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Framedragger: “Cern does not condone this type of spoof, which can give rise to misunderstandings about the scientific nature of our work.” bhah
Framedragger: oh my. sly fuckers rewriting history yet again :/
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm maybe but i don't think so - i think he lived / spent some time there in the past
Framedragger: ^ true, i guess; and political control over idiots is not a de facto given at all, so, sure, problem.
Framedragger: only one last step was left!!! just need to.. patch.. it's legit guyz
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm actually felling a bit of that constructive mp-rage towards gnupg. by god it should be kicked and replaced as soon as possible
Framedragger: `log_hexdump` was being used incorrectly? (i'm only catching up, hey)
Framedragger: is that why alf was calling himself and others idiots (or what was the word)
Framedragger: (i'll go thru them myself, interesting stuff..)
Framedragger: fucking hell. nice public elucidation articles, asciilifeform and mircea_popescu
Framedragger: asciilifeform: (14.3s to grep thru 3gb file fwiw)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: grep is amazingly fast because it does it in a smart way (you prolly know). i can give some number but i expect the q is rhetorical (i.e.: it's fast) :)
☟︎ Framedragger: (..ssd would probably speed things up, just to reiterate..)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ahh, ok. much thanks for elucidation
Framedragger: asciilifeform: obtw, did the breaking of that khadeer modulus come from you implementing the "check (NextPrime(2^1023))^2" heuristic? 'cause that's bound to yield some new results!
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523161 << you know, that's an apt characterization, and i think you're right re that second group of wanna-be anarchists; true, probably. and i am aware that tmsr regards bitcoin *quite* differently indeed, which manifests in the block size discussion etc. yeah.
☝︎ Framedragger: (i may be mistaken about the actual number of years)
Framedragger: so it makes sense for someone who got acquainted with him earlier to regard him more highly
Framedragger: and he wrote that book, quite earlier than that
Framedragger: before, he would try to keep his focus on lisp
Framedragger: phf: probably ~7 years ago, give or take; i predict what you're going to say: in 2009, he was already spewing too much nonsense
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just to me, any dreams of "global anarchist revolt" *are* lost on me (i'm terribly naive but not *that* naive). personal responsibility and individualism (vague word, i know) are necessary conditions. and.. yeah, i don't have much hope for humanity, given that...
☟︎ Framedragger: mircea_popescu: uh that was a question, more like
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: the point is that whether the difference is from this kind of tree ordering, this is unknowable..
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm, yeah. it can become more serious, i suppose
Framedragger: phf: i'm curious, what was it that made you to originally regard tptacek highly? was it his words/discussions (and then later you decided that it's the only stuff that the man has actually produced - a fair point i guess, if you dismiss the crypto challenges, for example)?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: "the sequel - was almost wholly free of mathematics, and replete with 'best practice because my arse thusly spoke' crapolade." << okay, that's sad, and an educational case
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean.. i agree; i just don't agree that tptacek fits the category. sure, there are analogies, but then there exist analogies with mircea_popescu, too.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: (just ftr i don't think too much of bruce, either)
Framedragger: i need a longer conversation-thread-stack in my mind.
Framedragger: phf: so you don't regard matasano crypto challenges as anything worthy, then?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yes, okay, that... is bullshit, lol.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: agree re no intrinsic value, incidentally. this does not nullify there being possible to distinguish valuable writing from shit writing, *within a framework of meaning* that we can all agree on.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: one *could* maintain that there was no interesting finding for someone who trusts gpg import policy. and yes, a fool is he who trusts gpg; but a charitable interpretation of such an opinion is possible
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ... "everyone who disagrees is usg stooge" is the vibe i'm getting; impossible to have an actual conversation then
Framedragger: asciilifeform: look i won't fault you for pre-forming an opinion on tptacek and not spending your valuable time re-evaluating it. but such heuristic lumping of people into two camps is rather crude indeed. i know someone may reply "this serves tmsr's purposes well anyway, so what of it" - well, okay..
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: god damn it, no.. i'm anti-essentialist anyway
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i claim that one can post actually valuable stuff, seen by other people; and one can post shit, and these categories can be distinguished.
Framedragger: phf: yes, true, i know, but for some mp is "person who wrote lots of important text"
Framedragger: phf: bashing and critique of shitty crypto projects, calling out their authors (see discussions between tptacek and kaepora or however the other dood's nick is spelled) - they're a valuable public service
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i mean, the dude thomas p tacek is, at least
Framedragger: phf: but he did produce a valuable corpus of comments on HN, incl. decisive critique of cryptocat, etc etc
Framedragger: phf: matasano crypto challenges and the new crypto ctf thing he and others did (i didn't try it) are a great public service; i mean the challenges start simple in the beginning but if one followed them to the end, actual reading of recent crypto papers would be required etc.; surely that counts as something? he didn't pioneer anything in crypto, sure.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah that is fair, too, though i maintain that anyone using any such implementation is an irrevocable shithead and phuctor won't do them much good anyway - but maybe it will, i don't know; and phuctor is a needed public service anyway (so i'm not arguing against that, ftr)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: this then is a critique of sks keyservers, strictly. there was a thread on their ML, they rejected the idea of rejecting such subkeys (...)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: okay, fair point, then. i should have checked. (maybe i will, out of curiosity / concern). not that i have *too* much faith in gpg, sure
Framedragger: asciilifeform: oh i won't argue with that! well, of course. but say i took your pubkey and generated a subkey for it and uploaded that subkey (it wouldn't import into gpg). would you truly care?
Framedragger: import subkeys with no valid self-sig? or am i misreading what is stated in the article? because to me those statements (in the broader context) are rendered into that meaning precisely.
Framedragger: (i'm sorry for being slow here, multitasking with too many tabs)
Framedragger: (funnily enough, as regards authority, i regard 'tptacek very highly)