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mircea_popescu: pools as in, water filled ?
Vexual: as "the real" dread pirate roberts
Vexual: as i se fit disregardless if i remeber anything
mircea_popescu: i guess it's better to end up as the deified avatar of human relations than any alternative fate.
assbot: Krugmania: As Bitcoin's Price Falls, The NYT Pundit Takes A (Very?) Premature Victory Lap - Forbes
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/10/05/krugmania-as-bitcoins-price-falls-the-nyt-pundit-takes-a-very-premature-victory-lap/ <<< no "krugman derps on his times blog, then mp pens a fuck you post and then all hell breaks lose" ? i'd have preferred that approach.
mircea_popescu: if every time a browser asked for a trilema page it actually had to get all the images as base64 i'd have a major problem on my hands.
BingoBoingo: You know it's fitting that Oreilly's animal department sorts Andreas's work as the "Ant Book"
mircea_popescu: i have that distinct feeling experienced by the commander of a relief unit upon taking over at 8am the utterly battered but holding units of the nightguard regiment, surrouinded by a pile of corpses as high as the battlements
assbot: Krugmania: As Bitcoin's Price Falls, The NYT Pundit Takes A (Very?) Premature Victory Lap - Forbes
thickasthieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/10/05/krugmania-as-bitcoins-price-falls-the-nyt-pundit-takes-a-very-premature-victory-lap/
Vexual: i pored a glass of riorja for myself as my steak smoked from the kitchen
thickasthieves: "As I am writing this, BitStamp & BTC-e prices (300) are 3% lower than OKCoin (311) and other Chinese exchanges, indicating users outside of China are driving down the prices, and China is following the price drop. Simple as that!"
thickasthieves: for a while the coinbase price was same as bitstamp, 300
dub: Dimsler: there is such a thing as putting down the shovel
Dimsler: i am pointing out as modern satire
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, i was meerly posting as interest to novice inquirers on market makers
Apocalyptic: Dimsler, you're aware that here wikipedia is not particularly regarded as a worthy source of information ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions << you purist you.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: Did Al Gore invent the internet? << no but if the darpa derps were satoshi-minded they'd probably have referenced some pacific islanders as their inspiration just ot mess with people.
cazalla: ccn as in cryptocoinsnews
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Well, for someone the next few years are going to be rougher than the price as of late
danielpbarron: wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions
decimation: whether a 'wire' counts as cash is up to usg of course
justusranvier: tomorrow is the daniel krawisz reviewing Nick Szebo's "Shelling Out" as a money origin theory
decimation: maybe they can sign up Mr. Ramey as a guest author
mircea_popescu: mpex options never worked as this popularly delusional "engine to turn derpage into monyz/social relevance"
mircea_popescu: maybe i should replace obama, but in such a way as to make the usg work the way you want it to ?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't take it for free, as it happens.
bounce: hmno. initially I'd say as long as it isn't the only way. but you'd get peddlers expecting to be heard for their money. you know, query floods, rageddos, etc.
TheNewDeal: maybe some heavy water as well
mircea_popescu: as it gives motility a major incentive
mircea_popescu: pipes as in beer!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pipe - is everything. (hence my crackpot pushing of dataflow as replacement for von neumann computation, etc)
decimation: TheNewDeal: that's the point, thus the usg is responsible for their actions, as mp just wrote
mircea_popescu: as the obligation to repay btc held on the usg is actually going to increase somewhat faster than the btc itself
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: usg wasted another hundred million... << if they can't power the waterfall with debt, they'll power it with plundered btc (as being done now, at least as suggested by the publicly known facts.)
TheNewDeal: he's pestering me as well
mircea_popescu: guy works as a stupid sifter that's not really dragging up that much stupid.
TheNewDeal: and as quickly as the wall appeared, its gone
mircea_popescu: ohohohoho notrly. while the abject selfdebasing of the highschool priss is exactly of zero practical weight, as there are more pleasant girls and better trained, so one'd never seriously use her for a direct purpose,
mircea_popescu: is this some sort of braindamged feminism run amok where they imagine that if they "microagress" the patriarchy by discussing thiel as if he were some made-to-fuck-once-and-discard popstarlet something's gonna happen ?
mircea_popescu: matrix ? nah. the us anti-intellectualism fully at work : technology as the magic of the evil, desocialised, psychopathic dr evil.
mircea_popescu: can be used in pm with assbot as well.
jurov: oh they're liquidating as i'm writing...lemme see
[]bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3827.19563163 BTC. Current weight: 39,533.
asciilifeform: get back into << as for me, i was never in
decimation: when I was living in maryland it struck me as very odd about how powerful the local counties were
decimation: as I recall it was also a couple $$ per shell
decimation: ben_vulpes: single-piece collars as in no hinge?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.) << usg employees are notoriously immune to "mistakes" on their filings.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can't say as i know why your cutoff tool's doing that to the piece. the mark looks like an overheating of either workpiece or cutting tool, but the geometry indicates that it was spiraling in on a single pass.
mircea_popescu: not really as clear cut i dun thin
decimation: ah, well that happened after the above Mr. Silva fired the latina with moxie: "In the statement the Fed sent us last week, they say, quote, “The decision to terminate Ms. Segarra’s employment with the New York Fed was based entirely on performance grounds, not because she raised concerns as a member of an examination team about any institution.” In the spring, a judge threw Carmen’s suit out saying the law Carmen sued the Fed
asciilifeform: (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.)
asciilifeform suspects that, as with soviet bureaucrats, salary is only small part of the compensation package.
