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mircea_popescu: then they don't deliver
mircea_popescu: at first they promise "jobs for everyone and cheapoer prices"
mircea_popescu: now, this is a general economic principle, and it applies jut as well to monolithic coding approaches.
mircea_popescu: soon enough you turned greenwich village into detroit.
mircea_popescu: the shops that were closed by its competition won't return
mircea_popescu: ye, the people that left in exasperation at all the sprawl won't come back.
decimation: in the sense that the midgets were all slain
mircea_popescu: should it find a nice place to sit for a while, such as a neighbourhood, it will be fine for as long as it sits, and when that's done can walk away
mircea_popescu: think of a supermarket as if it were a giant, walking the land of midgets.
asciilifeform: poettering and his followers have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to build a non-diabolical doorknob, much less init system
decimation: nope, what does that mean?
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the "giant stool" approach to economics ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then fails to deliver.
asciilifeform: actually we have here a rare case of danger from an unwillingness to move from the technological into the political gear of thought.
decimation: now, it does give some functionality in exchange - faster boot times, 'carefully managed' boot process, etc
mircea_popescu: just because your old clunker is rusty doesn't mean you should add a bamboo patio on the roof.
decimation: but systemd is worse, in the sense that it adds a layer of obfuscation
mircea_popescu: decimation i can see that point.
decimation: heh yeah I read that. to be honest, I'm not sure the existing init system is worthy of much praise
mircea_popescu: i feel unequal to the task.
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWs391 )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110090 << if anyone feels like explaining to the kid 'what the unix/linux values are'
decimation: he knows how to please those who please the state
decimation: he knows how to please those who please the state
mircea_popescu: whatever that is.
mircea_popescu: mebbe thiel should stick to what he knows
thestringpuller: "The idea that taxes drive the value of money.known as chartalism.goes back at least as far as German economist Georg Friedrich Knapp.s 1905 book .The State Theory of Money."
decimation: Alexander seems to be a master at deflecting blame
decimation: "The now-retired NSA official, a longtime code-breaker who rose to top management, had just learned in 2009 about the top secret program that was created shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. ... “An individual did bring us these questions, and he had some great points,” Alexander told the AP. “I asked the technical folks, including him, to look at it,”"
assbot: AP Exclusive: Before Snowden, a debate inside NSA - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOqZiH )
mats_cd03: they're displaying now, i didn't know that happened with new bets
kakobrekla: they go to 1?
mats_cd03: what's with the weights on these bets?
[]bot: Bet created: "Case hardware wallet theft reported before November 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1073/
[]bot: Bet created: "BitPay to process $12M or more during 2014 Bitcoin Black Friday" http://bitbet.us/bet/1072/
mircea_popescu: happens all teh time.
nubbins`: !up twizt
nubbins`: !up theotcguy
asciilifeform: 'Hindus enjoy 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million, or more. None of them offered a Sanscrit pre-publication proof of Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson or volunteered Novocain.' -- al schwartz
mircea_popescu: fizzled as one'd expect. there's a reason india was a colonial empire and not vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: this is actually a general point. i recall a few decades ago bored stupid californian housewifes and ex actresses went all crazy about how india is going to be teh great cure
asciilifeform: there's typo in there, i think
mircea_popescu: Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
mircea_popescu: i just treated girly anemia with succinate
asciilifeform: and they aren't even infectious.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, what the african activists willing to speak plainly say sounds a whole fuckload of a lot just like what the paternalist southern lobby was saying in the us, early 1800s.
mircea_popescu: "If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed." i ca see this.
mircea_popescu: at least whitey TRANSPORTED them, ya know ?
mircea_popescu: yeah seems the inescapble fate of the black race, extermination at the hands of the yellow.
asciilifeform: once they're done terraforming it.
asciilifeform: perhaps the chicoms, in a decade or three, will share an honest picture of that continent.
mircea_popescu: other than being an european in the "mare nostrum" sense of that concept, me either.
