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mp_en_viaje: i'm not even proposing a closed form solution here ; but it seems to me that elementarily even english works ok in my hands, and in general the discussion will be more a matter of how you do your sampling than of anything else.
mp_en_viaje: just as here : i will bring forth "elided" from the pits of "wtf, that's not even english!!!" because the phrase needs and demands it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i cannot disagree. observed, tho, that even the utmost classical greeks were already spewing out loose neutrons, if you will, per model
asciilifeform: i was gonna share a crackpot model of the item but mp_en_viaje already hinted that he has same 1
mp_en_viaje: and damn, now i can't find the joke in the log anymore ;/ "don't worry, itll fall off once it dries"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:20:46 mp_en_viaje: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing the phonetis of hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli] these days, because "do we stil
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938894 << the way to gain such is the same way as gaining a lot of new children. if the russians stayed in berlin -- but for reals, not just one quickie rape passing throiugh, then modern eastern german'd conceivably have been as sluttily hybridized as phoenician-dri
asciilifeform: ( in the former, most famous case, 'Война и мiръ' turned into 'Война и мир' by decree of lenin, but the 'i' had already stopped being phonetic 200+y prior )
snsabot: Logged on 2018-01-07 09:46:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766211 << the classical j00z have the 'past is moar important' jumpers set to max: iirc they have a 'the further we get from moses, the moar of god-given wisdom is lost', i.e. nonrenewable resource.
asciilifeform: i can easily see where ideas like this may've come from
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938845 << ty mp_en_viaje , found culprit: a built-in idjicy in the pythonism that asciilifeform used to implement doublequotes. i'ma have to rewrite that mechanism.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 11:43:20 mircea_popescu: i specificalty recall describing this situation in munchen whereby i took cab driver all over bars, trying to find some with decent seating, didn't find any, at end dude was like "well, there's no more left on the list, you have to sit here" and i was like "bitch, i dun have to anything"
mp_en_viaje: i an' uses it to learn greek because reading trilema's changed his life for the better.
mp_en_viaje: occasional gems in the celentano vein (played straight, too!), like "The past year has been a year of failures for me. I failed to persuade any of my old friends about any of my strongly held beliefs concerning morality, politics, and economics. Not only did I fail to persuade them, I failed to maintain them as friends." ; otherwise apparently likes cha
BingoBoingo: I'm going to grab some sleep and see if it shakes out any recollection of where that may be hiding.
mp_en_viaje: there's the two liner above linked ; there's another one line in a discussion of another film. but i clearly remember taking the time to discuss this over paragraphs, i just don't remember where the fuck
mp_en_viaje: and the annoying part is that i can't apparently find now where i discussed in detail the relationship between "noir" as the form of cinematic expression and the sadness of abandoned counterfit-urban male youth (not REALLY urban because too new, like in new york).
BingoBoingo: I think it's coming through.
mp_en_viaje: actually, is my point here coming through or do i have to restate it ?
mp_en_viaje: if the world came to its senses, if i engaged tards on their own terms, if parents lived their lives such that they're comprehensible to children, if china correctly saw the incredible importance of ustarded delusions... then maybe they could write about it. but as it is ?!
BingoBoingo: Well, I plan to use this as the go to link in the future when US Pantsuits get busted while poor. Like this guy http://qntra.net/2019/09/kkkalifornia-pantsuitist-ed-buck-arrested-after-victim-escapes-lair/
a111: Logged on 2014-12-02 00:25 gernika: Well, first I have to learn Greek. Then Latin.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing the phonetis of hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli] these days, because "do we still have to DO th ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I find the scale of the China drama more humiliating for the US than anything else.
asciilifeform: i'ma fix it later in the week if no one else does.
asciilifeform: 'tape' knob i realized is unusable shortly after cut patch, it needs to be rewritten so as to give 'last N' , rather than using start/end index from the earlier raw-log knob
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938807 <-- this is srsly awesome, btw. but from what I see, link redirects to http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log#1938795 instead of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938795 ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 05:21:11 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934834 <-- why ty! well, I'll have to remove the fonts from the theme when I genesize thetarpit, because binary.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938438 <-- re. fonts, also see http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935895 ; long story short, for all the "open font" claims, there's no (text!) sources for those, so I just included them base64'd, to reflect the blog entirely as it is now. can safely ignore them/remove them from css and blog'll still work.
lobbes: as soon as vpatch is out, I will deploy on my own logger as well
asciilifeform: ( i.e. not live on air yet )
asciilifeform: this (and merged in fix of reconnector) i think covers in
snsabot: mats last seen in #asciilifeform on 2019-09-26 16:35:48: when i have something concrete to report it'll go into #t
snsabot: I am bot version 596907.
