asciilifeform: ^ was actually the 1st nontrivial proggy asciilifeform wrote in ada, just prior to picking up ffa
asciilifeform: ^ 1 example of db job where traditional sqlistic db (which presumes need for inexpensive mutability and complex queries) aint appropriate
asciilifeform looks sadly at his O(1) indexer for bitcoin , which could be driven into battlefield if only found fix for that gnat bugola
asciilifeform: after phuctor, where dataset is 100+GB , puzzlers like log search felt comparatively painless
asciilifeform: in fact did. and iirc trinque et al also prodded.
asciilifeform when 1st tuned in, eschewed dbism, spat. today has shelf of dead tree even on subj. and in fact ate most of it.
asciilifeform: i rather like being able to use structured queries on the thing by hand, tho
asciilifeform: tbf could actually work for a rather long time -- the collective mass of the 6 chans logged by snsabot is atm <100MB
asciilifeform: iirc phf didn't bother with indexing, simply kept all of log in memory and did equiv. of grep. but this only scales to a point.
asciilifeform: ( the <1s search folx are accustomed to, aint happening with straight grepism )
asciilifeform: could. but then search is complicated, you do want to index the text
asciilifeform: lobbes: this would decouple entirely bot from db. but i left it alone, preferring to get working variant out the door asap
asciilifeform: lobbes: i have a (not mature) variant of the bot, where all sqlism is removed, and when encounters new line it makes a 'post' req to a set url (that answers only on localhost) on the other end, instead of writing to db
asciilifeform: lobbes: oughta be quite trivial. ( early phuctor sat on sqlite )
asciilifeform: right. ( as i understand one couldn't actually bot in php , it's made to run in bursts )
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, tho, mine is actually faster, in re page generation, than a wp-based item would be; but imho oughta have ~different~ variants of logtron, not only 1 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if trinque wants in -- i'm entirely in favour . fella currently runs a meatspace biz, in 1 of the most hostile environments imaginable, and as i understand -- successfully
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and remember that you did not end up with the work by happenstance, but because yer the 1 with all of the necessary skill. but you WILL have to avoid turning into mod6 , or no amt of expert will be able to help.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mod6 , near as i can tell, is incapacitated. and i'm essentially prisoner. yer the current chair.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find what has to be done re the other q also (what is eating pipe??)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more like 'if colonel aint answering, major will have to act on own position w/out answer!'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and remember that yer the current chairman. dun let yerself get incapacitated, asciilifeform is not expert in chairmaning , but someone has to actually fucking steer the thing, or we're sunk, irons or no irons
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and ffs , let's engage trinque immediately. agree on reasonable commission with him, if he wants one. and find what he's willing to do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr my own measurements are wildly variant, i suspect the 3 ( 4? ) trb nodes are bursting and eating pipe
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: .388s for what mass of pg ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i assume you read log, and did notice that e.g. mircea_popescu was getting 10 kB (!) / sec !!
asciilifeform: i.e. it WILL have to be widened, and also possible that the 'all you can eat' model of divvying it up is not practical.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i also would like to find what it'd cost to widen the pipe. AND how much currently is eaten, and by whom. i have dark suspicion currently that we're dangerously low on pipe.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo unless you have a specific objection , i'ma go with 2x opteron (as already specced!) + 6x rk + 4x apu 1 . ( despite lack of adult gnat for rk , it continues to sell, really is the closest thing we have to an in-demand item )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930585 << and yes we need erry possible expertise! BingoBoingo yer 1st q for trinque oughta have been 'what'll it cost' . this being said, we're flat outta what to sell, it is impermissible to delay any longer the irons !
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wat is this.. it would seem that trinque is offering his services ? why the immediate refusal? find out what he would like in recompense, and what offers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 2 'archived' links are identical
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can think of a few riotously braindamaged proggies atm (e.g. 'sshd', where author somehow thought it acceptable to generate host key at boot ; and tcp stack, where seq #'s )
asciilifeform: and those by all rights oughta get marsaglia or similar penny 'entropy'. crypto-battlefield proggies have no biz making an appearance at boot time or in absence of init'd FG .
asciilifeform: strikes me as nuttery that e.g. nic driver, might not only want entropy, but ~in boot~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for what need entropy ( or even pseudo-entropy ) during boot ?
asciilifeform: btw it remains unclear to asciilifeform , why entropy would be wanted ~during boot~ at all
asciilifeform: ftr imho a box that wants FG ~during~ boot, oughta have it on an actual rs232 port -- these get init'd very simply quite early during boot
asciilifeform: ( it's superficially appealing, but almost certain to get bogged down in particulars of usb2serial dongles, as well as the gnarly issue of actually identifying FG from other serial devices -- linux offers 0 hard guarantee of initialization order for serial gadgets )
asciilifeform: no need, as i understand, to actually read FG 'in kernel'
asciilifeform: i was actually somewhat surprised when saw mircea_popescu undertake 'digest tlp' . it seems rather similar to the work of gathering usable scrap metal from chernobyl.
asciilifeform gets already 1000x the digestible dose , purely from ^ and from seepage via qntra
asciilifeform on occasion ~actually~ does read it. well, not usually the daily maculature per se (try an' find it) but e.g. recently read a sovok-pov history of rome. entertaining.
asciilifeform: it'd be rather like trying to hire pigeons to clean a statue.
asciilifeform: just possibly -- on a 'pre-1993' net , i.e. fulla actual people, this would not be. but on current -- so
asciilifeform recalls the ' cr50 bounty ' thrd. mircea_popescu made very persuasive arg re 'takes >= work to adjudicate contest as to do the actual job' .
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930304 << possibly mircea_popescu won't believe that it is possible when doing 25yrs in usaschwitz, but : asciilifeform never saw 'seinfeld' . should i ? ( and, will turn into vegetable immediately ?! ) iirc it was 1 of those ameri-'comedians' where 0 actual humour, and audience had to be 'reminded to laugh' via taped laffs ?
asciilifeform: even the ~reddit~ people got this right, iirc. in '07, no less.
asciilifeform if were writing a new blogotron, would have the comment box eat same syntax as here, with the square brackets. who the hell needs raw htm in comments other than for linkage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho then comment box oughta have a notation e.g. 'dun fughet to < >' etc
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930405 << his comment box eats less-than/greater-than signs as 'unclosed htm tags'. which i also observed on mircea_popescu's www, i think it is ancient wp bug (of the 'no one wants to fix' sort, it'd require a 2-pass parser)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930301 << entirely possible that fella comes back to life and walks in with genesis of bot, vpatch viewer, cleaned-up vdiffism, etc. and i'ma be pleasantly surprised. but would not bet money or hold breath to wait for it.
asciilifeform: spyked: mine is <400ln , incl. all postgresisms. and doesn't use 'irc lib', notice.
