asciilifeform: ( transistor massage is not 'discovery' )

asciilifeform: there's been no significant discoveries, in 80s or 90s. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: i dun give much of a fuck what 'reddit we' do or do not.

asciilifeform: hey and 'we have plumbing' but 'we' still shit between two bricks on the ground. in rural redit^H^H^Hindia that is

asciilifeform: or what existed on the bus, and where, also unknown

asciilifeform: the bolix arch itself, was never publicly documented. even something like the instruction set, is not fully known publicly

asciilifeform: worse is that we have nfi what the actual work of the fep ( other than in very approximate terms ) was

asciilifeform: caaddr: it was ordinary genera, but came with a dec alpha emulator for the machine

asciilifeform: caaddr: torrent was an install disk. with partial source.

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: erything else thinks it has the right to do whatever .

asciilifeform: the only actual standard in whole fucking machine is the mains cord. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: typical unixism

asciilifeform: !!up caaddr

asciilifeform: *confirmed

asciilifeform: comfirmed , mine is same , phf

asciilifeform: !#s weitek

asciilifeform: the problem with attempting to resurrect 1980s 'big iron' designs, however, is the unavailability of various formerly common ( and quite painful to emulate items ), e.g.,

asciilifeform: caaddr: if it's gone from the net, i'll stand up a mirror ( as soon as i have where to; currently between isps )

asciilifeform: it does not add up to a working machine.

asciilifeform: it should still be floating around somewhere, coupla GB

asciilifeform: caaddr: some yrs ago, i convinced marshall to publish all he had

asciilifeform: lmi iirc never was able to build even one unit of their non-cadr machine

asciilifeform: well they sold cadr clone

asciilifeform: caaddr: they shipped massive box of discretes .

asciilifeform: caaddr: afaik lmi never actually fabbed a chip at all

asciilifeform: phf: aha

asciilifeform: caaddr: afaik not fully published ( in the can build fab immediately sense ) either

asciilifeform: and that reason is mit. and mallery.

asciilifeform: there's a reason why no sane ic layout, photoprocessing, etc tools exist today, and whole stack is a TB+ of winblowz liquishit for which foundries get charged $mils

asciilifeform: what i meant is, betcha the daedalus tool ended up mit'd and 'licensed' out for money etc . and ended up going down with the bolix ship.

asciilifeform: nope, the bolix ns

asciilifeform: i suspect that daedalus became ns .

asciilifeform: aah

asciilifeform: i.e. what exactly was censored from it

asciilifeform: phf: you gotta put this in proper essay form sometime ☟︎

asciilifeform: and we're talking vintage of 1973 or so

asciilifeform: caaddr: that was the latest, afaik, fully reversed from die ( publicly, that is ) ic

asciilifeform: learning anything from dies is veeery expensive, see the microscopy thread.

asciilifeform: whole thing iirc was published.

asciilifeform: i dunno why you would need the dies, to learn from

asciilifeform: prolly hanging on some senile bureucrat's wall

asciilifeform: scheme79 was a prototype, did not even have an alu!

asciilifeform: ffa should not even be necessary, on sane iron

asciilifeform: forget carry flag, even : native bignum. ☟︎

asciilifeform: caaddr: re earlier, i'll say this : if a sane os and sane compiler cannot be ~small~ on a given iron, the iron design is ipso facto defective.

asciilifeform: correct.

asciilifeform: i.e. massive turd , sufficiently complex as to be as opaque as any binturd

asciilifeform: problem is that you always end up with something resembling gcc

asciilifeform: if you want to actually do it, rather than simply pretend, that is

asciilifeform: caaddr: this is much harder than it appears

asciilifeform: in adaland this is standard.

asciilifeform: caaddr: this is why you disasm and audit the bin before deploying to the rocket ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( it won't build without an existing working copy of their gnat, exactly like the gcc fork's )

asciilifeform: caaddr: adacore's src is also posted

asciilifeform: ALL gnats require an existing gnat binary in order to build.

asciilifeform: caaddr: and gcc-ada had reproducible build ?! where?

asciilifeform: this would seem to create the unpleasant situation of having just 1 adatron. but it is not clear to me that there ever were 2. there was only adacore and broken-adacore (aka gcc-gnat) ☟︎

asciilifeform: if anyone has a counter-argument, now is the time. otherwise ch9 will contain a 'don't use gcc-gnat' preface.

asciilifeform: it exists strictly so that people cannot easily build just about any nontrivial ada proggy.

asciilifeform: and also i think at this point i will declare gpl-gnat to be a work of wreckers. it has zero upsides over adacore's, and a million breakages , large and small. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: ( there is no such thing as 'gnat-4' )

asciilifeform: caaddr: and what ~exact~ ver of gnat ?

asciilifeform: caaddr: what os are you using ?

asciilifeform: aaaha that's it

asciilifeform: or hm, nm, wrong thread,

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-02#1083376 << illustration of building without said fix ☝︎

asciilifeform: pretty sure it was the end of a lengthy thread

asciilifeform: but aside from that , i do not know the seekrit of why it was an issue

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-21#1773685 << if this is about the 'integer retardation' issue, the 1 thing it quite definitively had 0 to do with , is gcc5 : which did not exist in the era of 0.5.3 , nor did it exist in my stator or rotor setups ☝︎

asciilifeform: any way i read that sentence, it makes for dark thoughts

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-21#1773676 << lol, experiencepointsism ☝︎

asciilifeform: !#seen Framedragger

asciilifeform: then swallowed by the current.

asciilifeform: iirc he came up for air but only brief gurgle came out of him

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-21#1773642 << i gotta reveal the terrible troof here : nobody's here into soap bubble penetration testing either... nor tissue paper, nor plastic bags. ☝︎

asciilifeform: iirc even sha512sum

asciilifeform: trinque: ubuntu, this wonderful thing, is missing ~all utils of any use

asciilifeform: alternatively, echo "99999999" > /proc/sys/fs/file-max

asciilifeform: err,

asciilifeform: alternatively, cat 99999999 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max

asciilifeform: it's worthless, it only wastes time

asciilifeform: hanbot: take the ubuntu, and walk it behind the shed, and shoot it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: np-complete

asciilifeform: aa

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773825 << i gotta bite this bait -- how does mircea_popescu picture this item ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: i can see how with , e.g., phuctor key export. but wordpress ?

asciilifeform: how'd this situation come about, even

asciilifeform: hanbot: ulimit -n 99999999

asciilifeform has yet to achieve this marvel

asciilifeform: Too many open files << gold medal eggog

asciilifeform: placebocin!111

asciilifeform: it was hilarious, i went into a couplea pharmacies, saw ~nuffin that was recognizable as actual pharma, mostly various gerovitals, groundhog fats, snake oils (literally)

asciilifeform in 'museum of komunnist konsoomer' leafed through ancient ro mags, and ran into the 'gerovital' lulgem

asciilifeform: ( mongoose ? )

asciilifeform: is it made from mangust?!

asciilifeform: lolwaat

asciilifeform: ( hey recall those old ru forums with integrals ! )