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asciilifeform: a++ effective, time-tested chumpatron in 'new world'
mircea_popescu: meh, apparently "pongo" google-denotes a dalmatian. it's the species name of a large, loud subhuman hominid.
asciilifeform: the latter laugh all the way to the bank. (didja ever see a 'mega-church' when toured usa ?)
asciilifeform: also observe how they dun do crusades, jihads, on washington, instead they tithe to buy mcmansion for self-proclaimed mcmoron popes in nebraska etc
mircea_popescu: 18th century "rationalist" paintings were very keen on the cadaver synod, but this is the pongo papacy.
mircea_popescu: you should look at their paratheological disputes sometime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you oughta see the 'theology' pushed by some of the moar 'advanced' ameri-church folx. where jizzus... spoke english
mircea_popescu: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1785123/ << i truly recommend any who hasn't seen this thing try for fifteen minutes. it's worth it just for the sheer wtf.
mircea_popescu: it's like watching reality tv by & for retards, "oh, look, it's another morning, will john the retard manage to tie his shoes his time ? we will be back after a word from our sponsor, Watch Paint Dry While Flies Fuck (tm)"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck am i going to be interested by a three-centuries-later, three-hundred-books-unread rehash of a ~minor~ ~peasant~ movement ?! what next, we're going to sit around wondering in fascination at pete_d's accomplishments ? hory shit, some guy got married and carefully didn't piss off the in-laws his whole life. NEVER HEAR THAT STORY BEFORE PLOX TELL ME MORE!
mircea_popescu: to write about divinity interestingly, one needs to be aware of a ~shitload~ more stuff than is available at oklahoma public library, is the thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because totally, history never happened, started over because "new" world.
mircea_popescu: and ~now~they go about like fucking morons, re-doing the 16th century german peasant movements.
mircea_popescu: when a decade later the american germans revolted against europe they called it "england" for no fucking reason whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: the dutch bought, moved over, started "new england". gave the same "english" crown their new world possessions.
mircea_popescu: ch get slaves to make ~and especially man~ ships cheaply.
mircea_popescu: consider the illustrative example of how the germans inhabiting north america ended up thinking they're "english" : the english were losing badly their war with the dutch, at the time the republic. so they decided -- the elite, that is -- to make the dutch an offer they couldn't refuse : behead the (catholic) king, import william, prince of orange-nassau as the new english king. thereby england gets a ruling class and the dut
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, the cn folx have own, and quite diff, set of cognitive bugs, quite unlike the anglos
asciilifeform: the twist is that actual chinese may or may not have this property.
mircea_popescu: this goes directly to my problem with chinese -- english is pretty much the closest thing to chinese known to white man.
asciilifeform: some benighted folx think this only applies to prog langs -- mno.
mircea_popescu: which is why i say, makes 0 fucking sense to have translated the torah.
mircea_popescu: english is ~thin~. it retain nothing. moron can say same words and gain ~nothing~ thereby.
mircea_popescu: because that's the fucking problem with english, it can not ~carry~. human languages have this property, that they retain in their own thick fibers, particles of the wisdom of speakers, to bestow them on the dumb neat round heads of repeaters.
mircea_popescu: and it ~is~ in english. but it is not the english of Jamie McMoron, slightly overweight ex-mechanic turned "pastor" in Michigan.
mircea_popescu: THAT half liner summarizes ~correctly~ the whole fucking nine paragraph thing i ended up stuck putting in above.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform moreover it makes a fucking difference WHO speaks english. which is a readily lost point. there's an episode in seinfeld (when george converts to "latvian" orthodoxy) including a soundbyte from old jewish woman with strong yidish accent, "when you die, you die. you don't go anywhere."
