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asciilifeform: (since you can't stop other folks from sending you bastard garbage)
punkman: asciilifeform: I don't really have a theory. are we sure that nuked orphanage can't cause more wedges?
ag3nt_zer0: am i supposed to enter the entire text file, including ---Begin Public Key Block----, or just the string of shit? sorry don't know the technical term...
phf: asciilifeform: well, i wouldn't say "trivial", but yes
decimation: jurov: I was envision the miners paying for your caches, on the assumption that most folks won't want to pay a third party to clearn bitcoin
phf: asciilifeform: it's not a permanent stuck, but a slowdown. i haven't sent out that orphanage graph that i posted some time ago, because i'm still kicking shit around, but the beahior that you can see from it, is that blocks are sent out as multiple subchains. when a subchain arrives that's missing a parent subchain, it gets rejected many times over and over, until parent subchain is filled in. i think the behavior can be improved by
phf: re: orphanage, i'm still investigating, but there's no reason why we can't have a better initial sync block handoff strategy, that doesn't get stock, because some parent in an orphanage subchain failed to get sent out
asciilifeform: think of it this way - the mempool isn't, by the same token, really 'part of bitcoin' either
decimation: umm, didn't you just complain about the orphan problem?
mircea_popescu: decimation riddle me this : you don't like reading dumb "newspapers", but how many good ones were sunk by exactly this before you heard of them ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206352 << obviously, inasmuch as they're the result of lengthy consideration / involved discussion here, their unexpected downsides shouldn't be expected to be provided by us. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 23.45.18.92 pings just fine. honestly it'd be sad if it didn't.
asciilifeform: again, it wasn't in mircea_popescu's spec ☟︎
decimation: yeah I didn't recall the encrypted part being mentioned before
decimation: as I recall his objection is that he didn't want third parties to be able to easily glean identites from packets
asciilifeform: and since we aren't a usg wankatron like tor, there is no reason for all of the 'gates' to be publicly advertised
asciilifeform: decimation: wouldn't go that far
jurov: but if you check sigs at destination, then you haven't solved ddos at all
decimation: also, I don't know what the 'web 2.0' thing he posted a picture of is? is that some kind of dns control panel? ☟︎
mod6: the only thing in the obj-test directory before applying that patch is '.gitignore' so why wouldn't it be removed like obj/test and obj/nogui?
mod6: anyway i'll work on it. just don't use the rm_gitignore patch.
mod6: ben reminded me to add a patch that removes the 5 .gitignore files. seems easy enough, so crated a quick patch, attempted to apply, worked fine -- I didn't notice that it blew away the directories as well though. : obj/test obj/nogui obj-test
mod6: so yeah this is annoying with `patch`. if you do `patch -p1 --posix < rm_gitignore.patch` it doesn't remove the dirs /or/ the files, just leaves 'em truncated. which is dumb too.
Naphex: ah :D didn't know you were that emberrased :)
danielpbarron: having to do this on display infront of other guys isn't the most condusive to arousal i would imagine
danielpbarron: isn't the point to tell the girl what you'd like to see
mircea_popescu: there are TONS of such problems with the thing. not that they're necessarily unresolvable - maybe they'll get fixed. they won't get fixed however for a pet project that goes about as far as the "be an astronaut" curios.
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:33:59; mod6: Anyway, most of the submissions so far have been pretty top notch. We want to encourage people in the WoT to submit patches. If something is submitted but doesn't make it into a release right away, that certainly doesn't mean it won't be pulled in to a later milestone.
mod6: perhaps we just don't use my submitted patch and then I just prune the baracles by hand in the release source base.
mod6: `man 1 patch`: -E When patch removes a file, it also attempts to remove any empty ancestor directories. << i can't get it to leave the empty dirs.
mod6: so that isn't gonna work.
mod6: i can't get it to remove the file and leave the dir, or to just truncate the file and leave the dir.
decimation: I haven't looked into that
mod6: I don't see any ref's in the makefile to src/obj/test
mod6: oh hmm, for some reason, i don't understand this (maybe someone can look at my patch and tell me why??) but apparently not only were the .gitignore files removed, but the directories were too.
decimation: it sucked because there was no cabin heat; they weren't allowed to breathe
decimation: lol I didn't realize the old ones were air cooled
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't want a water-cooled porsche.
decimation: that's why the other top gears didn't really work, clarkson made the show
pete_dushenski: actually this isn't a bad game : name all the cars you'd buy with $75k cash. go !
cazalla: don't get me wrong, some of these cars in that price range do look nice but i cannot imagine putting the cash down for it let alone taking a loan
pete_dushenski: you can't tell me 100k isn't the same as a 7 year waiting list
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't see your comment either
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i don't see your comment either
Adlai: pete_dushenski: your comment doesn't appear from here
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:17:48; shinohai: ok, then that is just 2, and testnet isn't important
pete_dushenski: ascii_modem: you don't seem like the broadway type but i'd be fascinated to know what you might see if you had the time for a show.
pete_dushenski: can't anyone take a test drive of a tesla model s ?
