious things, as they may be agents
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well i suppose i misread. yes, as a internal-regulations-abiding inmate, it doesn't exist for you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bitcoin had an otc market larger than the exchanges back in 2012 << this is where, at least from my jail's eye view, the buggers - won. as usaschwitz inmate, otc doesn't even exist for me. in order for it to exist - i'd have to become embroiled in handling suitcases of benjies in meatspace. precisely the kind of thing агентурная работа is optimized to roll up participants of. ☟︎
asciilifeform: so you get a vacuum that is about as good as the water's vapour pressure at the room's temperature & pressure. not bad. cheap. if you remember school - you used this 'medieval' gadget.
asciilifeform: TomServo: these folks are not necessarily brilliant schemers, but they have the basics nailed down. such as how to trade 'interesting' coin for 'boring' coin.
asciilifeform: so long as your 'throne' (kingly, ministerial, city-dogcatcher, commissioner of farts, etc) is a thing - and isn't constantly probing your arse for worthiness to sit thereon - it will behave this way.
[]bot: Bet placed: 250 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 72(Y):28(N) by coin, 80(Y):20(N) by weight. Total bet: 1566.66146022 BTC. Current weight: 44,515.
asciilifeform: shamans, if clever, will merely crib from the deviants as needed.
asciilifeform: (some people see this as something which has already happened, but that's besides the point of the example)
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 85(Y):15(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1316.66146022 BTC. Current weight: 44,517.
asciilifeform: press also has enemies it can, as a whole, agree on. untermenschen, if you like. some things 'it would not do' to print.
mircea_popescu: my own pet theory, which you may laugh at as you will, is that the difference is the investment of hate. these people hate women, fundamentally, and as such they no longer need to look out for enemies, and so everyone else is a friend.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "the press" avoids linking to people like the plague, as the quoted piece from maddox yest showed. and i suspect this has a lot to do with their collapse, it's not the internet, is that they misunderstood the importance of reference.
teward: thestringpuller: keep in mind homes are governed under separate rules as well
teward: thestringpuller: if we want to be truly logical about analyzing this situation... then lets look at state taxes as well
thestringpuller: additionally as property if you own said property for X amount of time (i don't know the exact figure in this state), you get the capital gains waived.
teward: thestringpuller: that's a gray area that you could argue in the tax courts, but you're right. if you don't liquidate the BTC and hold the BTC for over one fiscal year then those bitcoins are only subject to the capital gains tax as well as the income tax IF the liquidation occurs during that fiscal year. At any later date after the BTC has been held for a year it should be the case that it's THEN capital gains taxed.
asciilifeform: there is an ancient law involved. 'не пойман — не вор' - 'not caught -- not thief.' known in english lands, if i'm not mistaken, as 'the eleventh commandment.'
thestringpuller: teward: yea if you own the property for X amount of time the capital gains taxes are waived. This is a loophole for homeowners, btc falls under the same statutes. But you still have to pay income tax on income from BTC. I.e. i get paid in BTC as part of some employment contract. The receipt of those coins needs to be claimed with the IRS and then you gotta pay whatever during income tax.
teward: at least in the USA, we get taxed that as part of our income tax, but depending on the length of the ownership of the item which gets you capital gains, there's different tax rates
ThickAsThieves: same as "ordinary income:
nubbins`: "Regardless of whether securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, enter the total number of investors who already have invested in the offering: 1"
Mrstickball: they are as well, AFAIK
assbot: How Financial Bubbles Fester And Burst—Even As The Fed Says Not To Worry | David Stockman's Contra Corner
chetty: http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/how-financial-bubbles-fester-and-burst-even-as-the-fed-says-not-to-worry/
assbot: Sound Wallet Audio Cold Storage - Your private key as .wav, CD, or a Record
mircea_popescu: “This record was hand shaped and individually cut in real time using a vintage 1940s Presto 75A recording lathe. It is a unique piece. It is not the same as a traditional pressed record. It was not made in a factory. It was hand carved from an 8ft sheet of polycarbonate plastic, shaped, sanded, waxed and cut in real time by one person.”
ThickAsThieves: as of mid-Aug it was $2m with $5m projection for year end
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "I've at this point given up at editing any of the text at all. " << this is often a clue the whole thing is not worth publishing, as painful as may be. ie, if one guy can't be bothered to spend an extra minute on the strength of the material, there's cause to believe a thousand readers shouldn't be asked to spend that one second it takes them to decide they don't want it.
mircea_popescu: punkman: close, 3 have big tits << depends on whether we accept some particular notions as to the genetics that cause big tits dunnit ?
mircea_popescu: "Women voting. A free and independent society. Choose one. The choice between the two is rarely so obvious as this, though." an' stuff.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem, she could just as well be 16 or w/e
dub: mike_c: its probably (as TheNewDeal said) lining up with the tax year? It does in some places by convention
mike_c: dub: actually for some stupid reason many US companies use July 1 as start of fiscal year
mircea_popescu: but 3 days, so as to have equal basis.
nubbins`: like the bet resolves as yes if the first day of spring falls on x?
dub: can you nix any bets that refer to a season as being related to a time of teh year
TheNewDeal: I'm not saying it's impossible, but specifying the date is about as difficult as weighting the probabilty of the event occuring in the first place
TheNewDeal: was wondering that as well
TheNewDeal: I hung around people that mixed the two, started doing it myself, continued smoking as a habbit
BingoBoingo: devthedev: In that case Buenos Aires still seems a hell of a lot safer, but... Florida would offer me more places to stock up on Rum as opposed to taking the overland route.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Just kinda paranoid as fuck
mircea_popescu: i read that as "the gay pundit"
mircea_popescu: you look burly enough, you can prolly get a job as an arbolito.