decimation: "Mike Silva: My own personal thinking right now is that we’re looking at a transaction that’s legal but shady. I want to put a big shot across their bow on that. Poking at it, maybe we find something even shadier than we already know. So let’s poke at this thing, let’s poke at it with our usual poker faces, you know. I’d like these guys to come away from this meeting confused as to what we think about it. I want to keep
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: ah well, see it as a perk of the faith people have in your ability to deliver.
mircea_popescu: if not ima just ul the 86s thing as is.
mircea_popescu: contorted fucking reasoning, such as, "mp said once that the endgame for bitcoin is this. now, let's maintain that figure but pretend like mp wasn't talking about btc, but about geese. so then a goose should be 300k usd per, and since it's not, clearly iron nails are taking up some of that market"
The20YearIRCloud: guess i don't understand how a large-ish business that takes BTC and runs into the asme cashout problems as us could operate with it
ninjashogun: Incidentally if it is on-topic here I am curious about the opinion of people here about 1) cause of BTC price depression 2) whether BTC price will rebound. Where will the buy pressure come from, given that there are other crypto currencies as well?
ninjashogun: jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder, not a security expert per se (besides a good theoretical understanding and some practical reading same as avialable to everyone here.) Not an xorg expert!
mircea_popescu: o wait, i forgot, the wash trading sort of huge. a trillion just as long as it's done in 100 increments. nm me.
kakobrekla: tobacco water is used as pesticide
mircea_popescu: but as a total aside : the quality of your arguments exceeds the quality of your expression, significantly. that means you're smarter than you're read, which is unfortunate. you definitely should read up on and master all that "preppy 101 vocabulary", it's not the waste of time inept pseudo-teachers and pretend-authorities have made it seem.
mircea_popescu: he proceeded from basic principle. and he, and a lot of other people, couldn't give less of a shit as to what the ultimate implications are.
mircea_popescu: ok. so then. satoshi didn't proceed towards this goal or that goal, as presumed by this or that purpose-built theory of economics.
mircea_popescu: looky here. all this would make a lot more sense to you if you read the trilema explanation as to the difference of acting from a cause from acting towards a purpose.
mircea_popescu: mkay so the situation is that you have a btc-e account and work as a broker, but when i asked you the first time you figured it's a good moment to insert a pretense of significant holdings you don't actually hold, and in doing so inadvertently blew to bits your earlier description of your actual activity, which was up to that point correct.
Dimsler: as is it was an overall generalization of pumping bitcoins to future buyers
Dimsler: it has nothing to do with my arbitraging that i do as a side buisness
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as you have a stash, you already took a form of exposure.
mircea_popescu: so i gather you have a btc-e account and work as a broker ?
mircea_popescu: "Do you accept any alternate forms of payment such as Debit/Credit Cards?" that part is pretty win.
mircea_popescu: Dear participants of the BTC-e.com The cases of hacking accounts with the use of viruses disguised as trade bots, trading platform, and also subscription for mailout, from which you may catch a virus if you follow a link in it, became more frequent.
mircea_popescu: the next pass, if fucking sponsored by the UN, if it has a special international institution created, won't get as far.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves not as much as a performance sport. more like an erryday activity.
mircea_popescu: well that depends. if he's actually good rather than just faking it well (by doing the moves he can do in succession so as to distract from the narrowness)
mircea_popescu: that cycle depends on successfully misrepresenting itself as a legitimate government to the producers, and sufficiently empowering the parasites as to maintain it in power.
dub: theres no such thing as democracy in practise, only americancy
Vexual: well i can feel like im part of something bigger with my mind as well as my input
mircea_popescu: lol. as if.
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2014 09:30:07; cazalla: i went to a walk in medical centre with issues about my neck as I couldn't get an appointment at my usual GP, the GP at the walk in just assumed I was after pain meds and wrote a script for endone (oxycodone) without any hesitation to get me the fuck out of there
mircea_popescu: jesus these people derping about codeine. here's a fun fact : as a growing tyke in soviet romania, mp like any other chitlins was administered phosphoric codeine freely for coughs.
mircea_popescu: the spec is about as stupid as a hardware spec could be.
decimation: asciilifeform: after working closely with usb, do you see it as an evil spec?
assbot: Logged on 02-08-2014 17:42:01; asciilifeform: dignork: as i pointed out ages ago to ninjaspamgun, it is the responsibility of operating system to enumerate, e.g. only usb dildo on a given port, and not keyboard or whatnot
asciilifeform read 'bitcoin' and 'dekulakization' as 'bukkakization' - eyes tired, possibly should sleep
mircea_popescu: (insmuch as the most you could do, cca 2010 or before, was to move them into... another cage, worse made)
asciilifeform: decimation: bezzlars work great because they devalue just as well at the bottom of the sea, or in a shoebox entombed in drywall ceiling, etc
decimation: the rule of thumb is that you pay at least as much this year as the previous
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty. << more like, give patient something to do with his time.
decimation: asciilifeform: these days the double tax isn't as bad because the mortgage interest rates are low
decimation: my company hires an old woman to assemble circuit boards, we pay her as an independent contractor. apparently the state has been harassing the company because the state presumes that her 'independent contract' is really an employment contract
asciilifeform: since tax authorities operate as if they did not know automagically, in real time, who these are - no pre-tax
asciilifeform: so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty.
mircea_popescu: "It is NOT impossible to have such an enormous (gigantic) ginormous rise in prices - eg from $300 to $10k; however, the lower that BTC prices go, the more difficult it becomes to imagine such an upward BTC price explosion.... .. such as 30x..."
Duffer1: business as usual
mircea_popescu: also known as the "full faith and credit of the united states government" scam.