mod6: i don't/haven't ever setup the buildroot stuff.
mod6: i dunno yet. i haven't tried the new one.
mod6: <+punkman> mod6, what's missing from git output? << if you used -pU, it doesn't reflect that in the patch
mod6: <+punkman> (I did -pU, didn't change anything) << ah ok. git must have stripped that helpful information from the patch. fuck git.
punkman: (I did -pU, didn't change anything)
punkman: ben_vulpes, doesn't do much
mod6: Anyway, most of the submissions so far have been pretty top notch. We want to encourage people in the WoT to submit patches. If something is submitted but doesn't make it into a release right away, that certainly doesn't mean it won't be pulled in to a later milestone. ☟︎
mod6: honestly I don't have anything in mind at all.
mod6: punkman has his debug_sanity, but I hvane't had a chance to test version two, and it's not a super high priority for me at this very moment.
shinohai: ok, then that is just 2, and testnet isn't important ☟︎
mod6: Haven't had enough spare time to dig into it. Been hectic enough just trying to keep up with all the incoming patches.
cazalla: can't say i'm too fussed on the idea and both times i was pressured into it and obliged because if i don't, someone else surely will, in it goes
mircea_popescu: womenz don't desire teh buttseks, womenz desire to be hurt by a cool guy. buttseks' means to an end.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact the various governmenbts don't have enough of a clue to even keep track of the most direct threats to their very existence,
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:39:46; ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:02:21; mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it.
pete_dushenski: this is what passes for "being observant" in an industry where you can't actually criticise the plastic balls of shit you drive every week.
pete_dushenski: or if they were urbanites, they weren't died in the wool urbanites
pete_dushenski: right. it wasn't the urbanites that were fleeing the old world so much.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 23:24:38; williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
punkman: any of those left that Diageo doesn't own?
lolballz: *can't
lolballz: i don't mind heineken, i like to know what my armpit smells like tommorrow
TheNewDeal: and for the record punkman, the 10 crack commandments shouldn't be grouped with the liberal buzzfeed nonsense, because that's legitmate knowledge passed down by a semi-respectable ruffian
ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing ☟︎
mircea_popescu: here we sit discussing "elites" in a space that doesn't even know how to keep the servants in line
mircea_popescu: and yes, anyone else contemplating the same position'd better get in their skulls that no, they don't get to fuck around on the job.
mircea_popescu: i don't believe in the prescriptive approach.
mircea_popescu: don't covet another man's fleet of ships, gaggle of cunts or flock of deer.
mircea_popescu: i ask because this is a fine example of english being a pigdin, where dictionaries don't define and nothing means anything specific
mircea_popescu: you gotta ask the girl out to be a man. that's the bar. you don't ask, you're not a man. you hint at her you might like to, you're a lesbian trapped in a transsexual's body, not a man.
decimation: " If you do stop and talk to Jim, you'll discover that the hardest work in the whole project was fending off all kinds of attacks on him and his work coming from the federal government and the National Forest Service: he's on private property but he's surrounded by National Forest and the feds want complete control of everything. In Jim's words: the only thing they haven't done is they haven't shot him, yet."
mircea_popescu: i guess neartly all locales in the us are fortunate i don't give a shiot about building anything there.
mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but that aside : they aren't.
mircea_popescu: or "that wasn't necessary" or some bs.
mircea_popescu: if i go up to obama and take a leak on his shoes he's going to say "that's inappropriate" isn't he.
mircea_popescu: which incidentally, since you don't ask, is exactly how love and hate works in this channel.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205248 << been pointed out to death, this, but somehow the 75k fucktards who bought it just glaze over and it flies past them and everyone else knew already so doesn't care. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is just so. but i don't think the fella who wrote the linked piece, would agree
mod6: next they'll sell us a toothbrush that doubles as a jackhammer. won't need to prop up the dental insurance companies any more, no one will have any more cavity laden teeth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i gather the proposition is that these aren't different.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> decimation: and security! << at lesat you can easily rip out the shit you don't want. as opposed to debate weather or not to get rid of the screen.
asciilifeform: decimation: the included fw doesn't display anything useful. just a menu where you can connect to local wifi
asciilifeform: <mod6> It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can. << this is mega-lulzy because ~actual~ soviet gas cans were 100% metal, on the german pattern
mod6: bah, i've lived in one of the hottest places in the world. sure, the cans get bloated a bit. just don't stick your face 1" from the thing when opening the lid. simple.
decimation: they didn't pass a law, they just made it known that making gas cans that vent to the atmosphere wouldn't make them very happy
cazalla: never used an eco can so i can't say, i just use one of these http://i.imgur.com/hcbpjLY.jpg with a spout but when i was doing some chainsaw work, they had these newfangled combi cans and those things are awesome
mod6: i was so mad. the girl didn't want to talk to me for 20 minutes because she said was laughing like i was insane.
mod6: It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can.
jurov: !t m f.mpif
ascii_field: if you have a peculiar drive that won't sit down in the cradle - post photo ?