BingoBoingo: I have a strong suspicion if the investigation move to poking around the interior of listed structures the project could have turned into strictly evaluating for the lot footprints as the tower builders do
mp_en_viaje: i mean, even if someone gave you a free chevy vega -- it still wouldn't make economic sense to try and run it
mp_en_viaje: in short : not a single one of the items there look to me like something that'd be acceptable to carry on books even if given freely ; if yo uowned them i'd insist you sell them.
mp_en_viaje: i bet you the doors use the copper keys we discussed at some point yeaes ago
mp_en_viaje: #4 is exactly what i was saying above, 70s sovokism
mp_en_viaje: 2nd item i don't even know what to make of. seems someone literally poured some concrete, made a sort of post-wood outhouse. i dunno how it is even a house at all.
mp_en_viaje: i mean taking the list, right ? 1st item is literally a ruin ; that item has central wall damage from uncontrolled water infiltration. it would be condemned in europe.
mp_en_viaje: right. which... i can't imagine it will.
mp_en_viaje: i confess i am not at all impressed with the images on this particular score : they're all 1970s pure-sovoktech relics. it's directly visible, at least to the aculturated eye
mp_en_viaje: the salient points : a) half the prices ; b) three times the area ; c) one fifth or less the age. i expect ro 2000s construction, for all its warts, is still infinitely better than ~1970s uy construction technology
BingoBoingo: One nearby property I'd been watching since arrival finally sold after a flurry of listings once the price hit ~160,000USD. When I arrived it was listed around 200k. It had my attention for being a two bedroom house on an excellent corner with attached small commercial premises suitable for shingle hanging. Even after selling and becoming inhabited is still painted as a japanese restaurant.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i do expect it's going slowly down, yes.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938475 << The "conventional wisdom" passed around is that they haggle. I have not tested this myself.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 17:52:50 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, very nice work ; but this seems untenable on the face. i mean, even the san francisco "premium" bezzleworld's been losing 2-3-5% a year, each year, since 2015 or so. and 2s and 3s ealirer, 5s and above these days, 2019 may well close more like 7%
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938480 << This is what I was expecting. I regret not taking better notes up till now on the history of advertised prices, but there appears to be a steady march downwards. I publish a selection of sample properties again in three or six months.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 04:37:33 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938376 <-- hm. I suppose feedbot could do something along the lines of "talk (via PM) only to people who are already +v in the channels where bot is listening"; either way, there's currently no strict enforcement in place, I'll add something if/when it becomes necessary
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 19:17:45 BingoBoingo: Before investigating transit times it had probably been a good three months since I'd been inside a vehicle. Present tranportation costs consist of food calories above basal metabolic rate and a few cents a day in shoe/boot depreciation.
mp_en_viaje: so i don't expect uruguay market will ever find price. instead, the "properties" will just decay into the ground
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 19:02:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As of 2013 through a bilateral treaty the shelter part of the arrangement went out. From where I'm sitting it is hard to tell which way the Argentine winds will push
asciilifeform: i.e. the 'r/k' thing.
asciilifeform: right, asciilifeform's contention aint 'dafuq, this can't work' but 'well it clearly worx, i simply dun know precise mechanism'
mp_en_viaje: anyway -- this was very fashionable i nthe 70s. but there's pretty serious problems with hoefstadter's critique of conceptualized consciousness
mp_en_viaje: well, what i recall is that it pulls the cricket (nfi, maybe some others do larvae) by the antenna
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall the spiders. wasn't necessarily a sphex tho, there are other wasps that 'smarter' and will throw exception and stop looking for the caterpillar
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:52:01 mircea_popescu: for this reason any imanentization (ie, mapping of concepts into reality) will revolve around a "paradigm" / wilful blindness of some kind. "how could i not think of that" is always lulzy -- if you thought of everything your head would explode. and that's a literalism : if you somehow fit all states of its own emptiness into a glass it'd go boom.
mp_en_viaje: pretty sure i actually had a spex on trilema, had a nest fulla spiders
mp_en_viaje: it's this : "what i do doesn't work" "do something else then" "no." "well what ?" "it must."