BingoBoingo: As far as the seperate federal question goes, I'm just an expensive dead end.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> like say a mechanical rib pinch of the pleura << On the boner drugs that ought to be properly diagnosed as pneunothorax
mats_cd03: as an aside, the tools ddrescue and scalpel are pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: ons. If it can be conditioned into a boy/man to ‘feel bad’ about seeing more than one woman at a time, it only better serves the female-as-chooser dynamic."
mircea_popescu: "My critics will often take a binary stance in their arguments with this idea citing that “they could never be with more than one woman at a time out of respect for her” or “so I should just lie to her and see other girls on the side?” To which I’d argue that these are feminized social conventions that attempt to thwart a man’s options in order to establish women as the prime selectors in intersexual relati
nubbins`: almost as important as knowing how to recover from said backups :D
BingoBoingo: On the radio now, I often hear the Ferguson insurgents being refered to as Terrorists.
mircea_popescu: funny how the skirt cumrag guy is probably going to end up remembered as the augustulus v2.0
BingoBoingo: I still don't understand why Yarvin fucking did "Jets" as his fallback to x86 derivatives sucking
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened to "I failed. I overestimated my cognitive ability and misjudged our abilities. This is because I suck. I am going to sit in a corner for a little bit, suck the cock of much better men and maybe come back later. Perhaps as a girl."
gribble: Nick 'jenninsea', with hostmask 'jenninsea!~jenninsea@c-24-16-188-43.hsd1.wa.comcast.net', is identified as user 'jenninsea', with GPG key id 7D086E89462A4255, key fingerprint 89B1069E568B77CC73598B4A7D086E89462A4255, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: The "serious schools" as there was a discussion of not too long ago here are essentially palace economies that dominate the surrounding geography.
mircea_popescu: that's like the only identifiable point of bitcoin programme. "let's act as if idiots didn't exist"
Namworld: New plot device, just as retarded as before.
asciilifeform: i see it as virtually certain that the sr stash was 'washed' - i.e. traded for some quantity of 'uninteresting' coin, of the kind the public has not been sniffing the blockchain history of on a daily basis; which was then used as fuel with which to stoke gambits like 'ethereum.'
asciilifeform: as i understand, they are simply baking on painting the tape 'dark enough' with arse-mouth lowball bids.
mircea_popescu: obscure band from nowhere, as described by Paul Klotschkow in Nottingham Culture - LeftLion
Vexual: i classify no east asian pirate as pussy
cazalla: this sums it up well - "The storyline of Archeage is a war between whites and east Asians, and much of the game play is piracy, with much of the piracy featuring conflicts between whites and east Asians. White male avatars are depicted as way better than anyone else, even though this game was written and the art drawn by east Asians. (And, by the way, the Mongols are catboys)"
TheNewDeal: I may be wrong, but, the other day I think the topic of french woment showing their tits as part of some feminist revolution was discussed in here? Anyway here's a video that should provide some lulz. Forewarning, it's 10 minutes long, and retarded http://www.upworthy.com/a-french-film-showing-men-what-being-a-woman-feels-like-kinda?c=reccon1
cazalla: mircea_popescu, close! but no cigar as they say :P
asciilifeform: hasn't worked correctly till about 2004 >> imperial collapse isn't terribly great for satellite constellations. as usa will soon discover.
mircea_popescu: lmao that guy has no future as a robber
asciilifeform: decimation: as per very definition of bezzlar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform % of total world still works as a comparison term.
nubbins`: i think there's a guy in montreal with one of those as well
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin.org is the original domain name used with the first Bitcoin website. It was registered and is still managed by Bitcoin core developers and by additional community members, with the input of Bitcoin communities. Bitcoin.org is not an official website. Just like nobody owns the email technology, nobody owns the Bitcoin network. As such, nobody can speak with authority in the name of Bitcoin.
BingoBoingo: RagnarsBitch: Also with that site... It just functions as a sort of Ebay trying to be a "dumb" middleman so contacting rig owners off their paltform is a hassel
mircea_popescu: so 60x as much wastage ?
X-Rob: this is now as good as it's going to get 8)
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Might as well.
jurov: As early as 1987, the New York Times wrote: "by the early 80's, Mr. Jobs was widely hated at Apple. Senior management had to endure his temper tantrums. He created resentment among employees by turning some into stars and insulting others, often reducing them to tears. Mr. Jobs himself would frequently cry after fights with fellow executives".
bounce: "liberal" sounds right-wing to me, as in non-labour. but then, us politics are right-shifted compared to pinko-commie treehugging yurpeen politics.
asciilifeform: same as how many people in usa refer to usg tentacle monster as 'washington'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, as far as romanians are concerned, russians (muscali) have tails.
mircea_popescu: basically it masquerades as an ontology when it's merely phenomenology is my objection.
mircea_popescu: in fact items as expensive as 50k are consumer products just fine, because of the finance economy.
mircea_popescu: the only consideration is if the thing actually costs 18k to make (cars don't really, but the mess of "safety" and "environmental" regulations make the "car" as defined actulaly cost a lot to make)
thestringpuller: but there is on mine as I might be able to get these into Zumiez
nubbins`: so your trademark "TM" thing shows up as Arial, dead-center
qq1932: here's the deal guys. if you google >patents public disclosure< you will see that there are limits to what can be said in a public channel, since I do not plan on entering the manufacturing field of the project. privately after a brief agreement I can and am happy to share 100%. tihs is part of why I need someone who would self-qualify as being able to discriminate and, e.g., understand the Watt steam engine in 1700.
los_pantalones: suppose that's possible as well