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assbot: No. It is a disgusting channel that is filled with white men who seriously advoc... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1CRONDI )
mircea_popescu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8795280 << i lol'd but somehow dun think it's her
mircea_popescu: hey there asseteers!
gribble: User 'cazalla', with keyid 21B9818A468F4AD0, fingerprint FD9FB3F73B5AE8499A02F0C521B9818A468F4AD0, and bitcoin address 1cKiW19Jc2aQ2sdKGkkEkGnbVZT8kKLAK, registered on Wed Feb 26 07:21:04 2014, last authed on Tue Dec 2 16:05:59 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=cazalla . Currently not authenticated.
asciilifeform: ^ the fundamental theorem of the media apparat.
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
thestringpuller: "There is one company/cryptocurrency/platform which claims to occupy an interesting space between Bitcoin and altcoins, between DC and AC: Stellar, backed by Stripe. Its CTO, one Jed McCaleb, created Mt. Gox, the first big Bitcoin exchange (and sold it to Mark Karpelès long before Mt. Gox’s notorious implosion began.) He then created Ripple–which, he says curtly, “didn’t work out“–before moving to Stellar to “do
dignork: thestringpuller: "repeatoffender" keyword in their game, is a nice touch of insanity :)
jurov: "I am sorry that I had such a bad experience with your community but I am being extremely negatively affected as a result." lolwut
scoopbot: New post on The Whet by han@thewhet: http://thewhet.net/2014/how-to-blame-others-and-entertain-people/ ☟︎
thestringpuller: is cazalla awake? or did the merriment wear him down already?
dignork: BingoBoingo: even though giving private key is a stupid way to do it (you can prove the same by signature), normally I wouldn't care about leaked privkey, which ideally was used only once. Unless the key is also used for gribble, but then, who would use non-random key for grubble auth. Where do you see the problem?
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BingoBoingo: Yeah, almost sucks as much as the Schilbach wallet which I can not yet evaluate
cazalla: i vaguely remember clams being discussed before but did not know finer details until decided to check just-dice out again
BingoBoingo: cazalla: And now you know that scheme's greatest retardation
cazalla: the fuck is this clams bullshit on just-dice, they really expect i will send them btc private key to claim clams?
RagnarDanneskjol: so far so good - its beach weather this week, so not quite wintery. you?
BingoBoingo: OMG I never new startup vultures wer so self promoting on twitter https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/548014069492752384
joecool: o that looks quality
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BingoBoingo: joecool: Well, considering the entire premise of an android phone is carrying around a demilitarized zone between yourself and google sure.
joecool: BingoBoingo: that's a feature
BingoBoingo: I have no BTC on there at the moment. I can't even create a backup of my wallet file.
xanthyos: lot of the negative reviews refer to the receive address changing without their control
xanthyos: i thought none of the android app wallets were safe. are you just testing it with a small amount?
BingoBoingo: So I apparently have an Android phone, but it is a shitty prepaid burner deal which is a plus. On the downside I am just now discovering all of the ways the Schildbach wallet sucks.
Adlai: If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
decimation: I guess pretty paranoid is the answer ;(
Adlai: are we still entertaining the notion that saffron reads HN, not just on the front page, but on the Ask HN page - but didn't have an HN account until now?
ben_vulpes: follow BingoBoingo's link? read logs? i don't know that she did/does either.
decimation: otherwise, we are to believe that she trolls low-rated HN stories?
decimation: if she actually 'is disgusted with irc', why would she continue to read the logs and follow bingo's link?
decimation: actually, there's very good reason to think it isn't her
decimation: it would be amusing if that draws in a crowd though (the HN thread)
Adlai: lol then there is zero reason to believe it's really her
ben_vulpes: how paranoid shall we get tonight?
decimation: but given that it was just created (the account) it could have easily been an account that was created by some spamming hobo who reads the logs
Adlai: the problem, and perfection, of irc is that it's just a bunch of words
ben_vulpes: could just be pandering to another audience
decimation: I guess we know what she thinks about her customers
ben_vulpes: "seriously advocate for slavery" << gosh, respect a woman's right to live in whatever kind of sin she wants!
