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ben_vulpes: dag. looks like
this irc
thinger's getting fragile.
ascii_modem: with
them, it is quite
the same as using 'evil' modern silicon
ascii_modem: folks who bring up fpga as a solution - straight
to ebay, pick up a board, see if you can bake so much as an i386 compatible, with at least
the original's performance, -without-
the fpga vendor's closed libraries
☟︎ decimation: third choice: make own hardware using fpgas (yes, I remember past fpga
threads)
ascii_modem: drivers << presently
the open source folks have
two choices - open mouth and wait for rain, in
the sahara; or cut enemy
throat and drink up.
adlai: btce still leading
the light brigade
cazalla: thestringpuller, cbf
this morning, didn't get
to bed
till 4am and i'm still a bit
tired
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 17:47:10; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: But...
the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology... << i agree. it is.
ascii_modem: the audience can't do jack shit
to bring sane silicon into being. but it can actively and maximally destructively piss on 'intellectual property' and related usg crown privilege.
decimation: adlai: you can see how it would be much more difficult for usg
to actually coordinate which secrets are 'released' and which ones are 'secret'
ascii_modem: decimation: he was entirely wrong about
the -why- pointless
decimation: w.r.t.
to
the link you posted about
the guy warning not
to reverse engineer drivers, his point about
the pointlessness of
the endeavor seems well-founded
adlai: my favorite nonsense was an internal usg email during
the snowden leaks, advising employees not
to read
the leaked document on unclassified workstations lacking necessary clearance
to view
the doc
ascii_modem: i'll point out
that it is not hard at all
to crap out however much 'illegal1111!' code you want, anywhere on planet, at no risk
to your health
decimation: agreed, but
to shift
to your point about code - where?
decimation: ascii_modem: in
the earlier case of recording, my answer is: yes, you probably ought
to have an iranian lawyer (or a plan
to get one) if you find yourself physically in iran
ascii_modem: 'don't read it, you'll be
tainted for life and can never be a legit open source dev again'
ascii_modem: linked article was similar
to a
turd
that made
the rounds back when w2k source leake
ascii_modem: but with respecting
tyrants who propose
to say
that writing some code is permissible , other kinds - not
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:52:28; ascii_modem: if you're an 'open source' whateverthefux, and you give a fuck
that your code 'is legal' - just surrender
to jail now. save
the bother.
ascii_modem: i am quite certain
that, e.g., iran, has even more interesting laws. with even stiffer punishments for disobedience. should we all hire iranian lawyers, avoid ending up on heads-off ?
ascii_modem: florida law re: recording scamz0rz << see earlier
thread re: correct attitude
to law.
adlai: whether
the idea of recording
the
talk is sufficiently incepted in
the public's mind
that several random audience members are likely
to have recorded - is another matter
adlai: the easy way
to prevent
that is just not
to record anything myself
decimation: my only problem is
that it seems somewhat dangerous
decimation: ben_vulpes: do you fly gliders?
that's a neat hobby
decimation: yes, but my point is
that if a policeman is so inclined, he may
throw you in jail, charge you, and you get
to make
these kinds of arguments
to a local prosecutor and
then maybe a judge
adlai: good
thing
that
the exception covers all conversations where you could be overheard, rather
than just "public meetings"
decimation: that's probably reasonable, but other conversations would not be covered under
the same exception
adlai: moe levin (conference organizer) has already gone on
the public record saying
that
talks and Q&A sessions will be recorded and recordings subsequently uploaded, further eroding whatever "reasonable expectation of privacy" could be claimed
decimation: for instance, what do you
think "public meeting" means?
