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mod6: so it's been suggested that we change 'trusted-nodes' to 'advertised republican nodes', which is fine with me. but the file that these live in is called 'trusted-nodes.html'. Since this is now linked in trilema 'how-to-participate', should we do a redirect to a new file, or just change the filename, or just change its contents?
mircea_popescu: as to the catch -- well for eg, they got obamacare here. if you're a resident you must enroll. and so on.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yeah, if you show them you own a 1mn bond paying 3% you're good.
asciilifeform: notbad.jpg spendolade for a bananistan
mircea_popescu: must prove 30k/year income for at least two years. so you know, buy a bond or w/e.
whaack: ppsk from my research in the matter apparently CR has a 90 day rule for most gringos...wherein you just have to step out of the country (for an hour) every 90 days. so you can do a Panama or Nicaragua day trip and get your passport stamped and come right back. Apparently you can get banned from returning to CR for 1-2 years now if you leave having stayed more than 90 days.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the first time i was here, bout 15 years ago, i came in on a tourist visa (with the idea of staying for a coupla weeks), ended up staying three years.
mircea_popescu: do you have a pgp key ?
ppsk: easy TEFL program too from what I hear, makes getting in and staying in a lot easier
ppsk: Ive seriously considered the universal plan for wealth, I was thinking central or south america is a good place to start over
ppsk: you spend a lot of time in latin america Mircea, or otherwise live there?
ppsk: it seems to be a significant point of contention in the realm of bitcoin
ppsk: by the way, does "if you go on a bitcoin fork, irrespective of which scammer proposes it, you will lose your bitcoins" still apply?
mircea_popescu: myeah. if you're born to be a hooker and the year is 1982, the vegas strip awaits. no ifs butts or taters. it dun matter if you dreamed of being a psychologist or a milliner as a little girl, either, that's what hobbies are for.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 20:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1639964 << one of the (~the~ ?) advantage of tmsr work for intelligent folk is that there isn't a braindamaged/choiceless manager in the loop going "i know it's stupid but it must be done".
asciilifeform: different sort of failure, is all. pyramid of cheops , whatever else it is, is not a broken reactor. it's a perfectly 'working' pyramid.
mircea_popescu: sour grape general, "oh we weren't aiming to conquer leningrad, we were just here for a stroll"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun give a shit what they';re shooting for.
asciilifeform: ain't that rather like observing that the stasi never made a breakthrough in audio tape tech ?
mircea_popescu: in fact the utter technological failure of that "warehouse the size of ny" was a major inspiration for teh republic.
asciilifeform: of course happens. hence the push for 'tap all lines all the time, petabyte of liquishit lives in db warehouse the size of nyc' etc -- cheaper than trying to make a corps of agents who won't smoke break while tapping
mircea_popescu: it pays to be a miner these days.
mircea_popescu: as a very gross estimation yes.
mircea_popescu: aanyway. yes, it's a fine manner to repatriate actual wealth (ie, btc) from the fucktards who traded their wives/daughters for money they shouldn'tr have had in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin itself has a 400% baked in maximum increase each period, but what practical difference does it make ? Force the attacker to keep hashing for an extra 8 or so hours ? Big whoop, what's eight hours buy you ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BCH has a lulzy twist, a difficulty blow off valve for this contingency. Insures terminal yo-yo'ing
whaack: well you don't get stuck without a block, but you get 2016 very quick blocks (that the turkey dollars club must have btc to prop up) and then 12h or w/e without a block
BingoBoingo: Even with BCH's "Emergency difficulty adjustment" (allegedly drops difficulty after X time without a block found)
BingoBoingo: lol, seems like someone doesn't know how the Altcoin problem works http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/#comment-108317
asciilifeform: ( if someone has idea for a useful alteration that doesn't requite 1000s loc, plox to write in. )
asciilifeform: i.e. accepts connections, processes mempool tx ( which, if said tx relies on a yet-unseen block, WILL be rejected, and will look exactly like the snippet mike_c posted, and in fact most of the debug log of a syncing node WILL consist of these )
asciilifeform: !~later tell mike_c http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-23#1702508 << this is NORMAL behaviour for a trb node. and see below re 'stalls' : ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Remember that when a leftist group gets COINTELPRO'd that it's because USG wants the shit they are selling
ben_vulpes: bringing a trb node up on whatever gentoo image scaleway has; 'pthread: command not found', log notes indicate patch necessary to cmake CheckIncludeFiles.cmake, investigation of which shows...no cmake on this box
ben_vulpes: today's american political wtf: "John Brown, of an anti-Trump group calling itself the Redneck Revolt, wore military fatigues and had an AK-47 rifle strapped to his chest as he and a half dozen others from the group stood about 30 feet behind the barricade for protesters. He said they were there to protect Trump opponents and stand up to fascism."
