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a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:10 phf: the person that i was a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing that right now. a trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on a handshake basis for companies that need a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with a pretty windows gui
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [16:40:25] <phf> well, i do posgresql for money, the appeal of tmsr work is that i can do whatever the fuck, and though that means sometimes suboptimal results, there's a lot of merit in trying odd solutions
Framedragger: phf: nice. (nice caching setup, too). thanks for explaining - i'll want to set up some 'backup redundant history source' soon, i think..
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 15:01 phf: manual tit tickling
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466793 << do you have any automatic log sync set up now phf? just curious. (i'll prolly set up a different silent bot to be used as secondary log history source) ☝︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, trinque, phf, et al : http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-16358 << this here's the OTHER 'schematics published, amd g-series, sage plug' board. and this one has vga. and apparently is going out of print, being sold for half price in a few places.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> log. so at some point we were in "log according to btcbase" situation. with the recent move to multiple bots and more importantly multiple logs, we now have "log according to ..." model, which we can still though attempt to reconcile. once we move to gossip there can't even be a talk of single log. it's always "log according to whoever heard and relayed it" by design.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> asciilifeform: we started with a single canonical log though, where kako's testimony was implicitly the word of tmsr. there was some anathem/"A Canticle for Leibowitz" jokes about it, the log files were deeded, etc. while working on btcbase i realized that there can be no canonical log without arbitration, i.e. because of netsplits, lost messages, out of order, clock skews you need a single author
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:22:30] <asciilifeform> phf (and any other interested folk) if you have a bit of spare change, buy yourself a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's this comp that comes with schematics. then we can play.
ben_vulpes: ahem phf
asciilifeform: dug out because recent (phf thread) resurgence of 'maybe lisp on x86 in bios' thought.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [18:13:11] <phf> the type is called compact size (in bitcoin src parlance), it is simply an number. the reader reads a byte, decides what to do, ultimately returns ~the number~
asciilifeform: phf: not directly, no.
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, the ada folks got this right.
asciilifeform: phf: is yours posted somewhere ?
ben_vulpes: phf, yes, that's why i pass a 'byte-count' keyword argument to the read-binary method for script bytes
ben_vulpes: phf: yes? i...know.
ben_vulpes: phf: is that particular 'compact size' anything like other hand-rolled variable length integers in c-land?
ben_vulpes: phf: i do believe that i have to hold onto first-octet, if it's less than 253 it *is* the length.
ben_vulpes: phf: i am open, nay, desperate for alternatives
asciilifeform: phf: i dunno that binary-types offers a clean way of handling this type
mircea_popescu: phf im pretty sure that if db-on-a-chip happens, it'll be mysql first. much to the chagrin of sane people.
trinque: phf: iirc couple companies are bolting GPUs to postgres too
asciilifeform: phf: can buy by the crate.
asciilifeform: phf: this is actually a mature market in, e.g., gene sequence biz
asciilifeform: phf: i know this.
asciilifeform: phf: even worse!
gabriel_laddel: phf: did you see the screenshot of the CLIM gui I wrote around portage?
gabriel_laddel: phf: heh
mircea_popescu: phf in his defense, nobody has any fucking patience to fuck with computers. if anyone did, they wouldn't be learning how to program.
gabriel_laddel: phf: by selling them and paying other people to do it
mircea_popescu: phf not exactly back, but only in the narrow strict sense that we are not alone.
gabriel_laddel: phf: something as simple as "network some computers together with ethernet and observe the sexpr from one draw some stuff on another" should work 100% of the time and be clearly documented.
gabriel_laddel: phf: either I cannot read, or the man pages are inadequate.
asciilifeform: lel phf
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544441 << that's a very short day! also, the 2nd F doesn't make much sense, i was pointing something out to phf specifically. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf no point in being too ashamed of the early pubescence of the republic. if that's the best that can be done then that's the best that can be done, others may be able to improve on it which is welcome, but there's complete immunity from the very hollow somethingawful approach of "your tobacco uses pot lol". nobody cares, really, what something awful may say or think on any topic, chiefly because they're fundamentally idiots.
mircea_popescu: phf maybe im just behind the times. for all i know they use javascript internally all over blizzard now, whatevs.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-01 20:37 phf: trinque: rsync, tmux, asdf, really nothing smarter than that
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:22:30] <asciilifeform> phf (and any other interested folk) if you have a bit of spare change, buy yourself a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's this comp that comes with schematics. then we can play.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:02:22] <phf> i think main line lua is that way, very tight interpreter, and i guess it's fast enough for gaming (tm)(c)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:55:52] <phf> back when i knew the guy, i had a plan to stay in his house for a couple of weeks, wean him off his meds and depending on how that goes, give him acid to poke at his brain. he had some odd blindspots in his thinking that i wasn't sure if they were result of medication, or inherent. somehow multiple people were all up in arms against my plan, so i will never
mircea_popescu: phf ty!
