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asciilifeform: mod6: the temp dir is primo example of an always-ok-to-kill item. i.e. one which the vtron run itself created and would never otherwise exist
asciilifeform: ever owned a rpn calc , ben_vulpes ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: and would have seen stackmachine
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that ben_vulpes had done hard time on jvm
asciilifeform: oh hm
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: questions/comments ? does ch4 make sense to you ?
asciilifeform: and yes this is what asciilifeform does when he wakes up : rereads ffa. all of it.
asciilifeform: Stack(SP) , given as folx haven't been reading attentively, is top of stack.
asciilifeform: !A .0.0*#
asciilifeform: ( obviously was a paste artifact, from '%' case )
asciilifeform: ^ see.
asciilifeform: !A .0.1*#
asciilifeform begins to suspect that ~nobody actually read ch5...
asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch5_egypt#L63 << concretely.
asciilifeform: and it survived nearly a week of asciilifeform rereading whole thing every day.
asciilifeform: ( fixed in ch6 . )
asciilifeform: there's a stray MustNotZero(Stack(SP)); in ffa_calc.
asciilifeform: ^ bug. shame on everybody, for not noticing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !A .1.0*#
asciilifeform: !!up pehbot
asciilifeform: ( have a gensym. there is no excuse ever to be hosed by a previous unsuccessful run. )
asciilifeform: or at the very least not ever use the same absolute tmp path
asciilifeform: nah the tmp thing definitely ought to clean up
asciilifeform: but other unixland utils do not do this, so it is possibly a bridge too far to expect it of this one
asciilifeform: ideally a vtron oughta unhappen, to the extent possible, everything it did to the world, if it gets a ctrl-c
asciilifeform at one time tried to read fare's blog, quickly barfed, d00d has a multitude of socialist-flavoured cockroaches in his crankcase
asciilifeform: ty for making and maintaining this vtron, mod6 . it is a good thing.
asciilifeform is quite out of practice in reading perl
asciilifeform: neato.
asciilifeform: aaa this is the vtron
asciilifeform: sure
asciilifeform: ( if an external proggy is made use of -- oughta check that it exists )
asciilifeform: right, oughta have similar for gpg
asciilifeform: rather than simply ignoring inputs.
asciilifeform: and 'wild chain found: ...' when there's a missing seal
asciilifeform: e.g. 'beheaded chain found: [list of patches]' when there is a patch with non-null parentage but parent is absent
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's main pheature-request for mod6 is to print meaningful eggogs, rather than silent 'new jersey' failure
asciilifeform: aa neato
asciilifeform: and you , mod6 ?
asciilifeform: slowly.
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
asciilifeform: ( see e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557756 thread ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: *claptrap
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : best part is re how evidence remains seekrit, plus the usual claptran in re how e.g. usg not obligated to do anything in return for the confession )
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/o6uML/?raw=true << he confessed, 'pleabargained'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !#s harold martin
asciilifeform: in other noose,
asciilifeform: wainot?
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
asciilifeform: could , in principle, be expanded into a scripting lang.
asciilifeform: that being said, gprbuild ( what ffa uses instead of gnumake ) seems to make very effective use of a kind of interpreted subset of ada
asciilifeform: i dun particularly relish pythonism, but proliferation of 'i wrote it on a napkin, on a train, while drunk' script langs, incl. elisp-style dynamicscope abortions, is imho harmful
asciilifeform: shinohai: which ?
asciilifeform: it comes with the binariolade gnat. if you're using gcc gnat, will have to compile it, a little bit gnarly.
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: ( i recommend to nonemacsists, to try it )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: speaking of nonemacsism, adacore's special-purpose editor, 'gps', is imho pretty decent
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'best thing is never to have programmed at all' or how did socrates put it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=836 << oblig
asciilifeform: but then again why the everlivingfuck would i run with defaults on a ~configurable~ tool that i use 14+ hr/day )
asciilifeform: ( it was born on keyboards which no longer exist )
asciilifeform: emacs per se is nothing to write home about, it is full of gnarly archaicisms , and the default keymapping will, as naggum described, destroy your hands , unless you fix it
asciilifeform: slime lives in emacs.
asciilifeform: the meaningless shitwork ratio, lacking slime, moves from 0% to ~100%
asciilifeform: (not 'emacs' per se, but e.g. slime. you couldn't pay me to write lisp without slime or equivalent, just as not even gulag inmates will dig with hands instead of spade )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed it is.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764882 << i'm quite tempted to give the archive another combing and make a sequel to my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165 item ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: providing 'valuable pheatures' like variable-width font..
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764878 << aaah, the prb of emacs ! it lives on, yes ☝︎
asciilifeform: and given the choice, will take ballpoint pen over feather, and emacs over 'ed'
asciilifeform: and i 'can work' with other editor, just as can write with goose feather and ink also, and can saw with hand saw instead of electric saw... so long as it is understood that everything will take 50x longer.
asciilifeform admits that he does not particularly ~like~ emacs. it simply ended up a schelling point, like linux. but suffers from same type of problems.
asciilifeform: ( it has a superior grandfather, the actual bolix lispm. but no equiv on pc. )
asciilifeform: the only item i use that has no equiv whatsoever outside of emacsland, is slime
asciilifeform: in the same sense as e.g. mircea_popescu is 'crippled from' eating at wallmart .
asciilifeform: not sure how it'd cripple , aside from cultivating the 'unreasonable' expectation of sanity (i.e. extensibility) of editor
asciilifeform: ( though if you intend to do any commonlisp, you're more or less doomed to either use it, or emulate it )
asciilifeform: not errybody uses emacs
asciilifeform: recall the famous 'lions book', was printed in this style
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: there's no way around it. ( some people resort to printing 90 degrees to get more cols.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: printer forces max cols.
asciilifeform: back when i had a horizontal display, most of the time i had it column-split and emacs 'followmode' to flow proggy between them
asciilifeform: ( and to lesser extent, vertical display )
asciilifeform: i suspect the key difference b/w 'x columns or bust' folx and the others, is the habit of using printer
asciilifeform: aa ok
asciilifeform: 'this railroad had this gauge since 1830 and what is this'
asciilifeform: they make a difference, diana_coman , those 4 chars. just like if you suggested to a railroad to take 4cm from the rail gauge.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as a side effect, you get an easily formatted code-box for blogging, as in ffa.
asciilifeform would not insist that a vpatch ~itself~ oughta be 80col, as that would constrain the contents even further, to 76 or so
asciilifeform: reflowolade is for blogposts.
asciilifeform: ought to be printable on a drum printer
asciilifeform: diana_coman: not merely code, but everything that is in a vpatch
asciilifeform brb,meat
asciilifeform: try it
asciilifeform: afaik no known pattern
asciilifeform: ( i can't see from where mircea_popescu extracts this )
asciilifeform: expand?
asciilifeform: would be neat to generate keys in bounded time. and know primality for a fact. BUT i dun have, yet, such a pill.