asciilifeform not expert on africa, does not know how much of the piece is 'reversed stupidity'
mircea_popescu: well you know, without this without that... basically you're what, talking of "african americans" ?
jurov: if they exclude maghreb, too.. but nairobi seems to have decnt infra, too
mircea_popescu: first class had better service than anywhere i've ever been, including switzerland
mircea_popescu: this is very unfair. i have personally used the egyptian trains, cairo to luxor
mircea_popescu: well, in fairness part of this may be that the african gdp is sinking in realer terms. if same were applied, the us sunk since the 80s something fiercer
jurov: Brazil is the country of future. And forever shall be.
jurov: lol wins again... a brazil joke came to mind:
mircea_popescu: Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as: a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason.
mircea_popescu: you shoulda just ate the damned peas!
mircea_popescu: see jurov, and now god gave them aids for your sins.
jurov: i was quite a brat: "you don't want to eat this? think of starving children in africa, they'd like this" "well, so send it to them"
mircea_popescu: i remember this. when i was like 6 old women around me were "omg, you look like you're from biafra! eat something!"
mircea_popescu: "In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra"
mircea_popescu: i guess you're faster than me
mircea_popescu: mnah, safely along the tracks
mircea_popescu: lettuce see there. boldly
asciilifeform: approximately: 'bravely the railman / drunkenly struts / if he's run over / he'll show you some guts!' - 'comrade, don't fear death!'
jurov: orcs shave? TIL
mircea_popescu: your own life is not actually within your control. valuing something outside of your control is logically broken, and that basis is enough for any ulterior brokenness to be itnroduced.
mircea_popescu: lemme make the argument here.
asciilifeform: (can replace with whatever names one prefers, so long as remembering that 'orc' regards 'human' as effete nithling, and 'human' regards 'orc' as a filthy shaved ape.)
mircea_popescu: it's just typical of actual people, as neatly opposed to dickles otakus or w/e populate teh us.
assbot: Statistical Review - Transport Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5hdI4 )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "casual attitude to life and death" he discusses is in no way typically african.
pete_dushenski: lol yup. a moose will do the same thing
mircea_popescu: african guy never been to canada.
mircea_popescu: Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida).
mircea_popescu: ANYONE. is lucky. to make it past 40.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this gaffe is pestilentially ubiquitous
mircea_popescu: "Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty." ahem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1/2/3/4 it seems quite probable that's exactly how this particular "engineering for excellence" thing works.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski BingoBoingo i like how positive you two are tho.
assbot: “The Community” Will Bust Your Balls If You Don’t Listen To Them And Break Your Bank Account If You Do | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5e62R )
pete_dushenski: pankkake is firing up more than just trilema today :) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/the-community-will-bust-your-balls-if-you-dont-listen-to-them-and-break-your-bank-account-if-you-do/#comment-5452
xanthyos: i grew up watching saved by the bell. zack morris never had these problems.
ben_vulpes: what's your cross today, xanthyos ?
BingoBoingo: Well, that's what you get for doing a persian penis trick
xanthyos: no one's supposed to struggle this much in life
xanthyos: god is teasing me, the same way he teased jesus
BingoBoingo: ^ Since there's a theme this week
jurov: i'll prolly reply "yes, bugs are fine, they eat every day and laid some eggs"
jurov: dud tries hard to get some "bug bounty"
jurov: ^ copied some text about insecure cookies from wikipedia previously
jurov: Hello Sir When You Gonna Message At-Lest Tell Me Sir What's Going On Are You Fixing My Bugs Or Not Are You Seeing My Bugs Or Not Do You Have Any Problem With My Bugs ? Why Are You Behave Like That Sir Why Are You Ignoring Peoples This Is Not Well Behavior Sir Please Respect Our Work Ok Cause It Was Really Hard Work Which I Had Done And You Again Didn't Send Me Message ?/???
asciilifeform: some of these could work well with new text.
undata: asciilifeform: the characters in those posters have an almost minstrel quality
pete_dushenski: i'll see if i can't find a place for that