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MolokoDesk: ok. what happens if someone spends 12 million BTC to a non-stakeholder, someone who wants to use it as general purchasing power.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk that's not an adequate model for things such as gravity.
MolokoDesk: there's a notion called non-entailment. it describes the non-predictability of evolving systems that lose backward-linked information as they evolve and for which there are a large number of adjacent states for which the fitness landscape is unknown or unknowable.
MolokoDesk: ok. think of it as a retainer.
mircea_popescu: why the hell does everyone think everyone's the same person as everyone else.
mircea_popescu: as far as your own case is concerned however, iirc you wanted some bitcents to cover for september, which you got, which is where we're now.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk people in bitcoin are as a rule filthy rich, which means they do whatever the fuck they feel like doing, which is why coming up with things that are actually worth doing is so important and getting people to adhere to trhe highest standards so easy.
dub: aside from possibly a handfull paid to run mp's questionable meta-investment-vehicles I think -assets labour is expected to be free (as in beer)
mats_cd03: so, since out of band key exchange is difficult, most BLE devices can be construed as selectively backdoored.
mats_cd03: fun fact: the Bluetooth Low Energy spec has three key exchange mechanisms. 2/3 "do not provide any passive eavesdropping protection" (as per spec).
RagnarDanneskjol: we discussed this at one point and determined this was the best approach - as alternative to millibtc to be recovered from a multitude of pregenerated addresses
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol better leave it as a later tell ?
mircea_popescu: "freenode group registration is currently suspended, as the group registration process became significantly backlogged to the point that it was not viable to continue taking new registrations. This is an unfortunate side-effect of the combination of the following"
bounce: then you have an arbitrary cookie and might as well use separate payment addresses
RagnarDanneskjol: same as usual
MolokoDesk: as 'security' best practices is mostly don't use certain language constructs, or coding practices that allow exploits from web input.
mircea_popescu: bounce the motherfucking answer! is the reason face to face productivity is better, btw. as expensive travel is, sometimes it's unavoidable, as people will mousy over emails for a year if given the chance
MolokoDesk: anyway, I know how startups are. they do anything to make their "forward-looking statements" remain plausible for as long as possible.
MolokoDesk: ok. I'll look into this. I'm not a security guy and linux admin is not something I do regularly, just as needed for my own projects.
mircea_popescu: use a single inbound address, pay out from it as directed.
gribble: Splitting (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)>; Understanding “Splitting” as a Psychological Term: <http://counsellingresource.com/features/2008/10/28/splitting-as-psychological-term/>; Self-Deception II: Splitting | Psychology Today: <http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hide-and-seek/201203/self-deception- (1 more message)
gribble: Nick 'MolokoDesk', with hostmask 'MolokoDesk!~moloko@cpe-70-117-68-131.austin.res.rr.com', is identified as user 'MolokoDesk', with GPG key id C58B15FA3E19CE9B, key fingerprint 4D4769A7EF6BB23D399DAA7BC58B15FA3E19CE9B, and bitcoin address None
MolokoDesk: so I guess gribble is still in the loop, but not as part of the bundling process.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk okay, what's your gameplan here, do you want to also run this as a going concern ?
MolokoDesk: nah, it puts files into a directory and deals with them as needed.
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm, would like that to be a thing. as its quite useful
MolokoDesk: or a random set of numbers masquerading as an enigma.
assbot: Australias Options as It Seeks to Douse House Prices - Real Time Economics - WSJ
pete_dushenski: Vexual: dub in case you own houses: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/09/30/australias-options-as-it-seeks-to-douse-house-prices/
pete_dushenski: "The app is very good. The concept is also genius. What I don't care for are ma lot of people who aren't nice, or whose language isn't adequate to use when there are minors online. It's almost as if it needed a moderator in some of the chat rooms. Don't take me wrong p, I like the App a lot and that's why I gave it four stars."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as i'm sure cazalla will appreciate, trilema main page now only loads randomly english articles. << I guess Imma have to get reading practice from footnotes nao...
punkman: you just get a snippet and link, credits as usual
mircea_popescu: as i'm sure cazalla will appreciate, trilema main page now only loads randomly english articles.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: then buy the t-shirt << cardanomerch is going to be as popular as sumerian urmerch. but hey, nonzero!
ben_vulpes: (on another topic, i concede that you're right as always about plagiarised commits: the signature only implies responsibility for the contents)
assbot: If you are going to sell 0 day (which I don't recommend), using a convicted felon as a broker seems unnecessarily risky.
ben_vulpes: pretty sure this must be old as i don't really gmail too much
decimation: as I recall assbot was down when the conversation I recall happened - or I could be wrong
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I'd be up for some story authoring, contributing to the cause. The too many chefs problem isn't about having too many people so much as a shitty heirarchy.
kakobrekla: former computer science student and bitcoin entrepreneur from Perth, Australia, told CoinDesk he was traveling in Bali and didn’t think connecting to public Wi-Fi could be a security issue as his bitcoins were stored locally.
xanthyos: it wouldn't be as nice but it would do the trick
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: then tried to sell them OTC using bitpay as broker << mostly because everyone else had more sense than to be involved.
asciilifeform: but, as in 'wasp', one suffices.
asciilifeform: (ask lawyer, see if agrees. as i understand - yes.)
asciilifeform: because in as far as prosecutor goes - he has easy life. i.e. an illegal $item with your name on it
The20YearIRCloud: And then, the 'firearm' as far as the USG and ATF are concerned is the part that contains the serial number
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: (ianal!) but recently i was told that it is, apparently, still legal to cut your own 'receiver' in usa - so long as you write your name on it.
