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mircea_popescu: aside of which, friday some derp was going on about what "his life is dedicated
to" and in
the crowd hysteria i
told em my life is dedicated
to excluding people.
mircea_popescu: the extreme power of
this idea is evidenced by how effectual it is even when poorly implemented.
mircea_popescu: once you get
the proper voice model implemented, forgeddaboutit
mircea_popescu: and absolutely NEVER allow any derps on it. stick
to
the original plan with
the original internet, no fucking undergrads.
mircea_popescu: turn off all other
traffic, have servers in
their own, better world.
mircea_popescu: if cardano wasn't so woefully delayed exploring
this in practice'd be almost
tempting.
mircea_popescu: in short,
the more i
think about it
the more im inclined
to rather see
the
telcos win
the internet war, adn google lose it
mircea_popescu: that is
the definition of design : rules independent of events.
mircea_popescu: they only get away with it because a flaw in
the design.
mircea_popescu: it's a situation exactly identical
to "pay for software" and software market in general.
mircea_popescu: because
teleport bits exists, putting undue down pressure on all prices.
mircea_popescu: that is what im saying.
to get a packet
there, you need more
than one
mircea_popescu: right, which goes
through
thermodynamic dissipation aka friction.
mircea_popescu: exactly for
the reason you mention : who can afford or wants
to give anyone free
traffic ?
mircea_popescu: as long as friction is baked in,
the ddos problem fundamentally doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: you always get less
than what you put in.
this is
the chief principle
that makes
the world endure
BingoBoingo: Plenty of derps masterbate
to
the idea of
tits without experiencing or understanding
them
mircea_popescu: it was made by idiots who do not understand what
trade even is.
mircea_popescu: every anything used in an amplification attack meets
the criteria.
mircea_popescu: it's like a beautifully drawn mmorpg made by blizzard. you KNOW
the economy will be broken
to all shit.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the entire world made by derps unaware of game
theory needs
to be redone.
ben_vulpes: once upon a
time, computers were such
that children could actually reason about
them.
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2014 16:32:51; asciilifeform: ddos <<
there will come
the day when folks will remember
the 'route
to anybody who asks first-come-first-serve' internet - with disgust.
mircea_popescu: "lets make computers fun" ; "you know, for kids" and "anyone can do
this". fuck
that.
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2014 17:09:27; asciilifeform: where every packet knows who paid for it <<
those who imagine a wot-routing based net as a rent-seekers' paradise are mistaken. it is
today's net
that is a rent-seeker's paradise, where folks who cannot abide ddos must buy bandwidth in vast excess of
their normal needs
mircea_popescu: mullenweg and
the core of imbeciles "working" at wordpress go around claiming
they program computers
mircea_popescu: you want
the
time ? ask
twice.
the server answers each request pair once, in
the order of descending delta intervals.
mircea_popescu: and in connectionless environments such as ntp or dns even, it would cost nothing
to require 2
tits for every
tat.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
TO
THIS DAY wordpress will go check 1.1.1.1 because 2.2.2.2 said so.
mircea_popescu: and
to not send packets
to X
that were asked for by Y.
mircea_popescu: the solution is
to not send 500 packets in response
to one
mircea_popescu: " IP addresses
that were not assigned
to
the device which is sending
them."
mircea_popescu: not
trivial
to know where a packet enters
tho.
they do have
to
traverse it anyway
mircea_popescu: there IS something wrong
to
treating packets like fucking popcorn.
mircea_popescu: the world would be so much better if all
the gmaxwells of
this world were never
taught
to read.
cazalla: and it's
that bullshit law which enables mohammed
to hold down a chocolate shop for almost 24 hours..
the gov actually enabled him
to do better
than he could if
the playing field was level
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cazalla: if
the law permitted us
to carry weapons, would've ended much sooner as well
cazalla: decimation,
they saved
themselves, nearly all escaped before
the cops even went in
decimation: so I guess
the democratic police in sydney nearly succeeded in saving all
the hostages
decimation: asciilifeform:
that internet-wide scanner is neat
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: noone for values such
that of people who claim
to have, finding actual readers is still a hard problem. Not an actual 0.
undata: not
that I dispute ubuntu being a steaming pile
undata: mircea_popescu:
there's "ionice" which might help
those cases
BingoBoingo: adlai: Everyone
talks about Knuth, but no one reads Knuth.
adlai: why does convert need 5G ram
to build a 4M file. somebody didn't read knuth?
adlai tries with convert, let's see how bad
the RAMrape gets
BingoBoingo: I really
think it is irresponsible
the dude didn't bring some serious stimulants with him. I mean
the police get
to have shift changes.
mircea_popescu: "i was gonna do
thinks with my gun... but
then i got
tired...
then i got
tired... and fell asleep"
adlai: can
this ffmpex
thing make gifs
mircea_popescu: "The #4890 pull-req in question had no ACKs at all, and only
two untested utACKS, which I find worrying for something
that made significant consensus critical code changes." via BingoBoingo