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 17:42 asciilifeform: was transparently http://pbfcomics.com/comics/now-showing/
mircea_popescu: sorta like that great cartoon you found, with "ww2"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i have, it's the kek of all time.
asciilifeform: ( the jesuits baked. and it's a riot. when jp was pried open in 19th c, the euros found some 'christians', promptly barfed -- the cleanup job shogunate did wasn't quite 100%.)
mircea_popescu: all the pretense of imperial brits aside, trying to build themselves an alt-english out of hammer-whacked chunks of latin and greek. because guess what, nobody today speaks 1770-level cultivated english. and certainly nobody among the self-help ikea-brand of "preachers" in the intellectually arid center of our colonies in the new world.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you should see the jp bible some time.
mircea_popescu: and let it be said, translating the torah ~in english~ was a fucking stupid idea. english is not a language that can ~carry~ such things.
asciilifeform: newton somehow pulled off the sitting on two chairs biz, but most folx aint newton
mircea_popescu: (and yes, /me also tuned out just about when the quotes started. for one thing because i couldn't give less of a shit about the english version of jewish texts, i can read the originals and i can't stand anglotardation)
mircea_popescu: and it so happens that god wank scores right there with "commercial communication" aka spam (another trope of fiction) on the scale of republican appreciation of fiction.
asciilifeform: the logical result of trying to physically move into a fictional palace is terry davis's train ride.
mircea_popescu: that's 1 trope, 2 fiction, 3 imagination, 4 noise, 5 phenomena. FIVE nodes down from the top node of all things, "the world".
mircea_popescu: god is ~just another trope~. like "the voyage", like "the teenage witch", like "vampires" or "magic horses" or "the island of buyan", god is just another trope. tropes are common places of fiction. fiction is a product of imagination. imagination is mildly-restrained psychogenic noise, which is a class of noise, like wetware thought or like fg output. which are phenomena, which is one half of the world (the other half being o
mircea_popescu: obviously the (male) teenager's temptation is to imagine his stupid shit is "above". but this is his problem, not his "intuition" or "wisdom" or w/e the fuck.
mircea_popescu: a minor and neglectable part at that.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing BEYOND the world. the things claimed to be so are always and without exception ~inferior~ not superior in the tree of things. one's fantasies of self-realisation, be they wet dreams about little miss rottencrotch two chairs down in chem class or "the rapture", are just so much teenage wank. it dun matter if the teenager's name is moses or daniel, their wank is not "above the world". it's part of the world, and
mircea_popescu: and, while at it : the aferations of "metaphysics", specifically regarding the matter in terms of "oh, mp is so lost in the world he can't see the things beyond the world" is so much infantile aferant bullshit. be it "robo-hitlers" or "gods" or whatever other nonsense, the important property of things "beyond" the world and "above" the world and "after" the world and "ultimate" and so on is that they are not.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:13 danielpbarron: that wouldn't be the worst thing
mircea_popescu: the exact same thing applies universally and throiughout. the world works a certain way, and it will continue to do so. if you build a blog on the strength of being interesting, you will destroy it with crap ; and if you build a reputation on being sane, you will destroy it with insanity. and so on. at no point is your "conviction" at issue (nor is it interesting, nor important). what's at issue is ~reality~, and reality does ☟︎
mircea_popescu: d in the process his life and himself. because no, as tempting as the theory is, humans can't generally manage to destroy their reputations but survive in body or mind.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 07:54 diana_coman: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: relax, no neg ratings yet. but if folx end up snoring for long enuff, i expect will tune out -> fwiw I already tuned out
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881342 << this, for the record, is exactly how things go. one can build himself a reputation as a director, on the strength (on the ~strength~!!!) of shit like pulp fiction, or reservoir dogs, or w/e the hell. but if the one then continues in the vein of bullshit, directing animation and whatnever kill bill nonsense, uma thurman's deformed toes, that someone will ~destroy~ his reputation, an ☝︎
mircea_popescu: aaand in this morn's fetlife lulz, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/W4OXR/?raw=true << "mainstream" girly runs into mainstream white culture.
asciilifeform: i'm sadly in a pile of saecular shit atm, and on top of that behind sched in ffa. so will be slow.
asciilifeform: ( apparently it isn't merely plug an' fughet, gotta config it to pretend to be crapple disk, and then will need coupla bolix partitions also.. )
asciilifeform: phf: relatedly, uncrated that 'scsi2sd' thing last night, will photo also when i get it connected
asciilifeform: phf: he answrd specifically re the 'macivory'. but i havent seen inside his treasurechest, so cannot say if he is mistaken and lost it
phf: asciilifeform: well, the papers have 3600 era pals
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 11:41 phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881345 << already replied that he got'em on paper, but in treasure chest on wrong coast ( he moved to west. ) i answered with offer to pay his flight to get'em plus what to make it worth his while. no answ to this just yet. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and the xray, wheni get it.
