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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that i am carrying out presently
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thread concerned an experiment
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 18:15:49; mircea_popescu: dude speaking of "provability" bs. FSB are "provably secure" because it can be proven they're at least as hard as regular syndrome decoding. which is np complete. while we don't actually know if THAT is in fact resolvable in polynomial time or not, nevertheless... PROVEDLY SECURE!!11
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bsd is retarded from the linux pov (or, if you're a bsd aficionado, vice-versa)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 here's the problem with "Bitcoinos" : you will want it adapted for bitcoin needs, which necessarily means it won't be your tool of choice for doing almost anything else, which necessarily means maintaining it will be a pain in the ass. << agree. I think that what I'm getting at is maybe it ends up being like cisco ios.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not if it gangrenes the code with #ifdefs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have several.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mentioned on account of separate-box
adlai: mircea_popescu: ever heard of 4th gen ATMs? (not the kind that gets skimmed)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trying to wiggle out from under this is misguided imho.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So that I don't have to link fiat uni web sites.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is elementarily not so
asciilifeform: dusted off draft of something i had a while back, because mircea_popescu mentioned it and proclaimed that it isn't wholly retarded
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, follow assbot's bitly link
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am actually dealing with precisely this as we speak
adlai: pete_dushenski: more helpful to say where you encountered the deadlink :) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski do you mind ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/users/2016/01/vr_porn_is_here_does_virtual_sex_really_feel_real.html?curator=MediaREDEF <-- same 'amanda hess' chica as --> http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/18/you-need-an-ambien-to-sleep-because-you-bought-the-trappings-of-power-instead-of-the-real-thing/
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so basically we can't use our convenient makefiles to build the pressed source ; openbsd people gotta finagle their own build chain to get the same source to compile and link ? << and further more, they'll never have the same build process like we want.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, they are entirely different processes with just enough superficially in common to lead n00bz to conceptual perdition
mod6: however, if he and I work together, we could possibly get some patches in place that would check to see what the local environment is and if __BSD__, then apply, otherwise, do not.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 01:49:23; ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND the inclusion of teachers and educators with auditory and relative business skills pertaining to contemporary Black musical styles." << relative business skills? what are those
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain this to me ? << the idea is that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V to build inside of the rotor (a linux thing) - the source must be compatable with that. phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with this. ☝︎☟︎
funkenstein_: ben_vulpes thanks for lulz of the day :)
mircea_popescu: in the same news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/55410531c948328ed44c62d2ada58609/tumblr_myt1r9blgZ1suzvb1o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you laugh, but THAT was how we got xyz-studies in the '70s usa
adlai: ;;later tell mike_c candle charts outta sync, comment moderation constipation?
gribble: Chinese - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQvLS17wpr0>; Chinese Chicken Song - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unW7UYXSQNY>; How to cook Chicken and Mango Stri-fry recipe - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNiyMCq_KtI>
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] Money, Trust, and the Wild Wild Web (A socioeconomic history of SSL, or that green lock symbol in your browser) - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/23_money-trust-and-the-wild-wild-web-a-socioeconomic-history-of-ssl-or-that-green-lock-symbol-in-your-browser.html
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] Money, Trust, and the Wild Wild Web (A socioeconomic history of that SSL, or that green lock symbol in your browser) - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/23_money-trust-and-the-wild-wild-web-a-socioeconomic-history-of-that-ssl-or-that-green-lock-symbol-in-your-browser.html
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: i do believe that i understand now. << cool!
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i swear that i'm referencing something mircea_popescu said with that line, but i'll be damned if i can find the original.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude, yes. transient, no.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> me: 'the measure of a state's sovereignty and quality of life therein is the degree to which it can deny benefits to outsiders' << certainly works to "why is B,TMSR~ superior to USG and necessarily a replacement thereof". << to borrow a recent parallel from copypaste, couldn't the same be said of best korea?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nevertheless, bear in mind that there is a catastrophic difference between "derp needing" and "dude trying to contribute".
mircea_popescu: in somewhat related news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/ae3ff8150c429b9e246ef7088cf1d5a1/tumblr_mxjvf37IWX1symi8mo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> holy shit snsa listed in 2013 <<< well yes, was gonna be xmas remember!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc you were there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they removed the 3-round burst thing that was put in instead of auto in the '90s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: m16 was never 'only'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: full auto is for suppressive fire, just needs to go in the general direction of the enemy, nein ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: wut?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes workplace safety != this just like domestic faithfulness != chastity belts.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 20:35:44; ben_vulpes: punkman: they're fighting him because he kicked their ass on the licensing front
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 19:31:10; ben_vulpes: from:mircea_popescu media.tumblr.com
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 20:06:49; ben_vulpes: i discovered my photo booth archives from freshman year
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so you starting your own "drunken mousy middle chalss chick at college" tumblr ?