asciilifeform: 'i'ma quit my job an' work as a wolf instead, will grow teeth as i practice' 'write back, say how it goes'
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, to me he seems just a figurehead / sacrificial goat of a bunch ofretards looking for the main switch
mp_en_viaje: admittedly i am not a master of medeival rus'
mp_en_viaje: i very much do not believe so.
asciilifeform: i recall this 1
mp_en_viaje: i suspect you might be confusing the polarities.
mp_en_viaje: there's even a trilema piece re this i'm kinda too lazy to dig out
mp_en_viaje: no, that's it. "turnipping doesn't work BUT I CHOOSE TO ANYWAY. BECAUSE IT MUST. BECAUSE I SAY SO. BECAUSE I AM GOD"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: seems to me that typical 'peasant delusion' is ~opposite~ , 'choice wat choice, i only know how to turnip'
asciilifeform: 'kulak' story is moar usually 'hey the derps keep showing up to borrow money, what, i shouldn't , why exactly? they wanna buy me a 5th horse, why not let'em'
mp_en_viaje: and every single kulak doesn't tell the same story, of "what choice did i have".
asciilifeform: for 'lively' son of peasant, as i understand 2 'radiodecay' paths, 1 to brigand, 1 to 'kulak' (of whom, seems , was also 'stable %' historically)
asciilifeform: but i think i see what mp_en_viaje meant
asciilifeform: on orc side there was attempt to institutionalize, 'ok you can be brigand right-there, on turk border' i.e. cossac
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: similarly to alabama, i.e. not far. cuz it wasn't as if they escaped on motorcycles , ha
asciilifeform: i dunno re e.g. germanies, but in ru there were catchers a la alabama etc
asciilifeform: i dunno that d00d who picks up a spear and decides 'go out with a bang' when starving, is necessarily 'idiot'
asciilifeform: i.e. you need lotsa pro exterminators, not cheap
asciilifeform: 'uber'ist is , last i knew, req'd to buy new auto erry 3y !
mp_en_viaje: eh, where's the trilema piece where i discuss the retarded whores doing "fantasy football" in their head, judging "how much X Y or Z '''should get'''" based on how much this one chick allegedly once got ?
asciilifeform: i would not have imagined that there are people who 'i'ma take the cab if its costs 15.00 but not 15.50' but apparently they must exist somewhere
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 18:51:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if can ride across city were 20bux here, i'dve sold my wheeled coffin long ago...
asciilifeform: hm i thought in germany turks were the 'pakis'
asciilifeform: i suppose the ex-sovok phf cabbies all finally died of old age, eh
mp_en_viaje: i used to own cars i mostly wasn't using, on the idea that "whatever, nothing wrong with owning it, can always set it to cabwork"
mp_en_viaje: i have faint memories of incredible real estate deals from decades ago, back when young man mp was completely uninterested.
mp_en_viaje: after current trip i intend to go south later this year, istanbul, syria, mebbe dip into iran, all the way to cairo
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, very nice work ; but this seems untenable on the face. i mean, even the san francisco "premium" bezzleworld's been losing 2-3-5% a year, each year, since 2015 or so. and 2s and 3s ealirer, 5s and above these days, 2019 may well close more like 7%
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can i persuade you to pop into #asciilifeform-test for 5min ? ( to see format of crosspost-indication-enabled bot that i'ma be rotating in tonight )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, it's for the irc task, I gave thimbronion the list of acceptable and banned stuff; he had this older gentoo on which he had said eudev and unsure about it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: depending on what's happened in last 2y since i last snapshotted gentoo, it ~could~ have spores in it
asciilifeform: i.e. the item that used to be 'udev' before the fungus got to it.
diana_coman: well, tbh I wouldn't consider it "accepts btc" if not; but yes, that's why I wrote it black on white.
diana_coman: once I get their response either way, I'll update the article; let's see.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I just fired up an email to them, as the article promisses
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 13:02:11 mircea_popescu: anyway : i'm willing to bet migration ~will~ be trivial ; and i am very curious to find out why not if indeed not
spyked: initial investigation shows that that indeed shouldn't be too painful, probably along the lines of wp_insert_post for each post. will still take some manual labour to verify that posts display well, but that's not burning, so I can do it as I go along with other work.
spyked: in other news, I'm in the process of standing up a mp-wp for thetarpit and migrating posts from the current platform there. will post a genesis for the current blog later today and then work out a plan for migration
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938376 <-- hm. I suppose feedbot could do something along the lines of "talk (via PM) only to people who are already +v in the channels where bot is listening"; either way, there's currently no strict enforcement in place, I'll add something if/when it becomes necessary