decimation: it's not entirely a surprise, this
assbot: No. It is a disgusting channel that is filled with white men who seriously advoc... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rjgBj2 )
decimation: anyway, the pressure to not-lose would be much greater than the pressure to win-big in such a world
decimation: I'm thinking of bitcoin, but any currency that is finite would suffice
decimation: but as asciilifeform has pointed out, the bezzlars (usg) control the entire silicon process stack
decimation: new bitcoins can't be printed up to ensure the solvency of the 'investor class'
decimation: presumably in a world funded primarily by investors actual capitol instead of made-up dollars, the loss of a bitcoin on an idiotic scheme is going to be a loss forever
decimation: this is something that underlies my yearning for 'hard currency': the idea that a hard currency would make defecting in this manner much less profitable
Adlai: on the other hand, proper cooperation strategies could yield a strong enough ecosystem that it could survive defections of individual entities without the entire cooperative system collapsing
decimation: whoever is willing to 'cooperate' and produce hardware/software that actually serves only the customer, will be eaten both those who are willing to defect for a cheap buck
decimation: (I've been reading that slatestarcodex link)
decimation: maybe 'honest' silicon valley is impossible, in the same way that it's impossible for the two prisoners to coorperate, even if it is in their best interests
TheNewDeal: soso anyone interested in this S&P closing quarter 4?
Adlai: given sufficient raw materials and chuck moore replicants, it should be possible to build a stack clean in both hard- and software.
asciilifeform: ah that's easy.
asciilifeform: who does Adlai think knows the answer to this ?
Adlai: so what's the roadmap for liberating honest silicon's ability to self-reproduce from the monkeys that are trying to choke it down?
thestringpuller: wow that escalated quickly
decimation: 'give us stuff in exchange for these really valuable promises to pay bezzlars!'
decimation: stooges for that too
asciilifeform: the physical components of a mega-chumpatron have to be made somewhere.
decimation: they make & implement usg policy, and allow stooges to stand in front of the microphones to take the heat
decimation: and they are largely powered by academic types who are 'do-ocracy' types
asciilifeform: it's the qualcomms.
asciilifeform: the actual nervous system of usg is not the muppets with the microphones
decimation: except they achieved lock-in by getting usg to enforce their comms standard & getting the cell phone ownership to agree
asciilifeform: presently that's usg.
asciilifeform: the freedom of the semiconductor belongs - not! to the fellow with the factory - but the one who controlls the entire process stack
decimation: asciilifeform: this (arm's) was almost exactly the same business model as qualcomm's
asciilifeform: the old saw about 'freedom of the press' belonging to the fellow with the press;
decimation: yet there's just enough 'freedom' to make the little people think that they actually control something
decimation: yes, there is much wisdom here. the electronics market consists nearly entirely of lock-in, either by complexity, inertia, or usg enforcement (patents, etc)
asciilifeform: (an undergrad can throw a mips-compatible fpga core together in a day)
asciilifeform: arm is sufficiently complex that folks were stuck licensing it verbatim, rather than reimplementing
decimation: plus they regularly redo the entire instruction set
asciilifeform: (arm makes a mockery of the whole risc concept, hundreds of weird instructions with a multitude of modifier bits, hilariously varies addressing mechanisms, etc)
asciilifeform: despite being a steaming crock of shit compared to mips
asciilifeform: every day i wonder why the 'arm' architecture so thoroughly beat 'mips' (closest competitor in the 'risc' world) in the markets ☟︎☟︎
decimation: by zeks, who work for companies whose entire business model consists of locking people into their bullshit by whatever means
asciilifeform: virtually every little gibblet of the entire stack
decimation: complexity is intentional, to lock everybody in
asciilifeform: ever wonder whence we got the crock of shit that is usb ?
asciilifeform: i'll point out that the complexity of the designs, which makes straight plagiarism so irresistible to the asians, doesn't happen in a vacuum.
decimation: if the world were reversed and china was designing stuff for us foundries to stamp out, it would certainly be the case that us folks would try to do it themselves
asciilifeform: for the work to actually be his own, non-plagiarized? in the confucian world, this is actually an anti-value
decimation: from his point of view, he has a design team of usg zeks to work for him?
asciilifeform: what should he want on top of this ?
asciilifeform: they vibrate merrily, customers happy, the dough rolls in
asciilifeform: he gets paid to sell, e.g., electric dildoes with programmable waveforms.
decimation: I guess he's getting paid to hustle for his usg masters
asciilifeform: because - in all but one out of thousand cases - why???
asciilifeform: see the siberian pipeline incident.
asciilifeform: point is that 'w4r3z dangle' is a time-honoured usg tactic.
decimation: if you pay $mils per year, people know who the hell you are
asciilifeform: but that also isn't the point
decimation: yeah but how are you going to walk into a foundry with your warez design?
asciilifeform: and the winblows.
asciilifeform: point is the control.