mike_c: how the fuck is litecoin still a thing
pete_dushenski to have a cold shower
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it predates trb by a bit at least, ya.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/20/bch-bcc-to-btc-brokerage/#footnote_0_19497 << updated max fee because today was a day of hard knock learnin', particularly around what btc actually goes for these days and how to dun read gud.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it was one of those "please to submit your version details" so... i did. can't recall if i actually clicked the "emergent consensus" button seriously or in jest, or if it was something that the hosts ticked, but it was definitely a test to see if they'd keep it up or not. looks like they have.
asciilifeform: ( if yer here, you too have a net pipe ! )
BingoBoingo: <whaack> so..does the USD monthly fee estimates imply it doesn't matter if you posses the metal? and if it doesn't matter, what are the hosting suggestions/guidelines? << A node is not a wallet, doesn't hurt to spread a few around.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world. << Negrodamus, i.e. 192.187.99.74 rents for less
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No idea what the concretes are beyond the admission that poverty is the condition of having a dysfunctional WoT
mod6: To all L1 who do not have a TRB node yet, please start this process now-ish, and let me know if you need a hand standing one up when ready.
mircea_popescu: i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world.
mod6: I guess I'd like to see all of L1 at least have a trb node at least sync'ing by years end. That's a good goal.
mod6: well, I think we should certainly encourage all to run a node. but yeah, maybe give it some time. my node is close, but 20k blocks behind currently.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html : are we making it bad form for l1 to not have a node up ? or waiting till next year ?
BingoBoingo: A discovery on Infiltration from the department of web backups that are not https://archive.is/xbdld
mod6: Ok all: trinque, ben_vulpes, asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, mircea_popescu : I have updated the trusted-nodes page, please take a look and verify that the information for your nodes is correct, thank you! http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 21:35 mircea_popescu: ftr, only a coupla of those five actually work. i can connect to 46.166.165.30 regularly but can not connect to eg 108.31.170.49
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702394 << it is zoolag, it is resyncing, and ( i assume everybody knows ) it is ~impossible to usefully connect to a trb node that is syncing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: trinque fwiw, a public node very rarely goes under 1-200 in my experience.
mod6: Occasionally when I'm trying to do a test or some such thing.
mircea_popescu: ftr, only a coupla of those five actually work. i can connect to 46.166.165.30 regularly but can not connect to eg 108.31.170.49 ☟︎
spyked: mircea_popescu, ACK. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lavNS/?raw=true (hope this works, haven't done in a while)
mircea_popescu: o and what a nice header day it is, too. or should i say moon.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 18:53 mircea_popescu: you should see the latina chicks btw. they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702369 <<< It's a Devil House!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_AR-VqQif8 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you should see the latina chicks btw. they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701966 << more importantly, and more subtly, it sells you on the notion that "dh is a prerequisite for handshakes", which happens to be false. for one thing, you can shake a friend's hand without the usg being involved. for another, gossipd does not use dh for handshake. in short, the usgtardian nonsense is always there to distract you while it implants simpler points deep into the reptile b ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in other life and times, i have a table out on a balcony overlooking the valley where i oft have breakfast. a week or so ago it gained a little wolf spider, he hunts on it. he's there every morning, and if i sit down to eat he leaves to hide in a crevice somewhere while the disturbance lasts.