decimation: adlai: us law has a funny way of being misinterpreted by
those
to whom it would advantage
adlai: "Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when
the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in
the conversation, such as when
they are engaged in conversation in a public place where
they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record
these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking
the law." <- pretty sure
that covers anything
decimation: such a law is obviously intended
to protect criminals (politicians, bureaucrats)
adlai: er
that was supposed
to be a :)
adlai: but
thanks for
the heads up ):
adlai: ok, i'll make sure
to plug my ears before entering
the conference grounds
adlai: january's lemons have
taken
the form of btcmiami
tickets, flights included. shouldn't be
too big a request from
the benefactor
to spend a few hours snooping around
the shillcoin booth/talks
cazalla: adlai: if nothing else, it should at least be entertaining
to see all
the scammers up close, something
to
tell
the metaphorical grandkids <<< if you can remember
their name
that long but doubt it
decimation: adlai:
there seems
to be a long history of people coming up with good ideas in lisp, and
then spending
the rest of
their lives
trying
to get other languages
to support small pieces of said idea
cazalla: adlai: would qntra be interested in coverage of garza @ btcmiami? <<< i wouldn't ask of you
to waste your
time doing
that, it is already established he is a liar and a bad one at
that, no point covering a debate of which lies can be wormed out of
decimation: basically it's just monkey-patching classes with bits of code
that can be maintained in one spot
adlai: kinda like championing OO, where appropriate, as a special case of closures, assuming your language supports
the latter
adlai: ... as a
trivial extension when your language has a MOP
decimation: it seems
that
the main author has gone on
to champion 'aspect oriented programming'
decimation: ascii_modem: did some reading about
the metaobject protocol
cazalla: if memory serves, BingoBoingo seemed
to
think either side could be bullshitting
ascii_modem: i happen
to own a lispm. and it is (still) for sale.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_modem> [] lispm on
the block , yes << what does
this mean?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] well done mod6 an ben_vulpes << pshaw i'm entirely
tangent; mod6 does all
the heavy lifting.
ben_vulpes: i don't get it either, ascii_modem. who
takes drugs into planes in plainly labled "DRUGS" canisters?
joecool: it's in #bitcoin-otc currently handling auth
there
ascii_modem: i don't comprehend
this "have
to decrypt disk" bs. <<< again we can apply above principle. everybody complaining about
the disk arse search - stop imagining
that you have 'rights' and start apprehending
the fact
that you are being pursued by maniacs who will eventually like
to
turn you into a lampshade.
ascii_modem: punkman: mpeg2 license key <<< afaik -all- extant arm cpu include sub-cores running mystery
turds, such as
that one.
ascii_modem: if you're an 'open source' whateverthefux, and you give a fuck
that your code 'is legal' - just surrender
to jail now. save
the bother.
☟︎ ascii_modem: fiat law apparatus is not an authority
to be respected, but a military enemy
that wants
to render you for your body fat and deserves
the same respect
that dog owes dogcatcher, or jew -
the nazi polizei
ascii_modem: 'plagiarism' may be a 'sin of
the flesh', but plagiarists exist just
the same as 'wankers' exist.
ascii_modem: mircea_popescu:asciilifeform:
the confucian kingdoms breathe plagiarism like air. <<< "plagiarism", much like "sins of
the flesh", is a construction intended
to work as a
tool for a very peculiar purpose. <<< i spent years working with folks some of whom fit
the pattern: 'yes i got phd for washing glassware for advisor, who let me crib, who in
turn cribbed from dr xxxxx himself, of
the academy of
turdiences'
ascii_modem: asciilifeform wait, so your SO is a black girl ? <<< nein. but from usa. customized
though.
adlai: ascii_modem: btw lispm still on
the block?
adlai: btc swaps are at an all
time high, even if we go lower afterwards, somebody is bound
to get hurt by
the inevitable bounces on
the way
BingoBoingo: adlai> bitfinex seeking out new lows! << Wouldn't be surprised at all of
this Bitfinex scouting new lows is
them dying.
adlai: if nothing else, it should at least be entertaining
to see all
the scammers up close, something
to
tell
the metaphorical grandkids
adlai is FoaFs with moe, might be introduced at
the conference
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 20:21:44; mircea_popescu: (i mean, prior
to becoming bitpay ceo)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: it may be unfair
to
tar all work done since satoshi with
the power rangers brush. <<<
term only came of age last year.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: but parents who found out
that
their kids had been disciplined at school often disciplined
the kid again at home << pretty much yes.
mircea_popescu: decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays
them)
to force a large percentage of
the upper-crust customer-base
to have an amex card in
their wallet << pretty much how
that racket goes yes.
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes:
translate
the significance of
this for
the aerodynamically innocent ? << less about
the aerodynamic stuff; glider guys are wealthy business owners in yacht/building fabrication (among others businesses) and
they're complaining about 5% increase in cost of materials everywhere
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: it's funny how Gavin is all "I want bitcoin
to compete with Visa/Mastercard", when anyone in Payment Processing knows
those systems are seriously nigga rigged as is. << nobody expects gavin
to say something sensible anymore
than
they'd expect ronald mcdonald
to.