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:51:09] <phf> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544418 << i thought psychosis was pretty common with bipolar, during the manic or depressive phases. at least in usg they prescribe antipsychotics to bipolars, though i'm not sure if that's always the case. supposedly you can take them on their own, because they have mood stabilizing effects
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 17:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544418 << i thought psychosis was pretty common with bipolar, during the manic or depressive phases. at least in usg they prescribe antipsychotics to bipolars, though i'm not sure if that's always the case. supposedly you can take them on their own, because they have mood stabilizing effects
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:24:27] <phf> the advantage of something like a vop in general, is that you can emit part of the assembly that you're trying to get working in isolation first, can emit it and call in realtime (i.e. in a repl), can have multiple versions of until you get it right, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 17:24 phf: the advantage of something like a vop in general, is that you can emit part of the assembly that you're trying to get working in isolation first, can emit it and call in realtime (i.e. in a repl), can have multiple versions of until you get it right, etc.
asciilifeform: phf (and any other interested folk) if you have a bit of spare change, buy yourself a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's this comp that comes with schematics. then we can play.
asciilifeform: and phf: i think you misunderstand - no 'subset but without escape hatch' or whatnot. just pure interpreter.
asciilifeform: phf: jmp but strictly in the interp's state machine.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 17:27 phf: (an example is https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/cmucl/cmucl/blob/master/src/compiler/x86/float-sse2.lisp#L1426 x87-set-floating-point-modes prelude with keywords says some handy things about what's being emitted to put it in context, but then (:generator 6 ...) is your regular asm, mov xor ...)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 21:07 mircea_popescu: phf to answer the "why asm" thing : because if at issue is to obtain a correct f(lisp) so as it produces the same asm as gcc(c) then we'd better have a good example of target "same asm". his approach is judicious.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 21:02 framedr_ghetto: phf: thanks for making a111 quote mkj log lines
mircea_popescu: phf to answer the "why asm" thing : because if at issue is to obtain a correct f(lisp) so as it produces the same asm as gcc(c) then we'd better have a good example of target "same asm". his approach is judicious. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 17:38 phf: why asm??
framedr_ghetto: phf: thanks for making a111 quote mkj log lines ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 17:03 phf is finally free to go get breakfast
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 09:23 adlai: phf: speaking of 2nd-personality-gods, have you/rfriend ever heard of jaynes' bicameral mind theory?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:37 phf: what about poetry
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 05:51 phf: i'll bring it back probably tonight. i've got tea pot, i've got hookah, i've got a fuck you to "no smoking in building" complaints
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 05:24 phf: one of the reasons i went with cmucl originally is because it has known tight memory behavior and sbcl dev equally famous stance that "memory is cheap", which, for the case of keeping log in memory, was discouraging
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 04:46 phf: adlai: same code and data that was taking up ~~500mb with cmucl blew up lispworks to 4gb, and now blowing up sbcl to 1gb, which results in heap exhaustion errors, despite the fact that there's still extra heap available
mircea_popescu: phf more fucking importantly, it contains no hidden bits. such as "how did you build the square"
asciilifeform: the spittoon, phf, is in one strand.
asciilifeform: well let's work the example phf
asciilifeform: phf: if you'd like to try to, e.g., bitcoin, on a 10M nic, be my guest.
asciilifeform: phf: what target ?
asciilifeform: phf: nope. it wedges.
asciilifeform: phf: the thing needs real-time interrupt handling just to init.
asciilifeform: phf: unfortunately is is ~not~ possible to do without, e.g., disk dma.
asciilifeform: phf: it is possible to make a useful machine with 0 video (serves x11 over nic).
asciilifeform: phf: we don't even have sane vga on ~linux~ yet.
asciilifeform: phf: linux wasn't trying to multiprocessorate every arithmetic instruction etc.
mircea_popescu: you documented any of these somewhere, so phf doesn't need to do himself ?
mircea_popescu: phf this is not at all waht i meant.
mircea_popescu: phf imagine if you will, the beauty of a system where "threads" make no sense in the first place.
mircea_popescu: phf has it.
asciilifeform: phf: why take my word for it, thing was published, eons ago, read.
asciilifeform: phf: a MB of hand-written asm, and reliance on x86-32isms, e.g., segmentation, is 'married'.
mircea_popescu: phf there is no unix.
asciilifeform: i'ma let phf finish before i return to the iron bit.
mircea_popescu: phf so then what the fuck is the problem ?
mircea_popescu: phf i'm not so sure that's what i said though.
mircea_popescu: phf that some boys tried to talk to girls and didn't get anywhere is scarcely an argument.
mircea_popescu: phf management, if half competent, could have spared you the need for hindsight. this is evidently wrong.
asciilifeform: phf: except they are on close terms with the bottle and fall over regularly.
mircea_popescu: phf this is ~nonsense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shut up and work more. phf ok. so ?
mircea_popescu: phf what i don't understand is this bizarre notion that c has some sort of priviledged relation with asm, which is and remains the only hardware language.
asciilifeform: phf: speaking of, i dug out my sbcl stash, oldest one appears to be 1.0.37 (loaded Mar 29 2010)
adlai: phf: speaking of 2nd-personality-gods, have you/rfriend ever heard of jaynes' bicameral mind theory?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
a111: Logged on 2015-08-29 04:24 phf: biggest disappointment of my schools years, turns out that "flea balloon" idea doesn't quite work
deedbot: adlai updated rating of phf from 2 to 3 << another one bots the lisp
adlai: !!rate phf 3 another one bots the lisp
adlai: !!rate phf another one bots the lisp
adlai: wd phf
trinque: phf: I dunno that anyone claims the content of a poem exists