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 19:47:00; ben_vulpes: that starts up, shits 40gb of files to disk immediately while importing the classic 'iphoto' library, and has now been spinning on the import for 2 straight days now.
BingoBoingo: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--zRrZQ14Y--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/klka9zgkgsp0qhksprw8.jpg << US cops now doing the stupid "gansta grip"
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: see PM
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you will have to unearth the thing yourself
BingoBoingo: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/01/sympathy_for_the_devil_but_none_for_white_victims_of_violence.html#ixzz3y5ORkdBG
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: museum weapon
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: "deactivated" typically means barrel filled with lead and various parts molested to place it substantially far from being a weapon capable of operation. Reactivating mean replacing parts.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 18:12:25; mircea_popescu: anyway, my idea was originalyl that it's a collaborative tool par excellence. girls better support each other's back, lest they fall in.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 18:26:38; ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu may have his reasons for being so friendly and welcoming but bearing a deep suspicion of new faces in #b-a has saved me untold heartbreak (and no doubt riches, if i were to listen to robert viragh's ilk)
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 17:52:11; mircea_popescu: re BingoBoingo 's https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/808993/4006420 << check out the ugly head of puritanism rearing its head yet again. "if i don't enjoy anything in the world i will surely be spared doom!!1". nothing's quite as resilient as idiocy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://toolmonger.com/2012/09/14/more-sawstop-bs << randomly picked summary
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 14:31:04; mircea_popescu: well yes. 39 is the old ak/sks russian thing. nato has a bigger one.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 17:49:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382830 << not so. the first step of work is cleaning out the workspace. it is the work of truly inept management to impede on this "because it does not directly contribute to productivity"
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 19:47:00; ben_vulpes: that starts up, shits 40gb of files to disk immediately while importing the classic 'iphoto' library, and has now been spinning on the import for 2 straight days now.
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] The measure of a state is its ability to deny benefits to outsiders - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/23_the-measure-of-a-state-is-its-ability-to-deny-benefits-to-outsiders.html
ben_vulpes: from:mircea_popescu media.tumblr.com ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/853da9c157c3a3129d72bdf4892949fb/tumblr_mttcnr7D0x1sjgtlbo1_1280.jpg
thestringpuller: aha. I really should just learn to _actually_ cook. But I don't even know what foods I like.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you sound like that d00d in pulp fiction who doesn't believe in tipping.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the fluctuations come nowhere near making an actual palpable difference to anybody, ever.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you have any idea what housing cost in the 80s ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so at what point in this supposed cycle can i walk in and buy a livable HOUSE for 20k?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes everything inconvenient lasts in socialism.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that price floor is made of unobtainium and is going nowhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: jail
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was prolly intended for 2+ humanoids who don't fuck
ben_vulpes lets mircea_popescu say it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a hundy buys you a pf-capable box with 3 GB eth jacks
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can be. context dependent. above usage is just assumption that mircea_popescu can magic gurlz out of the air in bsas gutter, river plate shores, nile and probably inside the pyramids even
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this wouldn't be a result of tarantino-cultism would it ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought it was traditionally 'cunt with the rifling worn off'
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the polo thing you mean ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: met the horse people by the river yet?
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: there is a d00d who sold his car for horse at livestock auction where my gf lives.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: depends on locale
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not once.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaaactually my home town had very few cars
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: many folks use editors that automatically insert the doubleifdef-preventer thing
mircea_popescu: http://tweetnacl.cr.yp.to/20131229/tweetnacl.h << for my own education, why the fuck does a .h file in a 2 file project need to say #ifndef TWEETNACL_H #define TWEETNACL_H endif ?
asciilifeform: incidentally it blew my mind when ben_vulpes told us that some of his workers commute on bike
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> with just a touch of retraining he could be right at home in a bike advocacy group <
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: for my own benefit what do i understand about bike advocacy?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the kind that puts caltrops in front of trucks on a highway ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: possibly. but iirc that one was quite ready for the glue factory
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: where do you suppose they put spent ninjashotguns ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu may have his reasons for being so friendly and welcoming but bearing a deep suspicion of new faces in #b-a has saved me untold heartbreak (and no doubt riches, if i were to listen to robert viragh's ilk) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a spiffy article, 'variety speak' a while back.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i now envision your toilet-of-the-future as looking rather like a cray-II.
asciilifeform: 'let's add the library' is, in mircea_popescu's well-chosen wordz, 'the hole through which the night slides in'
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 22:16:42; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380266 << yes! and you can almost ~define~ 'sane system' this way. with the caveat that it can't be a non-orthogonal fudge like a program consisting of one line 'start_bitcoind()' nor anything in that spirit. ORTHOGONAL operators.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is still there because that is how the rpc thing works
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original thumbs-down for his patch was on account of bundling multiple-unlikes
punkman: mircea_popescu: start over, meaning make a new debug_sanity patch with more improvements (and without the gui snipping parts bundled together)