asciilifeform: (americans simply replaced one or two shells' powder with tetryl, resealed container, and left it for enemy to find as a trophy)
mircea_popescu: (not really machine guns as in, three person platform fired band fed. shitty mps)
asciilifeform: that will broker transactions for him, be instantly recognizable as angelic on sight by a counterparty, etc.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how does your counterparty know that your cardano behaves as printed on the tin, and is not a substitute of identical appearance which you built in evil lab ?
thestringpuller: the counterparty is in the room and takes the cardano as part of the deal
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: could the cardano be used as a blackbox key generator? for instance someone once escrow keys that are one time use, the device can sign a message utilizing these generated keys, but they are inevitably destroyed, and no one has true record of the private keys used to sign said message
mircea_popescu: so basically... just as long as wasn't a big shit.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit << ouch :D
nubbins`: kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit
fluffypony: but in doing so they mostly come across as "meh" instead of shocking
mircea_popescu: since you're doing that might as well go the whole nine yards
kakobrekla: i guess i expressed myself wrongly, as atmel indeed prints arm
mircea_popescu: ;;rate PeterL 1 Guy fucked up his glbse assets 3 years ago. This is a fact. That fact may be explained as a smart guy failing in a soup of idiots, and the optimist in me is inclined towards it.
assbot: Hong Kong Protests Swell as Riot Police Withdraw - WSJ
ben_vulpes: http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-protests-swell-as-riot-police-withdraw-1411979074?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories << contrast w/ "occupy"
los_pantalones: then tried to sell them OTC using bitpay as broker
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> what is anathema in the previous context mircea_popescu is taking someone else's commits, signing them and claiming them as your own. << why ?
asciilifeform: as for this entire thread - being pessimist, imho any software project which appears to call for this level of organizational complexity - is a lost cause.
ben_vulpes: what is anathema in the previous context mircea_popescu is taking someone else's commits, signing them and claiming them as your own.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see, all signatories of a thing are joint and several responsible for it.
ben_vulpes: the commit is "here is a diff of thing before i started work today, and thing after i finished this feature." it may include tests, changes to other miscellaneous stuff. it should exist (in my opinion, i may be wrong and might need to be argued out of this) as a statement that "i did this work". this clearly gets hazy when you've got multiple eyes on a screen.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: sure, except it wasn't the entire thing? it was a particular date range, plus as i recall not all transactions?
mircea_popescu: just because the idiots you normally shill at can't read japanese doesn't mean you actually get to propose nonsense in here as fact.
ben_vulpes: until i see commits (ideally signed, but i don't think people were into that sort of thing back then) it's all hot air as far as i can tell
asciilifeform: decimation: i'm not really enamored of the cadr as such
asciilifeform: as if it is possible to have independent existence from usg while being 'the #1 xxx' in u.s. media organs ever.
mircea_popescu: there's going to be little as amusing as "security practices" of the 2010s freeranged interderp.
ben_vulpes: apple's done a decent job on the software jailing, so the phone operating system doesn't rot quite as quickly as its counterparts, so they're forced to release new "operating systems" that consume ever more resources.
Diablo-D3: as much as I hate android, dear god its so much better
Diablo-D3: [10:44:37] <ben_vulpes> an acquaintance of mine was recently derping on his girl's phone, as there was a hilarious loop where her old phone had 16G of stuff and was utterly full, bought a new phone with...16G of storage, connected it to her 'iCloud' account, and watched as the thing immediately filled up and bricked itself
ben_vulpes: an acquaintance of mine was recently derping on his girl's phone, as there was a hilarious loop where her old phone had 16G of stuff and was utterly full, bought a new phone with...16G of storage, connected it to her 'iCloud' account, and watched as the thing immediately filled up and bricked itself
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i bought that domain months ago, figured may as well put it to some use
dignork: i had to look it up, because I couldn't beleive they continue to market it as something that makes sense
mats_cd03: not as thougg he stormed off the job like some clerk, but still. lol.
mircea_popescu: bounce stagnation isn't as bad as you may think.
mircea_popescu: so the latest revision of the dsm crapolade actually lists relationship ~intensity~ as a clinical pathology.
cazalla: Vexual, he comes across as scammy as fuck imo
decimation: as my links show, bullshit artistry runs the us
asciilifeform suffered fair share of employment as undergrad research grunt of various stripes
decimation: it would explain the derping for immigrants too, if one interprets as 'noblesse oblige'
asciilifeform: *count it as
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they could it as however many gates it is made of. and conveniently forget to mention that they can't be rewired using the switching matrix (only a rather smallish number of 'generic' gates can)
bounce: ultimately the APIs it offers need to go since they're badly designed and tricky to use correctly. but you can't exactly do that for a drop-in replacement. this is a low-hanging fruit approach. though the new crew is IMO a better deal than throwing money at the guys that made such a mess of it, as google et al did.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> counting a shifter as 'xxx gates' worth << how the fuck does that work. bit register shifting ?
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> dare to continue as is, you will, sooner or later, find yourself on the list. << this is a valid concern.
asciilifeform: decimation: just as a cockroach in your kitchen means, inescapably, that not far from it there is a seething brown mass of his brothers.
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> 'amazon for shenzhen' < isnt that aliexpress or smth << Basically the Alibabba thing gets its fame as where American small and medium businesses get their entire inventory
asciilifeform: buy as many as you want.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell
asciilifeform: counting a shifter as 'xxx gates' worth
kakobrekla: dare to continue as is, you will, sooner or later, find yourself on the list.
asciilifeform: decimation: at the moment, proven, proud, unrepentant вредители are 'respected faces of the komyooniti', doing as they please.
asciilifeform: 'Frein may see the manhunt as a game, police said, and likely has supplies and a bunker hidden in the woods. Police have found soiled diapers, Serbian cigarettes and other clues that he remains in the area, but are proceeding with caution in part because they believe he may have explosives.'