asciilifeform: phf: and yes i'ma post 25mpixel shots of top, bottlm, ditto for daughterboard, and full chip id with links to datashits
asciilifeform: 'sapper errs 1ce', could take another 10y to get a 2nd 'ivory' if i kill this one.
asciilifeform: gotta clear the antistatic vivisectiom table.
asciilifeform: phf: apologies for slow, but i havent, believe or not, popped the thing yet
phf: it's certainly a dodgy, bottom of the barrel choice of venue though.. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 05:21 trinque: yet another post of reddit quotes from danielpbarron. this is sad.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881331 << i think danielpbarron is pushing transcendental imperative; though, and as per some of the long ago threads on subject of traditional societies, i will guess it is mostly a pose on his part. his imperative doesn't align with that of all the rest of the republic members, so it is hard to relate to on substance, but in form i find it entertaining: what happens if you confront modern christian ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: i saw you posted a highres photo of macivory you found on the internet, but could you perhaps post a couple of nice photos of your current board, where one can see labels on chips and whatever text on the surface ☟︎
phf: there are 3600 era PAL sources in a form of scans, there might be some overlap between those and ivory. i doubt that's the case, but it's worth investigating
phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory ☟︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 17 hours and 5 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> didja ever try asking dks for PAL src's ?
phf: asciilifeform: you can leave messages for me in the log by just mentioning my name, i always see later's before i have a chance to speak
diana_coman: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: relax, no neg ratings yet. but if folx end up snoring for long enuff, i expect will tune out -> fwiw I already tuned out ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this thing looks exactrly like argentina "comicon". bunch of braindead orcs, wtf.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 06:57 mircea_popescu: this actually happens, you flip the pixels it "learned" and it sees the fridge and says cat.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron do you have a bunch of readers interested in the quotes you figure, or what's the thinking ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: relax, no neg ratings yet. but if folx end up snoring for long enuff, i expect will tune out
asciilifeform: d00d is well along in the process of moving into own head.
danielpbarron: if it's gonna get me a bunch of negative ratings i'd rather it get removed from the feed bot. i'd like to keep using deedbot and eulora
asciilifeform: trinque: sad indeed. i've been reading these, and looking for some trace of any relation whatsoever to tmsr-anyffin, and finding none
trinque: yet another post of reddit quotes from danielpbarron. this is sad. ☟︎
feedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/i-didnt-warn-you-for-the-scripture/ << Daniel P. Barron -- I didn't warn you for the scripture.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/12/17/the-expocannabis-an-executive-report/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- The Expocannabis An Executive Report
asciilifeform: in other lulz, there is apparently some published work on reversing a PAL via timing side-channel . ( the rub: it's in cn... )
BingoBoingo: And when you deposit, make sure to ping trinque so he checks the printers in his red room
cruciform: aha, thanks - is there a deedbot manual listing the commands to do so?
trinque: you will not be able to pay an invoice without first having done so.
trinque: cruciform: have you ever made a deposit with the bot?
cruciform: BingoBoingo, ie. !!pay-invoice BingoBoingo 1? I'm not getting any response after !!v longstring resulting from that
BingoBoingo: Ah, sender-nick in this context refers to the person issuing the invoice rather than invoking the !!pay-invoice command. It's a brevity-vs-ambiguity issue with the documentation
BingoBoingo: And that will get deedbot to execute the command.
cruciform: BingoBoingo, deedbot has returned a hexstring in response to !!pay-invoice command?
cruciform: BingoBoingo, will do, many thanks!
BingoBoingo: And please get your SSH public key to me
BingoBoingo: cruciform: Use !!received-invoices to see the invoice and then !!pay-invoice sender-nick invoice-number to settle the invoice
cruciform: BingoBoingo, hi! ready to send payment
asciilifeform wrote'im again today, politely asked, prolly dunhurt (no answ of yet tho)
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf didja ever try asking dks for PAL src's ?
Mocky: either that or "catalyzing an interconnected global tech ecosystem" lol
Mocky: subj company apparently has quite healthy growth rate. my guess is they are trying to undercut the bottom tier 'coder' segment
Mocky: in other 1024 chickens, http://archive.is/d8ypc#selection-445.0-577.9 "High-performing distributed engineering teams with African talent"