mircea_popescu: the items are DANGEROUS, specifically because they exploit a fundamental weakness of the human brain. they're like guns to dodos, unperceived, deadly.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701957 << no, his objection actually is "tls ingredient sucks and recipe sucks whereas noise is not a recipe and it doesn't have ingredients". he is correclty rejecting what, contrary to elaborately crafted appearance, is a null cipher. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:47 asciilifeform: a 'standard' that consists of 'go and implement whatever you like' is not a standard in any meaningful sense.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701949 << very much a standard in the proper sense. standard should specify what must be specified, and NOT specifiy what needn't be specified. which is why all tmsr standards, or at least the ones i wrote, have this very prominent characteristic. "do it whichever way you do it". connects straight up with ye olde specificity of diddling. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this ever-meta-regression is a prominent feature of broken ideal systems, a good model for which is of course adolescentine "irony".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701941 << the dispute you ended up in is due to the fact that he recognizes a pattern you do not. whether you will come to recognize it in time or not is an open matter, and not required for the discussion. the point is, the way the empire resolves the problem of practical failure (tls is a piece of shit ; socialism is risible bullshit) is to take refuge in meta (here's a tls-framework! let' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: some kids who couldn't get laid got together and created... a framework for... other people getting laid.
mircea_popescu: consider fucking for a moment.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:31 valentinbuza: noise is a framework for creating protocols. you have the option to create NOISE_NULL_CIPHER_TOTAL_BS protocol which is totally different from NOISE_ANOTHER_SANE_CHOICE
r0nin-: becuase as i said if you take 2 100 bills and put them in a shelf they dont produce children.
r0nin-: interest rates are a abstract they can be whatever
mircea_popescu: socialism is 100% a 12yo girl noticing the other girl has tits and she doesn't. that's where socialism is born, in the 7th grade class.
r0nin-: socialism comes about as a reaction to deflation brought about by compounding
r0nin-: interest is not a natural occuring element
r0nin-: rome was a usury economy
r0nin-: a productive farm is a real saving
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but in the country where "everyone agreed" not to save, then savings depressing rate is a myth. much like in class where "the class community" has agreed not to do any homework, the punishment for missing homework is a myth.
r0nin-: interest rates are not a function of savings
asciilifeform: betcha r0nin- thinks usa has a 'mortgage crisis', not a fucktard crisis, even
mircea_popescu: im a man not a fucktard.
mircea_popescu: in a dozen or so cycles, france goes from main country in the world to footnote in geographical area.
mircea_popescu: then guillotine brings in a new normal in terms of social proofs, which allows the cycle to start over.
mircea_popescu: understand something : a new chicken is born on a farm. this chicken grows into either capital good or else consumption. THE SAME chicken.
r0nin-: deflation kills off consumption so you get a situation where theres literally no market to sell your produce in
r0nin-: becuase a rich miser is hoarding
r0nin-: how do you live beyond your means? all consumption is a result of present production
mircea_popescu: early soldier cultivated it and built a civilisation. late soldier attempted to live above his means to justify socially his internal ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: wealth concentrated in latifundias to protect itself from the inept mismanagement of soldiers who had become welfare cases over a century since marian's obamacare.
mircea_popescu: that was a defensive, not an agressive play.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- veneta kept up for a millenium. no SOCIALIST system in history can keep up with its socialism, which is why roman empire and usian empire both crapped.
r0nin-: mircea: why should everyone be impoverished so a few misers can stare at their shitty bonds?
mircea_popescu: tell them, too. it;'s either unemploymenty under 2% or beatings for a week straight each month.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "oh fuck, unemployment among < 25 yos is 50% ? hahaha! pick up all kids, beat them for a week solid, then see."
mircea_popescu: anyway, rome is not really on the map for the sartorial gentleman. and the only thing that puts italy on the map is marcha, go pick a few pairs of shoes.
asciilifeform: northkr could make a tourist killing, offer tailored vinylon suits
mod6: I should have gotten a few.
r0nin-: linen is a 1 wear though before it needs a press from the wrinkles